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China sets R&D targets for 2020

These are patents filed in each individual country's patent office. It is generally known that patents filed in China are usually of low quality.

Rather, have a look at number of patents filed under WIPO for international protection. These are directly handled by WIPO and are more reliable. In that metric China is number 3. (As far as I remember.)

1. Yes, that guy called that Chinese patents, while actually, they are applications sent to some offices ( in China SIPO )
2. In China they also count utility model, which is low quality than real patent in total of applications.
3. The massive and rapid growth applications by Chinese residents only happened in China, while not in oversea offices. It reflects the govt incentives policy promotes Chinese enterpreneurs register their IP have some effects.
And too many factories or trading companies submitted what they consider theirs to have some advantages if the quarelling happens.
 
Two PDF users from two technology-primitive countries are laughing at China's technology progress in recent years. That is the funniest thing I read on PDF today.

And that's why we post these articles. To mess with their minds and will their hearts with jealousy :dance3:

The haters need to see China's progress.
 
1. Yes, that guy called that Chinese patents, while actually, they are applications sent to some offices ( in China SIPO )

Just read post #5 again, figure A7 "actually" and explicitly says they are "patent applications for top five offices", China tops in this count.

In the same post, figure A17 "actually" and explicitly says "patent applications (filed in residence and broad) for top 20 origins", Applicants from China (837,817) filed the largest number of equivalent patent applications in 2014, followed by the US (509,521) and Japan (465,971). China has been the largest origin of patent applications since
2012 when it overtook Japan. Furthermore, the gap between China and the other origins has increased considerably over the past three years.

Were you blind, or you simply can't read?

2. In China they also count utility model, which is low quality than real patent in total of applications.

When does "quality" comes into play in utility model? Despite the requirements for acquiring a utility model are less stringent than for patents, the requirement of "novelty" is always to be met. In practice, protection for utility models is often sought for innovations of a rather incremental character which may not meet the patentability criteria. Utility models are considered particularly suited for SME's that make minor improvements to, and adaptations of, existing products. Utility models are primarily used for mechanical innovations.

You don't know that other than China, many other countries do this? What is your "quality" crap when these countries are doing the same: Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Belize, Brazil, Bolivia, Bulgaria, Chile, China (including Hong Kong and Macau), Colombia, Costa Rica, Czech Republic, Denmark, Ecuador, Egypt, Estonia, Ethiopia, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Guatemala, Honduras, Hungary, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Malaysia, Mexico, OAPI, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Korea, Republic of Moldova, Russian Federation, Slovakia, Spain, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Trinidad & Tobago, Turkey, Ukraine, Uruguay and Uzbekistan?

3. The massive and rapid growth applications by Chinese residents only happened in China, while not in oversea offices. It reflects the govt incentives policy promotes Chinese enterpreneurs register their IP have some effects.
And too many factories or trading companies submitted what they consider theirs to have some advantages if the quarelling happens.

Bull crap, or show me data to backup your idiotic claims?

What "only happen in China"? Inventors traditionally file at their national offices and then subsequently abroad, China is fast expanding overseas following path of US and Japan:
  • China’s applications filed abroad have increased markedly – from around 15,300 in 2010 to 36,700 in 2014
  • Share of Chinese applicants at the USPTO increased from 3.2% in 2010 to 6.1% in 2014.
  • The Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT) offers applicants an advantageous route for seeking patent protection internationally as an alternative to using the Paris Convention for the Protection of Industrial Property to pursue patent rights in different countries. Together, China and the US accounted for 87% of the total annual growth in PCT filings, which saw some 215,000 applications in total in 2014. The US was the primary country of origin for PCT filers in 2014, with 61,476 applications and 7% growth. Japan followed with 42,380 applications, 3.2% down on 2013. Applicants from China filed 25,548 applications – an 18.7% annual increase.
 
You pretend those as patent, not applications for utility model and patent
See the R&D results in numbers, by 2014 China has already overtaken US, Japan, SK and EU in patent. These five dominates global patent by representing 82% of the world.

Top five countries are China, US, Japan, SK, Germany.
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http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/rgs_dissertations/RGSD300/RGSD347/RAND_RGSD347.pdf

Just read post #5 again, figure A7 "actually" and explicitly says they are "patent applications for top five offices", China tops in this count.

In the same post, figure A17 "actually" and explicitly says "patent applications (filed in residence and broad) for top 20 origins", Applicants from China (837,817) filed the largest number of equivalent patent applications in 2014, followed by the US (509,521) and Japan (465,971). China has been the largest origin of patent applications since
2012 when it overtook Japan. Furthermore, the gap between China and the other origins has increased considerably over the past three years.

Were you blind, or you simply can't read?



When does "quality" comes into play in utility model? Despite the requirements for acquiring a utility model are less stringent than for patents, the requirement of "novelty" is always to be met. In practice, protection for utility models is often sought for innovations of a rather incremental character which may not meet the patentability criteria. Utility models are considered particularly suited for SME's that make minor improvements to, and adaptations of, existing products. Utility models are primarily used for mechanical innovations.

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You pretend those as patent, not applications for utility model and patent

What "pretend", even patent filings could be better term than patent applications, or equivalent patent applications is more complete, or patent families, why you like patent applications?

After all, you can't read is that right? You cant read your beloved term "patent applications top five offices" in the TITLE of the chart I posted in #5, is that right?
 
