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China Replaces Australian Iron Ore, Coal Imports with African Alternatives

I think you need to check the latest figures. Things are not as rosy as it seems. Mines are closing down and alot are jobless now. Scottie boy just invited Kevin ruud as trade advisor to reestablish the Chinese relationship.

I think you need to check the latest figures. Things are not as rosy as it seems. Mines are closing down and alot are jobless now. Scottie boy just invited Kevin ruud as trade advisor to reestablish the Chinese relationship.

She is only trolling around.
She even cannot answer my question, if there are no negative effect toward aussie. Why Aussies Trade minister begging to China :lol:
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https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/dan-tehan-china-001406041.html



Aussie already feel the pain, and many farmers & business people grudge against their government immature policy toward China.
Its very bad for Agricultural country like Australia

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2...o-plummet-as-exports-to-china-dry-up/13111782
 
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The Aussie economy grew 2.4% in the last quarter from a pre-covid average of 0.4%
And Aussie trade surplus with China has increased even more in the last few months.

Yeah! Boi China stronk!! :china:

This is coming from an Aussie. Please do NOT believe in these numbers, they are far from Reality, and by the way, this is only benefiting a handful of powerful business mafia in Australia. Economy and ordinary people do not get any benefit.
 
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China can easily replace Australian imports, as shown by recent developments: analyst
Deteriorating ties to hurt Australia more
By
Chu Daye Global Times
Published: Feb 06, 2021 04:33 PM

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File photo: An FMG iron ore mining site in Australia Photo: cnsphoto

A year after the Morrison government decided to further sour China-Australia ties by calling for a weapons inspector-style investigation into the COVID-19's origins while China was in the midst of containing the novel coronavirus, Chinese ports are beginning to receive hundreds of thousands of tons of coal and shiploads of iron ore from Sierra Leone, a sign that does not bode well for Australia, as it shows how easy China could replace Australia with alternative sources, even for iron ore and coal, a Chinese observer told the Global Times on Saturday.

The first batch of 160,000 tons of seaborne coal from South Africa, weighing 2,387 tons, was loaded on trains heading for Nanning, the capital of South China's Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region on Thursday, a local media outlet reported.

The coal shipment arrived in less than a month, and is the first batch of coal imports by China from South Africa in five years.

News of the coal shipment followed a press release by the Chinese Embassy in Sierra Leone last week, which said a ship loaded with iron ore mined by the Kingho New Tonkolili Iron Ore Project in the West African country, the very first shipment for the new project, left the Port of Pepel and was heading toward China on January 29.

Chinese analysts closely following China-Australia relations said these two developments are aimed at tackling China's overreliance on coal and iron ore from Australia, after a winter of shortage woes for thermal coal and recent runaway iron ore prices sent renewed alerts to Chinese policymakers.

Song Wei, an associate research fellow at the Chinese Academy of International Trade and Economic Cooperation, said despite China's overreliance on Australian iron ore and coal, which has caused some hiccups in the past months, recent shipments of the important materials from alternative sources showed that it is easy for China to replace Australia as its import source.

"China's cooperation with developing countries has been rapidly expanding in recent years, and many of these countries are rich in natural resources and are seeking to achieve economic development and growth themselves via trade," Song said.

Chinese experts told the Global Times that China needs three to five years to invest and develop in African iron ore mines, but some investment projects started before China-Australia ties soured in 2020.

Analysts said although Australia scored a hit with the skyrocketing iron ore prices in recent months, shoring up its overall export value to China and getting the juice of China's manufacturing recovery, rising prices for the ferrous metal also awakened some of the dormant Chinese investment in Africa.

"Some Chinese mineral investment projects were already on the ground as earlier as 2013, and the soaring iron ore prices meant those 'resources in reserve' can now be tapped," Wang Guoqing, research director at the Beijing Lange Steel Information Research Center, told the Global Times on Saturday.

Wang noted that due to the high cost of opening up iron ore mines in Africa, there is little to be gained when global iron ore prices hovered at around $50 per ton a few years ago. "But with the price at $150 per ton, investors can make a profit from these high-cost mines," Wang said.

Despite being easy for China to replace Australia with alternative trading partners, it will be difficult for Australia, on the other hand, to find alternative export markets to recoup its losses from the Chinese market, experts said.

Australia posted a trade and services surplus of A$72.7 billion ($55.47 billion), an increase of A$5.2 billion on the surplus of A$67.5 billion recorded in 2019 in its balance on goods and services for 2020, data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showed on Thursday.

However, after a year of trade tensions with China, its largest trading partner, and with the Morrison government choosing to back the Trump administration's anti-China campaign, which ultimately only damaged its relations with China, some sectors are starting to feel the impact of strained bilateral ties.

Wine exports were effectively wiped out in December after China imposed a temporary tariff amid an ongoing anti-dumping investigation, the Wine Australia report showed.

Impacted by a deteriorating China-Australia relationship, China's imports from Australia saw an annual decline of 5.3 percent in US dollar terms, according to Chinese Customs data from mid-January.

