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sorry bt the first 50 are not BVR capable
KLJ-7 range is around 100km

bt as SD-10B is already tested on FC-1 in china.so integrated the SD-10B on the JFT's in service is not a big deal.

the KLJ-7 does support SD-10 bt integration is not done yet.no news from officials as of yet nor any video

They are all BVR capable and please stop confusing yourself and others on non issues.
 
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^^^^ If its to be the final block then no stealthier nose???????????

Mate stealthier nose is same as putting a bra on women body to cover the whole damn thing :)

there is no partial stealth, either it is stealth as or just not. that nose thing can be part of some sort of research thats all.
 
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Sorry but i think you havent been to PAC new website. radar and some avionics are produced in house under joint development and some avionics are indigeniuos as well.
Pakistan Aeronautical Complex

So according to it, the radars used possibly are:

The KLJ-7 is an X-band airborne fire-control radar (FCR) uses a mechanically-steered slotted array antenna. The KLJ-7 has multiple modes, both beyond-visual-range (BVR) and close-in air-to-air modes, ground surveillance modes and a robust anti-jamming capability. The radar can reportedly manage up to 40 targets, monitor up to 10 of them in track-while-scan (TWS) mode and simultaneously fire on two BVR targets.

■Frequency : X-band
■A mechanically-steered slotted array antenna
■14 Operational Modes
■Range more than 100 km
■Total targets tracked: 10 in TWS (Track-While-Scan) mode
■Reliability:
a.MTBF (Mean Time Between Failure): 220 hours
b.MTTR (Mean Time To Recovery): 0.5 hours
■Weight less than 120 kg
■Composition
a.Antenna Unit
b.Receiver Unit
c.Transmitter Unit
d.Processor Unit
e.Power Supply Unit
f.Auxiliary Transmitter Unit
 
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Mate stealthier nose is same as putting a bra on women body to cover the whole damn thing :)

there is no partial stealth, either it is stealth as or just not. that nose thing can be part of some sort of research thats all.

Well said but I was hoping for the stealthier nose to be an indication of further enhancements to reduce the frontal RCS. There is a thing called frontal aspect stealth e.g. The silent eagle and the silent hornet (Some are even speculating the F-35 not being an all aspect stealth bird).
 
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ONLY BIGGER BOMBSHELL would be , if we are told J10B will also be provided on Urgent basis 40 planes
 
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Salam Guys what is Block 58 of JF-17 and what features it will have will it have BVR
 
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can anybody tell me how much jf-17 we have deployed till yet ......... and how much falcons we have and f-16 and other fighter jet's quantity?
 
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Why is China giving us 50 JF-17. We are producing them in Pakistan.

Why isn't China giving us 50 J-10 or J-11 fighters?

If we are really China's Israel, at least give us the type of Arms that USA gives Israel.

This is no reason to get excited. We are not getting anything that adds fangs to our forces. J-10 or J-11 would have been a game changer for Pakistan but not 50 JF-17's.
 
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Hi, I wanted to respond to the previous post by Mr. Mercenary. It was stated "why is China only giving JF-17s". Well Pakistan is in no position to dictate anything. It is financially broke and not to be to harsh, "beggars cannot be chosers, they take what is given".

In addition the specifications of the J-10B/FC-20 are still being finalized, so it would make no sense for the PAF to try get the early model J-10A. Kindly please refer to the link below:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-aviation/3218-j-10-fc-20-mrca-265.html

The current J-11s have to much Russian content in them, this is including intellectual property. As such, China cannot give or even sell them to Pakistan, without the Russians raising a major stink.
 
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Mercenary

It is rather complicated -- J11 or J10B are entire weapons systems, it's not just the aircraft -- an entire maintenance, training infrastructure has to be created and maintained, the aircraft present a variety of capabilities and tactics and doctrines have to be developed - the PAF is inducted a variety of new equipment and does not have the capability to continue to induct systems without fully integrating them.
 
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Why is China giving us 50 JF-17. We are producing them in Pakistan.

Why isn't China giving us 50 J-10 or J-11 fighters?

If we are really China's Israel, at least give us the type of Arms that USA gives Israel.

This is no reason to get excited. We are not getting anything that adds fangs to our forces. J-10 or J-11 would have been a game changer for Pakistan but not 50 JF-17's.

Be thankful for what is being given. Be glad there is someone willing to help despite all the drama and shens we are in. Be grateful :)
 
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Be thankful for what is being given. Be glad there is someone willing to help despite all the drama and shens we are in. Be grateful :)

will any reply to me my questions are is Block 58 which is being give to us is it equipped with BVR and will it have better avionics
 
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China Gives Pakistan 50 Fighter Jets
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/20/world/asia/20pakistan.html?_r=1

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — China has agreed to immediately provide 50 JF-17 fighter jets to Pakistan, a major outcome of a visit by Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani to Beijing this week, Pakistani officials said Thursday.

China and Pakistan have jointly produced the JF-17 aircraft, but the new planes would be equipped with more sophisticated avionics, the officials said. The latest jet fighters would be paid for by China, they said.

Go China Go !!!
 
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