China says can build what it wants on South China Sea isles

[Grand Historian]

,Hi, what is your opinion about China dashed line ?
any legal bases to claim for the water area near Natuna island ( indonesia ) and James Shoal ( Malaysia ) ?

Though this wouldn't fly in international court I believe waters like these should be shared to defuse tensions on all sides.

I'm not well versed in the history of SCS islands,I reserve my judgement for the moment being as there are contradictory sources.

I'm surprised you have managed to debunk them for so long, talking about will power

He's quite predictable so he always makes the same claims,so its pretty easy to find the same arguments to use against him

Conversing the history with a person that can't even read their ancient text book and rely on Chinese for translation is like talk to the wall for me, even Japaneses are smarter, they know how to preserve Kanji to learn Japan uppon a time.

I agree, I asked him many times for the sources in Hanzi and every single time he as ignored my request.

Its not my problem he lacks the tools and skills necessary to even back up his claims.

I never reply to that thing when it harasses me as I'm convinced it's a bot. There are certain words that trigger its sensors, and then that thing will let loose with the same diatribe about "illegal occupation", followed up with the "holko is not han" speech. Never any variation. At this rate, it seems doubtful that Vietnamese software can ever pass the Turing test .

He's nothing more than a nationalist with some insecure issue about today's Southern Han.

 

[BoQ77]

What if I could occupy an unknown islet in East China Sea ?

 

[BoQ77]

Though this wouldn't fly in international court I believe waters like these should be shared to defuse tensions on all sides.

I'm not well versed in the history of SCS islands,I reserve my judgement for the moment being as there are contradictory sources.

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We could relate 2 similar flow :
1. ROC whose central govt located in Taiwan claimed entire of China mainland and maybe some parts of SCS in their era ( not PRC created dashed line but ROC )
2. Mongols who ever occupy ( legal or illegal ) entire of China mainland, Korea ( not Vietnam, Japan ) and big parts of Asia, European ... As we see Chinese accepted Mongols as their people ( true / false ) so same to KMT.
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So if using historical evidence, to me it's Mongols who could easily dominate the claim of ROC, even claim for some parts of European
And ROC would be the one who claim for some parts of SCS, and in sequence claim for entire of China mainland first.
PRC is not the proper claimant for SCS parts ( ie. inside dashed line )

But we all know that so laughable to use that virtual evidence to claim for territory nowaday.

The reason for existence of such a laughable claim is because it supported by a big military force, even from improper claimant, PRC. They is turning black to white.

 

[Grand Historian]

We could relate 2 similar flow :
1. ROC whose central govt located in Taiwan claimed entire of China mainland and maybe some parts of SCS in their era ( not PRC created dashed line but ROC )
2. Mongols who ever occupy ( legal or illegal ) entire of China mainland, Korea ( not Vietnam, Japan ) and big parts of Asia, European ... As we see Chinese accepted Mongols as their people ( true / false ) so same to KMT.
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So if using historical evidence, to me it's Mongols who could easily dominate the claim of ROC, even claim for some parts of European
And ROC would be the one who claim for some parts of SCS, and in sequence claim for entire of China mainland first.
PRC is not the proper claimant for SCS parts ( ie. inside dashed line )

But we all know that so laughable to use that virtual evidence to claim for territory nowaday.

The reason for existence of such a laughable claim is because it supported by a big military force, even from improper claimant, PRC. They is turning black to white.

Your analogy doesn't work,ROC was internationally recognized to be the successor of the Qing empire and the PRC of the ROC therefore PRC is able to utilize Qing era maps as evidence.

Mongols ruled in a Chinese fashion just like the rest of the nomads who became emperors,they claimed legitimacy through the previous dynasty whether Han or non-Han it made no difference to them.

After purging remnant pretenders,the emperors generally left the extended family alone.

Why else do you see so many ethnic "Han" Yuan and Qing loyalists?

 

[Jlaw]

Its so boring conversing with EastSea he just parrots the same debunked assumptions and tries to peddle it as "history".

I'm sure you've seen my posts before,he either directly ignores them or goes on wild tangents.

Bingo. That's how Viets in PDF debate. They don't debate the issue but digress other issues to deflect the issue at hand. We call it "arguing like a Nam man"

Or they will cry to the mods and report you for stating factual comments. LOL.

Sadly people say the forums do not represent the majority of the group in real life, when it comes to Vietnamese it does. Local Vietnamese HuaQui use this saying quite a bit to call these people "歪嘴撩狐 "

 

[BoQ77]

ROC still exist. That's a fact.

 

[Grand Historian]

ROC still exist. That's a fact.

They have no legitimacy over the mainland.

so I call you cini or Chini pigs, same manner as you troll.

Cry some more hypocrite,you can't even defend claims and you have the gall to call other people trolls.

 

[Jlaw]

ROC still exist. That's a fact.

@Grand Historian , see here is a perfect example of the Nam Man debate philosophy.

 

[BoQ77]

They have no legitimacy over the mainland.


Cry some more hypocrite,you can't even defend claims and you have the gall to call other people trolls.

Whoever call ROC come to its end ?
The father didnot die to give the inheritance to his son.

 

[Grand Historian]

Whoever call ROC come to its end ?

Are you serious?

The international community recognizes PRC as the sole ruler of China,including Vietnam.

 

[EastSea]

Cry some more hypocrite,you can't even defend claims and you have the gall to call other people trolls.

I answered to troll of your guy, get lost from my debate.

Hokklo people is a majority population in Taiwan.

 

[BoQ77]

China blame ASEAN to invite USA, but in real, they are the one who trigger the move of USA to SCS ...
Then you'll see ... US coming ...

 

[rcrmj]

where were Xia, Shang, Zhou ? and where were Jelang, Dian Guo, Nan Chiao, wu Yue, Nan Yue, min Yue...brainwashed pig ? ?

really difficult to follow primitive homo sapiens logic```well anyway its not human logic, thats why``

 

[Kyle Sun]

Vietnam territory included Paracel and Spratly Islands.

When you are talking about history, territory of Han Chinese is included Xia, Shang and Zhou territory only.

Do not talk " history" with us please.

 

[Kyle Sun]

get lost, I say to you again. Min yue boy dont have your own history book, stop steal history of Han people who speak Mandarin language, not min nan laguage like you.



I talk to the Taiwanese boy The Truth who said about Indraputra with me, I don't talk to you.

No difference.