China, Rome, and the United States

[ChineseTiger1986]

No,what he means is that myths and legends shouldn't be supplemented as history,there are Indians who think that Indo-European languages came from India,Aryans are indigensous and that the Rig Veda makes Indian civilization 10,000 years old.

I disagree with Chinese that believe the Three sovereigns and Five emperors existed though whether you view city ruins as the Xia dynasty is up to you.

Aryans (Proto-Indo-Europeans) are actually pretty young and it did originate in the Pontic-Caspian steppe around 7000-5000 years ago, so obviously it cannot originate in India.

 

[Grand Historian]

Aryans (Proto-Indo-Europeans) are actually pretty young and it did originate in the Pontic-Caspian steppe around 7000-5000 years ago, so obviously it cannot originate in India.

Exactly,my point is Indians have a inferiority complex about their origins so they fabricate history such as Aryans being native to India.

Other then Sima Qian claiming that Xiongnu are descended from the Xia dynasty we don't see Chinese claiming nomads such as Xianbei,GokTurk etc as originating from the Central Plains rather from the steppes.

 

[INDIC]

Your emperor Bharat came from mythology literature, it never existed in real life

We consider Emperor Bharata as human being and named our land as Bhārat in respect for him instead of fairy tales like mandate of Heaven, I am sure you Chinese also consider heaven as the part of China.

Aryans (Proto-Indo-Europeans) are actually pretty young and it did originate in the Pontic-Caspian steppe around 7000-5000 years ago, so obviously it cannot originate in India.

The genetic studies shows the Ancestral North Indians(ANI), the Northern ancestors of Indians originated around 40,000-30,000 years ago. The Southern ancestors, Ancestral South Indians(ASI) originated around 65,000 years ago.

 

[Grand Historian]

We consider Bharata as human being and named our land as Bhārat in respect for him instead of fairy tales like mandate of Heaven, I am sure you Chinese also consider heaven as the part of China.

What a shame that we don't have more ancient Indian sources otherwise you don't have to resort to historical fabrications and myths,

 

[Fattyacids]

Mandate of Heaven is not a mythology, your skyrocketinng high IQ is very surprising.

I understand your inferiority complex but acting dumb doesn't help. Heaven is a literally word, this Confucius concept had been practice over 2200 years, every emperor of china proclaimed the mandate of heaven. Confucius is real, the concept is real, Chinese emperors are real too.

 

[INDIC]

No,what he means is that myths and legends shouldn't be supplemented as history,there are Indians who think that Indo-European languages came from India,Aryans are indigensous and that the Rig Veda makes Indian civilization 10,000 years old.

That's a other debate, my point was people should have common sense that landmass named on mythological emperors aren't mythology but real name. There are many countries who's name be traced from the mythology.

There is a break in continuity between the Harrappan and later Indian dynasties if it wasn't for the British, Indians would have no idea that it existed.

That's not true. The recent archaeological excavations prove that Vedic culture was indeed a continuity of Indus Valley civilization. The Sapta Sindhu region(land of 7 rivers) of Rigveda matches exactly with Ochre coloured pottery phase(Cemetery H culture phase) of Late Indus Valley civilization. The population started to disperse into Gangetic plains when the mighty river Ghaggr-Hakra dried around 1900BC, many historians believe Ghaggar-Hakra is the Saraswati of Rigveda.

What happened after 1800 BCE? | Harappa

 

[Fattyacids]

We consider Emperor Bharata as human being and named our land as Bhārat in respect for him instead of fairy tales like mandate of Heaven, I am sure you Chinese also consider heaven as the part of China.

Mandate of Heaven is a concept, all concept are intangible, but each Chinese emperor who claimed the mandate existed.
But Your Emperor Bharat never existed in real life

 

[INDIC]

I understand your inferiority complex but acting dumb doesn't help. Heaven is a literally word, this Confucius concept had been practice over 2200 years, every emperor of china proclaimed the mandate of heaven. Confucius is real, the concept is real, Chinese emperors are real too.

