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China called on the U.S. to reconsider pulling out of a three-decade-old arms control treaty with Russia, saying the move would generate "multiple negative effects."

President Donald Trump said Saturday he planned to pull out of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, known as INT, claiming that Moscow had breached the agreement on intermediate-range conventional and nuclear weapons. The New York Times reported the move was in part to enable the U.S. to counter a Chinese arms buildup in the Pacific.

"I want to stress that it is completely wrong to use China as an excuse for pulling out of the treaty," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told reporters Monday in Beijing. "We hope relevant countries can cherish the hard-won achievements over the years, prudently and properly handle issues related to the treaty through dialogue and consultation, and think twice about withdrawing from the treaty."

Without the restrictions of the 1987 treaty, China has had a free hand developing and deploying intermediate-range nuclear missiles of its own, including missiles designed to take out U.S. aircraft carriers patrolling the waters of the Western Pacific. Exiting the accord would free the U.S. to deploy new weapons in the Indo-Pacific to respond to China's attempt to erode its post-World War II dominance.

"China hasn't signed the agreement and has been producing mid-range missiles and so-called carrier killers to asymmetrically increase the costs of an American-led naval containment strategy," said Stephen Nagy, a senior associate professor at the International Christian University in Tokyo. "The U.S. is likely withdrawing to send a message to Beijing that the U.S. can and will produce mid-range nuclear weapons that can erode away China's existing asymmetric advantage."


The prospect of a U.S. weapons buildup would underscore concern in Beijing that the U.S. is intent on thwarting China's rise, be it via a trade war or a systematic program of military containment. Since Trump's election U.S.-China relations have deteriorated on virtually every front, from trade to cyber-security to geopolitical flash points like Taiwan and the South China Sea.

Under the 1987 agreement, the U.S. and the former Soviet Union committed to eliminate all ground-based nuclear and conventional missiles with a range between 500 to 5,550 kilometers (310 to 3,420 miles).


China's collection of intermediate missiles -- including the recently developed DF-26s -- form the backbone of its offensive capabilities in the Asia Pacific and are designed to hit targets along the strategic "first and second island chains," according to Zhang Baohui, director of the Centre for Asian Pacific Studies at Lingnan University in Hong Kong.

The "first island chain" is a string of archipelagos stretching from Japan, past Taiwan to the Philippines -- all U.S. security partners. The "second island chain" runs southward past Guam toward Papua New Guinea. Guam hosts a major U.S. naval base for the Pacific Ocean.

"A China factor in the U.S. decision to withdraw from the treaty is highly plausible," Zhang said. "It is China, not Russia, that is possessing an ever-increasing number of medium and intermediate range missiles."

As it would take time to build new nuclear-tipped missiles, the U.S. was preparing to modify existing weapons, including its non-nuclear Tomahawk missiles, and was likely to deploy them first in Asia, the New York Times reported, citing officials who have been briefed on the issue. The weapons may be based in Japan, or at the U.S. naval base in Guam where it would face little political opposition, the Times reported.

"China would have little choice but to spend more on the military -- read less on the economy -- or come to the negotiating table to come to an agreement about mid-range systems," said Nagy. "This would have the effect of removing their existing anti-access area denial strategy."

https://www.chron.com/news/article/China-says-US-should-think-twice-about-leaving-13326286.php

Hilarious response from the Chinese....a country that's not even a signatory of the treaty!

China is terrified. They know full well this changes the game in the Western Pacific.
 
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There is no reason for the US to remain in the treaty given Russia's violations thereof with its Iskander-K and 9M729 missiles plus China's buildup of theater-range systems. Secondly, this would push the Chinese to overspend on systems that it knows it cannot match the United States in terms of quantity and quality.
 
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There is no reason for the US to remain in the treaty given Russia's violations thereof with its Iskander-K and 9M729 missiles plus China's buildup of theater-range systems. Secondly, this would push the Chinese to overspend on systems that it knows it cannot match the United States in terms of quantity and quality.

China's industrial GDP is greater than US + Japan + EU combined. This finally gives China the excuse it needed to increase military spending by 300% to 1 trillion of it's real 22-25 trillion GDP.
 
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Hilarious response from the Chinese....a country that's not even a signatory of the treaty!

The US is not a signatory to UNCLOS either, but that didn't stop it from exploiting it and pretending to enforce it. The US sets the global standard for hypocrisy; other countries can only follow.

Anyway, the INF pullout goes to show that the US is determined to go and die in the same way the USSR under Brezhnev was, via military overspending. A poor country with a shockingly bad record on balance of payments cannot win an arms race with China.
 
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Well I guess Chinese will have to Increase their Stockpile of ICBM and Long range CM ..
 
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This sounds interesting. Imagine the missile proliferation and huge military advancements in third world countries as a direct result of rivalry between the US and China.
 
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Chinese reacting to US pulling out of US-Russian bilateral treaty.;):D

With just one move, the Americans put the entire PLAN within its cross hair.

US is officially recognizing that China is the threat number 1.

Compare the reactions of Russia and China to US withdrawing from a bilateral treaty with Russia.
 
