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China’s greatest threat is internal

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I have been travelling to China for more than three decades, but never have I encountered a Chinese leadership so uncertain of the country’s future. It is little exaggeration to say that the world’s most populous country is on its heels. The irony is inescapable: political leaders in the US and Asia are busy debating how best to meet what they see as the threat from China; political leaders in China are debating how best to meet the many threats they perceive to China.

Most of the threats the Chinese see to their country come from within. For three decades China has depended on robust growth, largely from ever-increasing exports, to maintain high levels of employment and raise living standards, thereby assuring social tranquillity.

This era may have run its course. Years of low economic growth in Europe and the US (and the prospect of more to come) have limited their ability to absorb Chinese goods. There is also increasing resistance to the country’s policy of keeping its currency at artificially low levels to reduce the cost of its exports to consumers in Europe and the US.

Domestic pressures – the need to raise hundreds of millions more Chinese out of poverty, growing resentment over income and wealth inequality, the need to keep growth rates high – are also pushing China to find something to complement, if not replace, export-led growth. The result is that China is in the early days of a transition, one in which economic growth will increasingly have to stem from increased demand at home. Like all transitions, economic rebalancing is easier to call for than to bring about.

What makes it hard to accomplish is the inflation and a housing bubble that must be brought under control. Such pressures argue for policies that cool the economy – something that makes long-term economic sense but risks causing short-term political criticism. A further complication is that China must undertake this economic transition amid a political transition. The next generation of leaders is about a year from assuming office. The men taking over will face a daunting array of challenges in addition to those already mentioned: a deteriorating environment (when I was in Beijing recently it was possible to see only a few hundred metres and all but impossible to breathe), an ageing population and an increasingly brittle political context. The recent protests of the southern villages of Haimen and Wukan are but the tip of the iceberg: China experienced well over 100,000 political protests of some scale this past year, most over grievances from land confiscation to unemployment and the environment.

Then there are developments beyond its borders. China’s heavy-handed diplomacy and expressions of special rights in the South China Sea have left it isolated in the region. As a result, there is greater interest in working with the US to balance China. Chinese officials are also uneasy over the potential showing of pro-independence forces in Taiwan’s January elections. The Chinese are nervous, too, about western overtures to Burma. And the death of Kim Jong-il in North Korea has created the possibility of change on the peninsula, which could result in refugees flocking into China, conflict with, or even the demise of, North Korea. This last prospect would constitute a strategic setback. China does not want to see the peninsula unified under Seoul and in the US’s orbit.

It will be tempting for some in the US and the region (especially those who see China as a rising threat) to try to exploit this state of affairs but, like most temptations, this should be resisted. It is not in the world’s interest to isolate China or to increase any sense of resentment the Chinese may hold. Rather, it remains very much in the world’s interest that China be integrated into global arrangements to manage the economy, limit climate change and combat proliferation. Its help is needed if Korea is ever to be unified peacefully, Iran to be prevented from gaining nuclear weapons and Pakistan is not to fail.

There is no reason to insult China. US officials should avoid repeating secretary of state Hillary Clinton’s description of the South China Sea as the “West Philippine Sea”. Such statements only fan nationalist pressures in China, fed by hundreds of millions of internet users. The last thing the world should want is a China that seeks to assuage domestic frustration through foreign adventurism.

One goal should be to get China to meet its international obligations and act through institutions. We should practice what we preach. This means pursuing trade-related disagreements through the World Trade Organisation and not through unilateral action. It also argues for congressmen taking into account the reality that the renminbi has somewhat appreciated, China’s trade surplus is coming down and US exports to China are at a high.

It is also helpful to maintain perspective. China may be the world’s second-largest economy but per capita output is at most only one-fifth that of most developed countries. China is building up militarily, but military spending is maybe a quarter that of the US. The issue should not be China’s rise, which is inevitable even if many underestimate the looming hurdles, but the character of a more powerful China. Hedging against the possibility of a more aggressive China is fine, but adopting a policy of containment would be premature and could actually help to create an adversarial relationship that would serve the interests of no one.