Australian farmers also warned that the country's trade dispute with China and supply chain disruptions linked to the pandemic will cost the industry $28 billion over the next decade, the Financial Times reported on Friday.

Equally at risk is Australia's services sector, which generates almost as much revenue as the minerals exports for Down Under, Song said.

China's Ministry of Education issued a fresh warning on Friday to students studying in Australia following recent attacks on Chinese in the country and common COVID-19 outbreaks, a move that experts believe could be the result of damaged and still deteriorating China-Australia relations
 
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Price of coal increases. Price China must pay increases. Chinese goods price increases.
Australia can sell to ally Japan at a discount and buy Japanese goods. Japanese industry becomes more competitive.
US can buy internally at a discount. US industry becomes more competitive.

result some jobs return to the USA and Aussies keep mining. China still has lots of coal and still builds things for the world. Everybody wins. Except the UK (urUK hai...orcs of Saruman) but nobody cares about that.
 
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China Replaces Australian Iron Ore, Coal Imports with African Alternatives
By
Chu Daye
Published: Feb 06, 2021 04:33 PM


18d35477-cff3-4837-bc19-8603ce72249a.jpeg

File photo: An FMG iron ore mining site Photo: cnsphoto

Just about one year after Scott Morrison's government decided to further sour China-Australia ties by calling for a weapons-inspector style investigation into COVID-19's origins while China was in the midst of containing the novel coronavirus, Chinese ports are beginning to receive hundreds of thousands of tons of coal and a full shipload of iron ore from Sierra Leone, a sign that does not bode well for Australia, as it shows how easy China could replace Australia with alternative import sources, even for iron ore and coal, a Chinese observer told the Global Times on Saturday.

The first batch of 160,000 tons of seaborne coal from South Africa, weighing 2,387 tons, was loaded onto trains heading for Nanning, the capital of South China's Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region on Thursday, a local media outlet reported.

The coal shipment, arriving after a voyage of over 20 days, is the first load of imports by China from South Africa in five years.

The news of the coal shipment follows a news release posted by the Chinese Embassy in Sierra Leone last week, which said a ship loaded with iron ores mined by the Kingho New Tonkolili Iron Ore Project in the West African country, the very first shipment for the new project, left the Port of Pepel and was heading toward China on January 29.

Chinese analysts closely following China-Australia relations said these two developments are clearly aimed at tackling China's overreliance on coal and iron ore resources from Australia, after a winter of shortage woes for thermal coal and recent runaway iron ore prices sent renewed alerts to Chinese policymakers.

Song Wei, an associate research fellow at the Chinese Academy of International Trade and Economic Cooperation, said despite China's overreliance on Australian iron ore and coal, which has caused quite some hiccups in the past months, recent shipments of the important materials from alternative source countries showed that it is easy for China to replace Australia as its import source.

"China's cooperation with developing countries has been rapidly expanding in recent years, and many of these countries are rich in natural resources and are seeking to achieve economic development and growth themselves via trade," Song said.

Chinese experts told the Global Times that China needs three to five years to invest and develop in African iron ore mines, but some investment projects long started before China-Australian ties soured in 2020.

Despite it being easy for China to replace Australia with alternative trading partners, it will be difficult for Australia, on the other hand, to find alternative exports market to recoup its losses from the Chinese market, experts said.

Australia posted a trade and services surplus of A$72.7 billion ($55.47 billion), an increase of A$5.2 billion on the surplus of A$67.5 billion recorded in 2019 in its balance on goods and services for 2020, data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics showed on Thursday.

However, after a year of trade tensions with China, its largest trading partner, and with the Morrison government choosing to back the Trump administration's anti-China campaign, which ultimately only damaged its relations with China, some sectors are starting to feel the impact of strained bilateral ties.

Wine exports were effectively wiped out in December after China imposed a temporary tariff amid an ongoing anti-dumping investigation, the Wine Australia report showed.

Impacted by a deteriorating China-Australia relationship, China's imports from Australia saw an annual decline of 5.3 percent in US dollar terms, according to Chinese customs data from mid-January.

Australian farmers also warned that the country's trade dispute with China and supply chain disruptions linked to the pandemic will cost the industry $28 billion over the next decade, the Financial Times reported on Friday.

Equally at risk is Australia's services sector, which generates almost as much revenue as the minerals exports for Down Under, Song said.

China's Ministry of Education issued a fresh warning on Friday to students studying in Australia following recent attacks on Chinese in the country and common COVID-19 outbreaks, a move that experts believe could be a result of damaged and still deteriorating China-Australia relations.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202102/1215117.shtml

Bye bye childish aussie 👋





Good for poor countries to save some cash. Australia is a developed country. They do not need resource exports.


This is win win win. Everyone wins.
 
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Price of coal increases. Price China must pay increases????

You mean like Aussie lobsters that were previously sold and exported to China at USD86 per kg and now forced to sell at USD33 per kg.