What "pretend", even patent filings could be better term than patent applications, or equivalent patent applications is more complete, or patent families, why you like patent applications?

After all, you can't read is that right? You cant read your beloved term "patent applications top five offices" in the TITLE of the chart I posted in #5, is that right?

Let check what is the word you used in your own writing "patent" or "application" ?
you can't use "patent" instead of "applications" because they're different.

I am the one who ask you that question, you showed the charts of applications but keep refered it to prove that China patents.

In number, over 1,000,000 applications of China resident, including 400,000 application for patents ( inventions ), 600,000 applications for utility model.
And granted one is 100,000 for inventions ( out of 400,000 applications ) while granted 350,000 for utility models ( out of 600,000 )

Non-residents didn't apply so many utility models like that, but apply for inventions ( patents )

So the proportion of real inventions by Chinese resident is about 1/10
100,000 ( out of 1,000,000 applications )
 
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What "pretend", even patent filings could be better term than patent applications, or equivalent patent applications is more complete, or patent families, why you like patent applications?

After all, you can't read is that right? You cant read your beloved term "patent applications top five offices" in the TITLE of the chart I posted in #5, is that right?

He has absolutely no interest in facts, he is a troll. He does it deliberately to troll.

He keeps getting banned but never gets a permanent ban. Moderators need to bring permanent bans and block the IP address.

Just report him to @Hu Songshan
 
He has absolutely no interest in facts, he is a troll. He does it deliberately to troll.

He keeps getting banned but never gets a permanent ban. Moderators need to bring permanent bans and block the IP address.

Just report him to @Hu Songshan
They can easily fake IP and create tens of accounts.
@waz Someone has used such simple technique to prove to moderators he was not a gang of Nihonjin group.
See my signature.
 
He has absolutely no interest in facts, he is a troll. He does it deliberately to troll.

He keeps getting banned but never gets a permanent ban. Moderators need to bring permanent bans and block the IP address.
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You keep insulting me, but not provide the figures to prove me wrong.
why?
I'm the one who argue with argument
 
These are patents filed in each individual country's patent office. It is generally known that patents filed in China are usually of low quality.

Rather, have a look at number of patents filed under WIPO for international protection. These are directly handled by WIPO and are more reliable. In that metric China is number 3. (As far as I remember.)
Please Google, China is the number of patent application No. 1.
 
Let check what is the word you used in your own writing "patent" or "application" ?
you can't use "patent" instead of "applications" because they're different.
I am the one who ask you that question, you showed the charts of applications but keep refered it to prove that China patents.

Of course I used "patent". Talking about difference, do you know the proper term should be "patent filings" instead of "patent applications", especially for an IP office, why you choose the other, you are illiterate or what? Talking about difference, is it not "equivalent patent applications" or "patent families" to be complete term, why you choose a simplified phrase? You tried to pretend or something? After all, you are semi-blind, i.e. selective reading, is it not that I put up one single opening sentence, followed by a comprehensive chart with big TITLE in the chart? You are illiterate to tell the difference between A7 or A8 and other indicators in a WIPO report, is that right?

In number, over 1,000,000 applications of China resident, including 400,000 application for patents ( inventions ), 600,000 applications for utility model.

In 2014, China SIPO received 928177 patent applications, only 13.7% by non-resident, Check WIPO 2015 Edition, indicator A8 on page 38.

In 2014, China SIPO received 868511 utility model applications, not 600000.
Check WIPO 2015 Edition, indicator A45 on page 60.

Why are you faking numbers? You are semi-blind, illiterate, and now lier?
 
Of course I used "patent". Talking about difference, do you know the proper term should be "patent filings" instead of "patent applications", especially for an IP office, why you choose the other, you are illiterate or what? Talking about difference, is it not "equivalent patent applications" or "patent families" to be complete term, why you choose a simplified phrase? You tried to pretend or something? After all, you are semi-blind, i.e. selective reading, is it not that I put up one single opening sentence, followed by a comprehensive chart with big TITLE in the chart? You are illiterate to tell the difference between A7 or A8 and other indicators in a WIPO report, is that right?



In 2014, China SIPO received 928177 patent applications, only 13.7% by non-resident, Check WIPO 2015 Edition, indicator A8 on page 38.

In 2014, China SIPO received 868511 utility model applications, not 600000.
Check WIPO 2015 Edition, indicator A45 on page 60.

Why are you faking numbers? You are semi-blind, illiterate, and now lier?

How you say about my statement "never count patent applications as quantity of patents".
My example maybe not as your figures because I explained by my figures in different time 2011 with the attached charts... as example what happen if we dig in the proportion of different types applications.
Why? because if you use 2014-2015 application statistics, you would never know how many of those applications turn out to be granted patents. As patents granting need upto few years to validate.
 
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What "pretend", even patent filings could be better term than patent applications, or equivalent patent applications is more complete, or patent families, why you like patent applications?

After all, you can't read is that right? You cant read your beloved term "patent applications top five offices" in the TITLE of the chart I posted in #5, is that right?
I can't believe you were wasting time....
Sometime, people are beyond education and enlightenment.
 
They can easily fake IP and create tens of accounts.
@waz Someone has used such simple technique to prove to moderators he was not a gang of Nihonjin group.
See my signature.

If he engages in discourse that is fine bro.
 

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