China Sees Islamic State Inching Closer to Home

[TheNoob]

LOL.
Then they clearly dont know what happens when you hit a nest.
PLA will bomb their existance to oblivion.

 

[Echo_419]

Chinese media lights up after a Hong Kong weekly says IS aims to expand into Xinjiang.

China Sees Islamic State Inching Closer to Home

They've been grabbing headlines nearly everywhere else, but the jihadis of northern Iraq haven't been getting much play in China. But a threat by the Islamic State (IS) of revenge against countries, including China, for seizing what IS calls "Muslim rights" appears to have changed all that. The comments were made in early July, but the news didn't jump the language barrier from Arabic into Mandarin until August 8, when Phoenix Weekly, a Hong Kong-based newsmagazine widely distributed in China, made the IS revenge threats against China its cover story. Since then, the article has been widely syndicated on Chinese news websites and has gained traction on social media as well. Ordinary Chinese who may have felt distant from the carnage now feel it creeping closer to home.

The glossy cover of the Phoenix issue features a picture of masked gun-toting jihadis advancing through a desert landscape. The piece inside sounds the alarm over a July 4 speech in Mosul, Iraq, by IS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi in which he urged Muslims around the world to pledge their allegiance to him. It quotes Baghdadi saying that "Muslim rights are forcibly seized in China, India, Palestine" and more than a dozen other countries and regions. "Your brothers all over the world are waiting for your rescue, and are anticipating your brigades," Baghdadi told his followers. Phoenix noted that China was mentioned first on Baghdadi's list. (The article also includes a map that some news reports have said shows the vast territory IS plans to occupy in the next five years, which appears to include a significant portion of Xinjiang. Although the authenticity of the map, which was widely shared on English-language social media sites in early July, has been questioned, the Phoenix piece reports it as fact.)

Online, Chinese are both agitated and bemused. One Chinese reader wrote on the social media site Weibo: "This is good. It offends all five of the hooligans on the UN Security Council" -- that is, China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States -- which means the IS jihadis "are going to be roadkill." Anotherresponded to a photo of Baghdadi: "Looking at this bearded pervert makes me sick. Hurry up and incinerate this kind of trash, and send him to enjoy his 72 virgins in heaven." A third wrote that ISIS seemed to have "a death wish," but that people should be grateful because the jihadist group was giving Beijing "a reasoned and evidence-based opportunity to crack down on terrorist activities."

This may constitute a welcome opening for Chinese authorities. China has been fighting a low-level separatist insurgency of its own in Xinjiang for decades and worries that foreign Islamic groups are infiltrating the region, emboldening the simmering independence movement. Uighur exile groups say China's government overstates its terrorism problem and falsely paints protests that turn into riots as premeditated terror attacks. In any case, Beijing is likely alarmed by IS's criticism of its treatment of the Muslim Uighurs and the group's alleged plan to seize Xinjiang, no matter how far-fetched the idea might be. But just how actively authorities will deal with any IS threat remains to be seen.

Beijing has consistently tried to keep itself removed from the political and military crises roiling Iraq, even as China has poured billions of dollars into Iraqi oil, enough that about 10 percent of its oil imports come from the Middle Eastern country. China's most decisive action since ISIS's surge has been to evacuate 10,000 Chinese working in Iraq. On July 8, Chinese special envoy Wu Sike met with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and pledged anti-terror support, but added that Beijing would fully respect the country's sovereignty. When Wu returned to Beijing he briefed reporters about the trip on July 29, telling them that China was a victim of terror with roots in Syria and Iraq. "Solving the conflicts in Iraq and Syria will benefit China and the entire world," he said.

