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China Second lowest in Asia-Pacific in English Proficiency.

In Macau, I heard only Cantonese and Portuguese are used officially and Standard Mandarin is not allowed. Is that same in Hongkong.

LOL where did you hear that? I hear Mandarin being spoken all the time in HK and Macau.

Wealthy mainlanders as well as politicians come down to HK and Macau all the time for vacations. And of course they speak Mandarin, and we respond in Mandarin or Cantonese (or both), they can usually understand the latter well enough.

Mandarin and Cantonese are both dialects of the same language, which is Chinese.
 
LOL where did you hear that? I hear Mandarin being spoken all the time in HK and Macau.

Wealthy mainlanders as well as politicians come down to HK and Macau all the time for vacations. And of course they speak Mandarin, and we respond in Mandarin or Cantonese (or both), they can usually understand the latter well enough.

The Kirov, the Macauan guy was saying that standard Mandarin is not used officially in Macau, only Cantonese and Portuguese is allowed. :cheesy:
 
The Kirov, the Macauan guy was saying that standard Mandarin is not used officially in Macau, only Cantonese and Portuguese is allowed. :cheesy:

LOL I don't think he said that.

Half the gamblers in Macau's Casinos are Mandarin-speakers.

No language is "not allowed". You can speak Russian here if you like, though finding someone to understand it might be harder.
 
LOL I don't think he said that.

Half the gamblers in Macau's Casinos are Mandarin-speakers.

No language is "not allowed". You can speak Russian here if you like, though finding someone to understand it might be harder.

I was talking about official use.
 
It sounds more like-ching chang chung to me.:P

That’s because your ear and brain are still too "barbaric".

:rofl:

I heard traditional Chinese music is on the verge of extinction, Chinese mostly love to listen western music in Chinese language.

If only following West reports, you are condemned to be further misled.


Because both languages are used by Central Government. I always see your ministers or businessmen with a translator.

Because the Chinese ministers care more about ideas than the size of the mouth: let others (the translator in this case) to do mouth job, and the ministers do the brain job.

When the Chinese saw the West Communism was good, they used brain to utilize it to make China strong. When they see the limits of some communism aspects, they change. That is why Chinese system outperforms India copy/paste system in the past 60 years.


High IQ Chinese cannot comprehend Latin characters :agree: :tdown: ...

You have serious cognitive defects in your brain.

I don’t do 1+1=2 math anymore, because I have advanced way beyond that. The same reason for the Chinese language not to be latinized.. if you know some Chinese history.

There were no few extremists who would like to Latinize Chinese language, but failed. Those extremists are now more in S Korea, Japan, and more so in Vietnam, rendering Vietnam a history-less country in the sense that their youth don’t know their history in its origin but manipulated.

India also doesn’t have a complete history in record but a fragmented one. In addition to the fact that India region was more broken apart than unified in history, Latinized language is an important factor.

Indeed Chinese high IQ has made it, whereas low IQ doesn’t.


I saw a BBC documentary that Chinese are massively trying to master English. :laugh:


Somebody has to do mouth job while in the business.


In Macau, I heard only Cantonese and Portuguese are used officially and Standard Mandarin is not allowed. Is that same in Hongkong. Yes China was not colonised because your monarchy was so weak and allowed them to plunder China.
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Funny raving! When you become too anti-China, you become too clownish and illogical.


you sound as if you India kingdoms were so strong as to let British colonize and enslave. :lol:



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Back to the topic,

Unlike the thoroughly brainwashed country in S Asia which people are even so proud of communicating with English other than their own languages, the Chinese don’t need any foreign language to make understood among themselves. They use their language invented by their wise ancestors with profound PROUD: a unique language that can wrap up so much information of so long duration for over so long time; a brilliant language that only a brilliant civilization can produce.

No wonder China is the only country in the world with the longest continuity of uninterrupted civilization with well recorded history back to thousands of years. One reason is its language that carries the information many thousands years ago.

I am glad that the Chinese from every corner of the country can debate with the same unique language, write use the same unique language – the Chinese should have got the Nobel Prize for literature long time ago.

I disapprove that most Chinese primary schools now teach English compulsively but not just limited to some school.