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The US is not a signatory to UNCLOS either, but that didn't stop it from exploiting it and pretending to enforce it. The US sets the global standard for hypocrisy; other countries can only follow.

Anyway, the INF pullout goes to show that the US is determined to go and die in the same way the USSR under Brezhnev was, via military overspending. A poor country with a shockingly bad record on balance of payments cannot win an arms race with China.

The Washington regime is the school yard bully that says only the bully can throw punches and use weapons, everybody else must take the punches and slashes with knives and such. Any uppity kid not willing to take the beating from the washington regime is labeled "terrorist" or a "Chinese sympathizer".

The teacher/principal is Netanyahu and friends with the bully. The other kids (Europe, Asia, Africa, and Latin America) needs to take over the school to stop the abuse. Treat Washington and Hell Aviv as rogue hostile regimes and you are one step in the direction of love and freedom.
 
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China called on the U.S. to reconsider pulling out of a three-decade-old arms control treaty with Russia, saying the move would generate "multiple negative effects."

President Donald Trump said Saturday he planned to pull out of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, known as INT, claiming that Moscow had breached the agreement on intermediate-range conventional and nuclear weapons. The New York Times reported the move was in part to enable the U.S. to counter a Chinese arms buildup in the Pacific.

"I want to stress that it is completely wrong to use China as an excuse for pulling out of the treaty," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told reporters Monday in Beijing. "We hope relevant countries can cherish the hard-won achievements over the years, prudently and properly handle issues related to the treaty through dialogue and consultation, and think twice about withdrawing from the treaty."

Without the restrictions of the 1987 treaty, China has had a free hand developing and deploying intermediate-range nuclear missiles of its own, including missiles designed to take out U.S. aircraft carriers patrolling the waters of the Western Pacific. Exiting the accord would free the U.S. to deploy new weapons in the Indo-Pacific to respond to China's attempt to erode its post-World War II dominance.

"China hasn't signed the agreement and has been producing mid-range missiles and so-called carrier killers to asymmetrically increase the costs of an American-led naval containment strategy," said Stephen Nagy, a senior associate professor at the International Christian University in Tokyo. "The U.S. is likely withdrawing to send a message to Beijing that the U.S. can and will produce mid-range nuclear weapons that can erode away China's existing asymmetric advantage."


The prospect of a U.S. weapons buildup would underscore concern in Beijing that the U.S. is intent on thwarting China's rise, be it via a trade war or a systematic program of military containment. Since Trump's election U.S.-China relations have deteriorated on virtually every front, from trade to cyber-security to geopolitical flash points like Taiwan and the South China Sea.

Under the 1987 agreement, the U.S. and the former Soviet Union committed to eliminate all ground-based nuclear and conventional missiles with a range between 500 to 5,550 kilometers (310 to 3,420 miles).


China's collection of intermediate missiles -- including the recently developed DF-26s -- form the backbone of its offensive capabilities in the Asia Pacific and are designed to hit targets along the strategic "first and second island chains," according to Zhang Baohui, director of the Centre for Asian Pacific Studies at Lingnan University in Hong Kong.

The "first island chain" is a string of archipelagos stretching from Japan, past Taiwan to the Philippines -- all U.S. security partners. The "second island chain" runs southward past Guam toward Papua New Guinea. Guam hosts a major U.S. naval base for the Pacific Ocean.

"A China factor in the U.S. decision to withdraw from the treaty is highly plausible," Zhang said. "It is China, not Russia, that is possessing an ever-increasing number of medium and intermediate range missiles."

As it would take time to build new nuclear-tipped missiles, the U.S. was preparing to modify existing weapons, including its non-nuclear Tomahawk missiles, and was likely to deploy them first in Asia, the New York Times reported, citing officials who have been briefed on the issue. The weapons may be based in Japan, or at the U.S. naval base in Guam where it would face little political opposition, the Times reported.

"China would have little choice but to spend more on the military -- read less on the economy -- or come to the negotiating table to come to an agreement about mid-range systems," said Nagy. "This would have the effect of removing their existing anti-access area denial strategy."

https://www.chron.com/news/article/China-says-US-should-think-twice-about-leaving-13326286.php

Hilarious response from the Chinese....a country that's not even a signatory of the treaty!

China is terrified. They know full well this changes the game in the Western Pacific.
People have poor memories. Back in 2002, Bush W pull US from the ABM so they can develop anti ballistic system to make themselves safer. At that time China only have minimum missiles that could reach US. Every analyst predicted China would start to modernize their nuclear missiles in reaction to US withdrawal from the ABM and that they did. Today 15years and billions of $ later is United States safer ?

The actions of US always have unintended consequences.
 
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The Chinese/Russians only need to copy the AIPAC. That is all that really needs to be done by anyone.
 
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China's industrial GDP is greater than US + Japan + EU combined. This finally gives China the excuse it needed to increase military spending by 300% to 1 trillion of it's real 22-25 trillion GDP.

Actually it might be a good idea for China to build up the missile force, with the economy not doing so well arms spending could help GDP growth.
 
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