The writer is president of the Council on Foreign Relations




China’s greatest threat is internal - FT.com
 
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Basically, this article is 40% lies and 50% opinion formed by those lies. The 10% truth is in there to obscure the lies.
 
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China’s heavy-handed diplomacy and expressions of special rights in the South China Sea have left it isolated in the region. As a result, there is greater interest in working with the US to balance China.


China has shot itself in the foot with bullying smaller countries.

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Basically, this article is 40% lies and 50% opinion formed by those lies. The 10% truth is in there to obscure the lies.



Of course you would have that opinion :)
 
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China’s heavy-handed diplomacy and expressions of special rights in the South China Sea have left it isolated in the region. As a result, there is greater interest in working with the US to balance China.

China has shot itself in the foot with bullying smaller countries.
You might rethink that.
 
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You might rethink that.



Seoul Set to Combat Illegal Chinese Fishing - WSJ.com



well as clashing with countries such as Indonesia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam over sovereignty in the South China Sea in resource-related disputes, China was drawn into a diplomatic spat with Japan when a Chinese fishing boat and a Japanese coast-guard vessel collided in the East China Sea last year.


Now even South Korea is expressing it's concern

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The recent protests of the southern villages of Haimen and Wukan are but the tip of the iceberg: China experienced well over 100,000 political protests of some scale this past year, most over grievances from land confiscation to unemployment and the environment.


Now Nanjing plant hit as workers walk out in protest at bonuses - The Standard


Another protest today
 
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60 years ago they said China would not survive the Korea War.
50 years ago they said China would not be able to feed its people.
40 years ago they said China would collapse in Culture Revolution.
30 years ago they said China would fail after Mao's past.
20 years ago they said China would go down following the East Europe and Russia's tragic track.
10 years ago they said China would not have a chance after opening its market after joining the WTO.

200 years ago one said "Let China Sleep, for when the Dragon awakes, she will shake the world." That man was Napoleon.
 
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Seoul Set to Combat Illegal Chinese Fishing - WSJ.com



well as clashing with countries such as Indonesia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam over sovereignty in the South China Sea in resource-related disputes, China was drawn into a diplomatic spat with Japan when a Chinese fishing boat and a Japanese coast-guard vessel collided in the East China Sea last year.


Now even South Korea is expressing it's concern

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The recent protests of the southern villages of Haimen and Wukan are but the tip of the iceberg: China experienced well over 100,000 political protests of some scale this past year, most over grievances from land confiscation to unemployment and the environment.


Now Nanjing plant hit as workers walk out in protest at bonuses - The Standard


Another protest today

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Pakistan arrests 12 Indian fishermen
Eight boats seized: 48 Indian fishermen arrested | Metropolitan | DAWN.COM
Pak arrests 122 Indian fishermen, 23 fishing boats seized
The Hindu : States / Tamil Nadu : Sri Lankan Navy arrests 5 Indian fishermen

Always antagonizing it's neighbors.:disagree: India might want to rethink it's diplomacy.

riots in 2011 India

Riot in Jagatsinghpur district, Orissa, India, at least 1 killed and 2 injured
Riots in Darrang district, Assam, India, 4 killed
Riots in Bharatpur, Rajasthan, India, at least 9 killed, over a dozen injured
Riots in Ujjain, India, 2 killed and 16 injured in a religious riot
Riots in Paramakudi, Tamil Nadu, India, 7 killed
Riots in Pimpri-Chinchwad, India, 3 killed
Riots in Ganjam, Orissa, India, at least 2 killed
Riots in Guwahati, Assam, India, 2 killed and at least 30 injured
Riots in Greater Noida, Uttar Pradesh, India, 4 killed
Riots in West Bengal, India, at least 8 people killed in post-election violence
Riots in Jaitapur, Maharashtra, India, 1 killed, more than 50 injured
Riots in Assam, Meghalaya, Northeast India, 4 dead

The country is practically falling apart.
 