China: you should strive for the lowest position in Asia! That is your honor! :tup:
 
@gpit a Chinese told me that no Chinese like Chinese traditional/folk music or dance, Chinese government is spending a lot to preserve it but people like only western tunes. In India we amalgated our Indian music, musical instruments and dances with Bollywood which is still highly popular among both Indians and foreigners
 
Learning Chinese Pays Dividends: Of Characters and Cognition

“Yi, er, san . . .” A Chinese language student counts each stroke while writing the Chinese character for “big”, 大. This seems like a simple process, but new evidence suggests that studying Chinese and learning to write Chinese characters may train a whole array of cognitive abilities not utilized by the study of other languages and writing systems.

Most students these days take Chinese because of its perceived value as a language of commerce and business, or “the language of the future.” However, the academic and cognitive benefits of learning Chinese characters are another good reason why learning Chinese can be a valuable experience for students.

Studying Chinese stimulates different parts of the brain because Chinese is very different than English in sound, tone, and script. A BBC News article, “Chinese ‘Takes More Brain Power’” reported on a study conducted by researchers from the Wellcome Trust in the UK which found that “people who speak Mandarin Chinese use both temporal lobes of their brain to understand the language.” This is very different than English-language speakers who use only the left temporal lobe (June, 2003). The difference is evident because speakers of Chinese “use intonation to distinguish between completely different meanings of particular words.”

In addition to the unique tonal distinctions of Chinese, the practice of handwriting, especially of Chinese characters, will aid the development of motor skills, learning shapes and letters, the visual identification of graphics, and will keep the mind sharp. A recent Wall Street Journal article, “How Hand Writing Trains the Brain,” reported on research from Indiana University which confirmed the importance of handwriting to cognitive development (October, 2010). Through the use of Magnetic Resonance Imaging, researchers found that neural activity in children who practiced printing by hand was more enhanced and “adult-like” than those who just looked at letters. Compared with English, which is mostly linear and written from left to right, Chinese characters are more complex in structure and writing involves strokes in all four directions: up, down, left, and right. The sequential movement of the fingers and hand to form a character activates neural activity in the working, thinking, and spatial memory of the brain of the learners.

Evidence also indicates that there is a correlation between the learning of Chinese and math skills. Researchers from New Zealand observed that “Asian children educated in their own languages appear to have gained a greater understanding of mathematical concepts than English speaking children,” and suggested that this is because during the natural acquisition process of Chinese, the student is learning and reinforcing basic mathematical concepts (White et al, 2001). Math skills are embedded in character writing because it involves skills such as counting, grouping, ordering, and identifying similarities and differences.

A study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences on how native Chinese and English speakers process numbers echoes the results of the New Zealand researchers and drew the similar conclusion that learning Chinese affects math ability (Tang et al. 2006). The group of Chinese researchers found that “native Chinese and English speakers treat numbers with different cortical parts of the brain” and these results indicated that “different language systems, such as Chinese and English, can shape the way non-language-related content is processed”.

While the research on the relationship between the learning of Chinese and cognition is not yet conclusive or comprehensive, there is good evidence to suggest that learning Chinese tones and characters represents an added dimension to language learning. Moreover, the Chinese writing system itself is truly unique. All other written languages currently in use worldwide descend from a common ancestor – a writing system developed in the Mesopotamian world several thousand years ago. Chinese characters represent an entirely different tradition of writing. Though admittedly time consuming, the investment in learning how to read and write Chinese characters can clearly pay dividends – not just for one’s bank account, but also for one’s brain.

References

Gwendolyn Bounds, “How Handwriting Trains the Brain” The Wall Street Journal, October 5, 2010.

Louise White, John Allan-Rae & Darell Fisher. 2001. "Asian Success in our schools – A Challenge?." CLESOL PRESENTATION (accessed on February 11, 2011)

“Chinese ‘takes more brain power’” BBC News, June 30, 2001. BBC NEWS | Health | Chinese 'takes more brainpower' (accessed on February 22, 2011)

Yiyuan Tang, Wutian Zhang, Kewei Chen, Shigang Feng, Ye Ji, Junxian Shen, Eric M. Reiman, & Yijun Liu “Arithmetic processing in the brain shaped by cultures PNAS 2006 103 (28) 10775-10780; published ahead of print June 30, 2006. Arithmetic processing in the brain shaped by cultures (accessed on February22, 2011)

Learning Chinese Pays Dividends: Of Characters and Cognition | Asia Society

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There is a reason for higher IQ among Chinese, other than just material richness.
 
that's a good news
Most people should stop wasting time learning it and focus on their major field
 
The fact remains English is world's most spoken language, why not learn it instead of looking for a translator.