But Beijing's reaction to U.S. airstrikes in Iraq betrays its conflicted allegiances. China usually bristles at or condemns U.S. intervention in global hot spots and has opposed U.S. sanctions against Sudan, Syria, Russia, and Iran. But the interests of Washington and Beijing are unusually closely aligned when it comes to Iraq. On August 8, the official Xinhua News Agency quoted a Foreign Ministry spokesperson as saying that China was "keeping an open mind" about operations that would "help maintain security and stability" in Iraq. The statement came in response to a request for comment on U.S. President Barack Obama'sannouncement that the United States would carry out airstrikes against insurgents in northern Iraq. Wang Chong, a researcher at Charhar Institute, a public diplomacy think tank in Beijing, wrote on Weibo that he "firmly supported" the U.S. crackdown on IS. Wang added that the United States "ought to send ground troops to wipe out those brutal terrorists" and that if there was a need, "China could also send troops to help and provide training."

That's possible -- within limits. Zhu Weilie, director of the Middle East Studies Institute at Shanghai International Studies University, toldthe state-run Global Times on July 29 that China believes the United Nations should lead anti-terror operations in the Middle East. "China will be more actively involved in these efforts but will never be as involved in Middle East affairs as the United States," he said.

When we & Pakistan join SCO,this should be given priority,we maybe laughing at these guys but they mean business & should be crushed while they are weak

 

[pher]

These so called tough meaures will increase the problem

This is not the first time for us to face that kind of problem. we have enough experience and knowhow to deal with them.There is concensus among our people that there will be zero tolerance and compromise.

For anyone who like to bring trouble for us, we will make sure those people suffer far more.

 

[Europa]

Holy, this is even less than 5 minutes since your last response, you got banned, why?

i still can't believe someone can have such guts to openly support them

lol, banned? u live in china? just run, ur house will be SWATed tonight.

he was still online a few minutes ago....

look @Dr Lee is online again

 

[55100864]

he was still online a few minutes ago....

look @Dr Lee is online again

i guess PLA really need to improve its intel gathering.hope they will trace his IP and SWAT his home.

 

[Europa]

i guess PLA really need to improve its intel gathering.hope they will trace his IP and SWAT his home.

and hes online again, i doubt he is posting from china or may be from some foreign embassy in china , i want to know who this man is. what's his ethnicity/race? he is not here to troll... he is on a mission it seems , what is his message? he does not sound anti china (only if its not a tactic) , or is he a chinese of certain belief for which he doesn't consider himself chinese national as he believes in some other form of nationality , i want to know many things from him but alas that access denied problem with this website prevented me... btw, he appears polite and educated, not ignorant what kind of doctor he is, physician, surgeon ... intriguing indeed

in another post he replied when told to be non chinese

Thanks for correcting me. I am not Chinese .

is it an emotional sentimental statement? is it indicative of his chinese origin ?

@Edison Chen

do you think the 'thanks' came out of sentiment as you charged him directly?

 

[55100864]

and hes online again, i doubt he is posting from china or may be from some foreign embassy in china , i want to know who this man is. what's his ethnicity/race? he is not here to troll... he is on a mission it seems , what is his message? he does not sound anti china (only if its not a tactic) , or is he a chinese of certain belief for which he doesn't consider himself chinese national as he believes in some other form of nationality , i want to know many things from him but alas that access denied problem with this website prevented me... btw, he appears polite and educated, not ignorant what kind of doctor he is, physician, surgeon ... intriguing indeed

in another post he replied when told to be non chinese

he stated that he is a Pakistani live in china in another thread, i also think his is not a chinese national, even the chinese muslim minorities are actually little into islamic stuffs unlike this hard core islamist. i was annoyed by his ISIS propaganda under our flag, and he has a false expectation about our policy toward those terrorists, although he hold a pretty objective view about our ethnic policy.
btw, are u really a german? sorry because PDF is getting pretty crazy now as u may know , what makes u so interested in east asian politics?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Funny! Who the hell tells you Han Chinese were deprived of education for 400 years? Are you a noob? Yes, they conquered China step by step since South Song Dynasty for hundreds of years, but as a united dynasty and a central government, they only existed for 97 years, the shortest one. Even Qing, the Manchurians, lingered over in a steadily worsening condition for nearly 268 years, and they adpoted confucism and allowed national examination system to select officials.