Tell me how the mandate of Heaven is not a mythology.

 

[Mr.S.Singh]

I understand your inferiority complex but acting dumb doesn't help. Heaven is a literally word, this Confucius concept had been practice over 2200 years, every emperor of china proclaimed the mandate of heaven. Confucius is real, the concept is real, Chinese emperors are real too.

Good now lets get to the problem. Claiming a sovereign nation on bases of historic ties or break-up. What is china's stand on this issue ? what steps have you though to reunite em ?

Tell me how the mandate of Heaven is not a mythology.

because its chinese lol

 

[INDIC]

Mandate of Heaven is a concept, all concept are intangible, but each Chinese emperor who claimed the mandate is existed.
But Your Emperor Bharat never existed in real life

Mandate of heaven is a mythology and according to you, country based on mythology aren't real. Emperor Bharat is still considered as a Human being instead of Mandate of Heaven.

 

[Fattyacids]

That's not true. The recent archaeological excavations prove that Vedic culture was indeed a continuity of Indus Valley civilization. The Sapta Sindhu region(land of 7 rivers) of Rigveda matches exactly with Ochre coloured pottery phase(Cemetery H culture phase) of Late Indus Valley civilization. The population started to disperse into Gangetic plains when the mighty river Ghaggr-Hakra dried around 1900BC, many historians believe Ghaggar-Hakra is the Saraswati of Rigveda.

What happened after 1800 BCE? | Harappa

This is the dumbest and lamest Indian claim ever. The language of Indus valley was never deciphered. The civilization was dead at least 200 years before Aryans arrived in Persia and Northern India around 1500 BC.

Sanskrit came from Aryans.

 

[INDIC]

because its chinese lol

In Chinese high IQ logic, heaven is not a mythology and imaginary mandate from the Heaven is also not a mythology.

This is the dumbest and lamest Indian claim ever. The language of Indus valley was never deciphered. The civilization was dead at least 200 years before Aryans arrived in Persia and Northern India. LOL

It seems archaeological excavations and pottery phase is beyond the comprehension of your high IQ brain.

What a shame that we don't have more ancient Indian sources otherwise you don't have to resort to historical fabrications and myths,

Can you elaborate it genius. The earliest idea of India called Aryavarta came from Vedas and in subsequent centuries other name like Bharata Varsha originated and thus remained the most popular name for India till today.

 

[Fattyacids]

In Chinese high IQ logic, heaven is not a mythology and imaginary mandate from the Heaven is also not a mythology.

Of course, high IQ. I'll show how dumb your argument is,

1) Heaven is generic word by itself. The word exists in all culture and language.

2) "Mandate of Heaven" came from Confucius, it's no mythology. it's a philosophical notion or custom: All customs are intangible, intangible does NOT mean imaginary.

3) Each and every Chinese emperor who claimed the mandate of heaven EXISTED in real life.
Your Emperor Bharat was a fictionalized character in Mahabharata, he never existed in real life.

It seems archaeological excavations and pottery phase is beyond the comprehension of your high IQ brain.

Excavation and pottery? By complex ridden indian scientists who also claimed that Aryan are indigenous to india?

1) Language denotes civilization. Indus valley language was never deciphered until today.
Your Sanskrit came from Aryans

2) Indus Valley was proven dead in 1700 BC, at least 200 years before Aryan arrived. This is an indisputable historical fact.

Your absurd claim is threading into mythology Indians are so famous for

 

[armchairPrivate]

@Fattyacids, stop making sense. I am tired of clicking thumbs up on your posts.

 

[INDIC]

Playing dumb doesn't work here. If you're not bright enough, go back and read it again. Post 105

No, you didn't give me the answer, why the mandate of Heaven is not a mythology.

Vedic civilization came from Aryans, Brahmi script came from Aramaic script. You don't have any written record of your history like we do. You need 19th century European indologist to write your history, LOL. Everything Indian is of foreign origin.

My dear Tang Chinese, show me the proof for all of your claims instead of pulling it from your behind.