Totally Wrong, The real fact: CHINESE Mandarin is world's most spoken language



CHINESE is the world's most widely spoken language


Population

Chinese (937,132,000)
Spanish (332,000,000)
English (322,000,000)
Bengali (189,000,000)
Hindi/Urdu (182,000,000)
Arabic* (174,950,000)
Portuguese (170,000,000)
Russian (170,000,000)
Japanese (125,000,000)
German (98,000,000)
French* (79,572,000

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Most Widely Spoken Languages

More and more western people learning Chinese too

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/144912-mandarin-worlds-most-widely-spoken-language.html
 
Proud to know that India is
ranked 14 in the world.I am sure we will be in the category of high proficiency in English by next year.
You need a score of 57.5 for high category,India's score is 57.49.

Thats what i hate the most about Indian people they are very impressed about goras culture wht they wear, eat,style and speak u people are so impressed by those people and copy in every expect of life even u people forget u forget ur elders culture and even hate to implement on yourself . We in Pakistan know english but prefer to talk on urdu with our own people bcoz we love our language we belive our lifestyle and culture better than any off in the world, we know our roots. But sad Indians are following more like American lifestyle.

On topic ... So what Chinese are doing well without english so who cares is it compulsary to follow english? Well only some fools cn say that....
 
that's a good news
Most people should stop wasting time learning it and focus on their major field

unfornunately, you've already wasted your time... damn we missed the "einstein" in you since you wasted your time learning English.

another "einstein with chinese characteristics" lost ..... :laugh:
 
Totally Wrong, The real fact: CHINESE Mandarin is world's most spoken language
Population

Chinese (937,132,000)
Spanish (332,000,000)
English (322,000,000)
Bengali (189,000,000)
Hindi/Urdu (182,000,000)
Arabic* (174,950,000)
Portuguese (170,000,000)
Russian (170,000,000)
Japanese (125,000,000)
German (98,000,000)
French* (79,572,000


Chinese Mandarin is most spoken language as mother tongue otherwise English is most spoken and widely used language in the world. But the number of speaker of Hindi/Urdu is wrong, Hindi is alone spoken by about 500 million people in India as mother tongue.
 
Majority of educated Indians don't know how to speak English. :enjoy:
So how do the educated Indians communicate each other?And what about the uneducated?

English don't have official status in India, there are 22 official languages but not English. And proudness is about knowing more than one language. The fact remains English is world's most spoken language, why not learn it instead of looking for a translator.
It seems that you lack common sense.
1.The principal official language of the Republic of India is Standard Hindi , while English is the secondary official language.
2.Chinese(mandarin) is the most spoken language in the world not English.
you should google first and then make your conclusions.

Majority of educated Indians don't know how to speak English. :enjoy:
So how do the educated Indians communicate each other?And what about the uneducated?

English don't have official status in India, there are 22 official languages but not English. And proudness is about knowing more than one language. The fact remains English is world's most spoken language, why not learn it instead of looking for a translator.
It seems that you lack common sense.
1.The principal official language of the Republic of India is Standard Hindi , while English is the secondary official language.
2.Chinese(mandarin) is the most spoken language in the world not English.
you should google first and then make your conclusions.

Majority of educated Indians don't know how to speak English. :enjoy:
So how do the educated Indians communicate each other?And what about the uneducated?

English don't have official status in India, there are 22 official languages but not English. And proudness is about knowing more than one language. The fact remains English is world's most spoken language, why not learn it instead of looking for a translator.
It seems that you lack common sense.
1.The principal official language of the Republic of India is Standard Hindi , while English is the secondary official language.
2.Chinese(mandarin) is the most spoken language in the world not English.
you should google first and then make your conclusions.
 
why I cant edit my post?It's strange to have a lots of duplications in #90.
 
So how do the educated Indians communicate each other?And what about the uneducated?

Both Hindi and English but only few people can speak English in India. Most of the people only learn workable Hindi or sometime uses 2-3 languages to communicate. In India we have deep love for our mother tongues that's why we have 22 official languages.

It seems that you lack common sense.
1.The principal official language of the Republic of India is Standard Hindi , while English is the secondary official language.

English don't have official language status in India although it is used by Central government.

2.Chinese(mandarin) is the most spoken language in the world not English.
you should google first and then make your conclusions.

Can you prove this.
 

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