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What I'm saying, its ironic you want to work with the biggest bully of them all "to balance China". :azn:



Not only India but most of asia is working in some sort of fashion with USA from Australia to even Burma now, so who do they class as the bigger bully? :azn:

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Don't you know it is the Korean company LG that people are protesting?


I know who LG are but that is still classed as a demonstration

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Teargas fired at Chinese protesters in Haimen | World news | guardian.co.uk



Protests in China have become relatively common over issues such as corruption, pollution, wages, and land grabs that local officials justify in the name of development. People have become increasingly unwilling to accept the relentless speed of urbanisation and industrialisation and the impact on the environment and health.

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Better than shooting fisherman like Iran did to Pakistanis, btw do some more research both Pakistani and Indian fisherman are caught and released later it is no big issue.

Also you are going off-topic.
 
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Not only India but most of asia is working in some sort of fashion with USA from Australia to even Burma now, so who do they class as the bigger bully? :azn:

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I know who LG are but that is still classed as a demonstration

But demonstration against whom? About whom are people angry?

It is the selfish Korean company.

You wanna find a demonstration in China, that's easy. Go check the old reports in the 60s and 70s. There are almost weekly demonstration against US and Soviet Union with hundreds of thousands of people.
 
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Pakistan arrests 12 Indian fishermen
Eight boats seized: 48 Indian fishermen arrested | Metropolitan | DAWN.COM
Pak arrests 122 Indian fishermen, 23 fishing boats seized
The Hindu : States / Tamil Nadu : Sri Lankan Navy arrests 5 Indian fishermen

Always antagonizing it's neighbors.:disagree: India might want to rethink it's diplomacy.

riots in 2011 India

Riot in Jagatsinghpur district, Orissa, India, at least 1 killed and 2 injured
Riots in Darrang district, Assam, India, 4 killed
Riots in Bharatpur, Rajasthan, India, at least 9 killed, over a dozen injured
Riots in Ujjain, India, 2 killed and 16 injured in a religious riot
Riots in Paramakudi, Tamil Nadu, India, 7 killed
Riots in Pimpri-Chinchwad, India, 3 killed
Riots in Ganjam, Orissa, India, at least 2 killed
Riots in Guwahati, Assam, India, 2 killed and at least 30 injured
Riots in Greater Noida, Uttar Pradesh, India, 4 killed
Riots in West Bengal, India, at least 8 people killed in post-election violence
Riots in Jaitapur, Maharashtra, India, 1 killed, more than 50 injured
Riots in Assam, Meghalaya, Northeast India, 4 dead

The country is practically falling apart.

In the past they said bad thing about China because people can't demonstrate in this country.
Now there are demonstrations, they still saying bad things about China.

So why not cut the crap and come to China and then explode themselves?
 
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But demonstration against whom? About whom are people angry?

It is the selfish Korean company.

You wanna find a demonstration in China, that's easy. Go check the old reports in the 60s and 70s. There are almost weekly demonstration against US and Soviet Union with hundreds of thousands of people.



That is one protest today on bonuses/wages. There have been 100,000 this year as the article mentions, villages of Haimen and Wukan are tip of the iceberg.
 
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In the past they said bad thing about China because people can't demonstrate in this country.
Now there are demonstrations, they still saying bad things about China.

So why not cut the crap and come to China and then explode themselves?

Maybe their country is falling apart and they can't stand someone else doing better.
 
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A tip of iceberg? Can't you use some new words?

None of these issues you mentioned are as severe as the ones we've dealt decades before.

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That is one protest today on bonuses/wages. There have been 100,000 this year as the article mentions, villages of Haimen and Wukan are tip of the iceberg.

Everyone can go onto the street to protest about their wages. Like the occupy Wall Street action, dose that mean US is failure country?
 
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