You are not Chinese, please correct your flag at once.

Thanks for correcting me. I am not Chinese .

LOL, looks like we caught another one.

Why do these crazy people insist on using our flag?

 

[Genesis]

I am neither against nor support IS. However, the way China handles this could prove to be the catalyst we need.

America wants support for Middle East, Obama won't go into Iraq alone, if he wants to succeed in Middle East, he needs an actual ally. We are the Nixon to his China. Right now due to our expanding interests and power, we would be the perfect one for this mission.

If China can get America to force us into Iraq, it would open the door for real combat experience, a protected one, meaning we can let America take the lead, but obviously still taking a significant part. Not a trial by fire, but a assisted mission. This would vastly decrease our casualties and let our first time be as gentle as possible.

Our first war is going to happen regardless, why not let it be a well planned and well calculated one, rather than just thrust into the flames and see what happens.

It's also a great way to show our humanitarian efforts, to be seen as a saviour nation.

The most important aspect is for the US to back off China, they can no longer say part of what they are saying like we are an irresponsible nation, if we partake in the same mission.

But this is a very rough idea.

 

[dray]

Intellect and common sense doesn't support that IS want to redraw China's territorial map.

Who told you that they work with Intellect and common sense?

 

[Kyle Sun]

They are doing exactly what you said.

How do you know that ? You see it or what ?

 

[dray]

LOL, looks like we caught another one.

Why do these crazy people insist on using our flag?

Who were the other ones? From where they were?

 

[大山为]

This is not the first time for us to face that kind of problem. we have enough experience and knowhow to deal with them.There is concensus among our people that there will be zero tolerance and compromise.

For anyone who like to bring trouble for us, we will make sure those people suffer far more.

I think this is fake propaganda . ISIS leadership is not that crazy to challenge PLA.

 

[Europa]

he stated that he is a Pakistani live in china in another thread, i also think his is not a chinese national, even the chinese muslim minorities are actually little into islamic stuffs unlike this hard core islamist. i was annoyed by his ISIS propaganda under our flag, and he has a false expectation about our policy toward those terrorists, although he hold a pretty objective view about our ethnic policy.
btw, are u really a german? sorry because PDF is getting pretty crazy now as u may know , what makes u so interested in east asian politics?

i was just stunned by the degree of his audacity to make that militancy flag as his avatar. it was like open declaration of war
i am interested in global politics, especially of east asia, europe, south asia and south east asia, i have little knowledge about african and latin american politics, so somewhere i go ignorant and elsewhere knowledgeable. it depends. well, i have some personal connection to east asia but please allow me to keep that my own private matter, i don't discuss my family matters in public. i always try to humbly learn from them, i am serious. i don't claim to be some eaton educated elite, i am a simple humble guy who seeks to learn from others,

during the past two years, this forum witnessed the participation of overseas chinese diaspora, nobody would have imagined that so many chinese netizens would come with in-depth knowledge and linguistic skills, @Raphael is certainly one of them and there are many intelligent others. just look at their argumentation, ornamentation of sentences, articulation of their views, the use of vocabulary, grammar --- i am sure they would easily outperform even a native english speakers from usa. there were once some people who often downplayed chinese intellect just because of the lack of good english, now i may ask them dare engage this group of chinese, they will be intellectually outperformed even before the discursive argumentation comes to the conclusion
and why not? i am sure these guys like raphael must have spent huge amount of money for their education abroad, they invested their time, labor and money to grow talent and they should be using their talent for their motherland for which they exist today

I think this is fake propaganda . ISIS leadership is not that crazy to challenge PLA.

let them say it first, they haven't yet

 

[Europa]

I think this is fake propaganda . ISIS leadership is not that crazy to challenge PLA.

wee were not done and so here we go again, how does you belief define a 'nation' and 'nation state' ?