Now according to your logic, Australia will turned in a great profit selling these to other nations and in much smaller quantity.
China will suffers because of this.
:sarcastic: :sarcastic:
Australian PM is a great businessman.
I am pretty sure Australia will prospered under his brilliant leadership.
:cheers:

Indonesia is offering China a better deal for coals due to the size of her order alone.
 
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Scottie's attitude hasn't changed a bit, just kill trade with the Aussies for a number of years. Norway wasn't that hostile and China whipped it for 3 years.
 
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Indonesian exporters wants to make sure that Australia cannot get these orders from China.
Now will the great businessman Scomo lower his price to match those of her competitor by raising the price or perhaps donated it to USA as homage.

:sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic:
 
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Distance by sea Africa to China is 9200 km.
Australia to China is 4500 km.
I guess the Chinese are paying though their noses for the African coal .Chinese have cut their own nose to spite their face.
Good for Africa.
Lots of anti Chinese sentiment in Australia now. Pretty enjoyable to be frank.
 
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Scottie's attitude hasn't changed a bit, just kill trade with the Aussies for a number of years. Norway wasn't that hostile and China whipped it for 3 years.

First lesson Kelvin Rudd may offers to this Muddlehead Premier is:

Learn to be HUMBLE and respectful and be mindful of your No.1 customer's grievances.

Australia has to decide whether it wants to be a part of
1. Asia
2. EU
3. USA. As its 51 state.


Alternatively Australia can grab the leadership of the 4 eye Anglo-Saxon Nations Alliance now that his idol Trump is ousted.
Continue to take a hard stand like Trump did and make Australia Great again, a little USA down under.
:sarcastic: :sarcastic: :sarcastic: :cheers:
 
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Price of coal increases. Price China must pay increases????

You mean like Aussie lobsters that were previously sold and exported to China at USD86 per kg and now forced to sell at USD33 per kg.

Now according to your logic, Australia will turned in a great profit selling these to other nations and in much smaller quantity.
China will suffers because of this.
:sarcastic: :sarcastic:
Australian PM is a great businessman.
I am pretty sure Australia will prospered under his brilliant leadership.

I mean this. it says coal prices have doubled in the past few weeks. So I guess Australia now need sell half as much to make the same income.


and this...metallurgical coal comes mainly from Australia, the USA and Canada. Metallurgical coal makes high quality coke good for steel making. Probably inferior coal can be used but surely removing impurities will increase costs.

South Africa doesn't have metallurgical coal so cannot buy it from them.

Australia is building lots of warships and buying weapons a plenty. Australia seems to be with the USA, Japan and India.
 
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I mean this. it says coal prices have doubled in the past few weeks. So I guess Australia now need sell half as much to make the same income.


and this...metallurgical coal comes mainly from Australia, the USA and Canada. Metallurgical coal makes high quality coke good for steel making. Probably inferior coal can be used but surely removing impurities will increase costs.

South Africa doesn't have metallurgical coal so cannot buy it from them.
Australia has the best coal , with the least impurities. The effect of a clean burning coal , on the efficiency, calorific value, environment, and costs like furnace maintenance, associated with the above 3 points is immense.
 
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I mean this. it says coal prices have doubled in the past few weeks. So I guess Australia now need sell half as much to make the same income.


and this...metallurgical coal comes mainly from Australia, the USA and Canada. Metallurgical coal makes high quality coke good for steel making. Probably inferior coal can be used but surely removing impurities will increase costs.

South Africa doesn't have metallurgical coal so cannot buy it from them.

Check the statistics before posting.
China has one of the biggest reserve for coal in the world today. What she imports from other nation is miniscule by comparison?

For the other guy argument.
Since Indonesia is nearer to Australia therefore Indonesia coal must be a better deal.
Why not mine it inside China, it is even much better? Another injun bites the dust.
:sarcastic: :sarcastic: :sarcastic:

Australia has the best coal , with the least impurities. The effect of a clean burning coal , on the efficiency, calorific value, environment, and costs like furnace maintenance, associated with the above 3 points is immense.
And more quality carbon emission as well.
:sarcastic: :sarcastic: :sarcastic:
 
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Australia has the best coal , with the least impurities. The effect of a clean burning coal , on the efficiency, calorific value, environment, and costs like furnace maintenance, associated with the above 3 points is immense.

Coal from Russia and Mongolia have same quality with the aussies.

"There is also not much difference in the quality and price between Russian and Australian coal,” said Lin.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212532.shtml


With much shorter range, Russia and Mongolia can supply High-grade Coal with much cheaper price.
For Low-grade Coal, China imported from Indonesia, Phillipines, and many other countries
 
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What part of economic loss do you not understand?
This is like entry level economics you are hopefully just playing dumb about.

Are you sure you are Chinese? If so, then I guess you represent another anomaly the second to grace this thread.

The Australian economy is growing so said economic loss has not occurred yet. If the economic loss that so many Chinese yearn for does occur then you can come here and celebrate the awesomeness of big daddy China.. :china:
 
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