China Releases the Original Galwan Chinese Indian Clash Video

[retaxis]

Man all the Indian trolls are sweating bullets right now

 

[GumNaam]

Man all the Indian trolls are sweating bullets right now

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[Cookie Monster]

What's fishy is that they captured begining and end of it and skipped the actual skirmish. Wondering why? Not making any conclusions. Just curious if anybody may explain.

My guess...is bcuz the beginning was filmable by the Chinese side as Indian soldiers approached...
...they see the threat and call for backup. In the meantime they have to make do with whatever soldiers are present.

...the middle part...if they are outnumbered...which Chinese soldier will be filming? Would Indian soldiers just leave one Chinese soldier alone to film? Would he want to film when his fellow soldiers are being attacked?

...end part can be filmed again(once backup has arrived) and Indian soldiers are retreating.

And yet they killed 20 Indian soldiers and sustained only 4 casualties. Pure Chinese logic.

Isn't this precisely the same as what Indian media had been peddling? That the Chinese were armed(nailed sticks) and outnumbered Indians...still the outnumbered Indians killed 40(or 45 or whatever number) Chinese soldiers...
...even though Indian soldiers were fleeing and in the process some fell to their deaths while some others got captured?

But now when video emerges...that shows the exact opposite...now u question it?

 

[krash]

Whatever may be the content of the video. It was released during general election. Same thing will happen for PLA death/captive video.

Oh well then, you can release those kinds of videos every day. What's the point of waiting for the opportune moment when all you are going release is an artless attempt at faking proof? I'm sure you can get blurred images from behind trees of random huts and random FLIR shots showing nothing every day.

Funny though, how you would believe that garbage and not the Chinese videos.

 

[waz]

Looks like the Chinese called the Indian media’s bluff, as a result a panic.

 

[Dungeness]

My guess...is bcuz the beginning was filmable by the Chinese side as Indian soldiers approached...
...they see the threat and call for backup. In the meantime they have to make do with whatever soldiers are present.

...the middle part...if they are outnumbered...which Chinese soldier will be filming? Would Indian soldiers just leave one Chinese soldier alone to film? Would he want to film when his fellow soldiers are being attacked?

...end part can be filmed again(once backup has arrived) and Indian soldiers are retreating.

Isn't this precisely the same as what Indian media had been peddling? That the Chinese were armed(nailed sticks) and outnumbered Indians...still the outnumbered Indians killed 40(or 45 or whatever number) Chinese soldiers...
...even though Indian soldiers were fleeing and in the process some fell to their deaths while some others got captured?

But now when video emerges...that shows the exact opposite...now u question it?

The soldier who was shooting video is Xiao Siyuan, one of 4 Chinese soldiers KIA.

 

[Mace]

Looks like the Chinese called the Indian media’s bluff, as a result a panic.

The timing of the Chinese dead details and videos suggest China’s attempt to distract from the questionable sudden withdrawal of its forces.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Environmental factors dictate that China and India can't both become developed countries with current technology.

While China has worked tirelessly to improve energy and food technologies to sustain mankind and avoid bloodshed, India has made nearly zero contribution to sustainable development. Instead it fervently imports weapons even as their people starve to sustain aggression against China and to rob Chinese land for their dream of Akhand Bharat, a fascist plot scarcely different than the Nazi concept of lebensraum.

 

[Paul2]

I kind of don't get.

Every media around seem to confuse Qi's rank.

A regimental commander (zhengtuan) must be a full colonel as per regulation, or a 4 star senior colonel (大校) after 2017 if we talk about brigades. In PLA, normally, only graded officers have real command authority, and there are only two commanding graded officers per unit below a brigade level.

Qi's insignia is clearly that of lt. colonel.

The claim of Indians either capturing a battalion commander, or just claiming that a battalion sized unit was lead by a captain prior to the July 16 clash don't stack with reality. A maximum of what captain can lead in peacetime would be a company. It's very unusual for captains to get even a deputy commander grade in a battalion in regular units, or at least in ground forces.

The identity of units involved also seem to be misidentified everywhere.

By the definition, a whole combined arms brigade will be much larger than anything Indians claimed to have seen in Galwan. And I believe no full brigade is stationed at the border, or close to it, and would not be in peacetime.

Under normal circumstances, there would be no unit bigger than a regiment, or a few battaliona detachment + PAP, or militia. And if it were, Indians would've had their asses kicked much harder. At maximum, the force Indians seen was a single battalion, as suggested by satellite photos. You can't quarter more than a battalion in those measly tents, let alone a whole brigade.

So, yes, if Beijing wanted to initiate, and come in force as Indian's claiming, it would've not been just a regular border regiment with some assorted pap, and militia, but at least a much bigger regular ground forces unit, if not an elite one. We are not seeing any sign of that here.

Imagine, if you were a commander of a freaking brigade of a standing army, why would you even bother with calling pap, and militia (guys in riot gear in the video) from hundred kilometres away for help, if you have at least 2-3 well equipped, and aclimatised battalions whose officers were already in the loop?

 

[waz]

The timing of the Chinese dead details and videos suggest China’s attempt to distract from the questionable sudden withdrawal of its forces.

Maybe, but now major questions have been raised for which there no answer.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Chinese had played this very well Indeed. Well done.

1- Indian lied , as usual. They claimed Chinese were the culprits and attacked their IA. When opposite was true.

2- Their media made gaff after gaff in reporting the casualty figures from PLA. Claiming China is hiding its deaths. Claiming how brave were Indian soldiers, they killed twice the numbers despite being fewer in count.

3- Now the figures of their casualties with names is out by the Chinese. To top that the video to show how cowardly Indians in their 100s crossed the river and attacked few Chinese soldiers, who were on the other side of the river and were posing no harm to the Indian soldiers.

Now wait for the Indians to go in to frenzy trying to prove that this video is some how fake or of some other incident. The efforts are already started on this thread, soon their media would be at it.

 

[Han Patriot]

if Indians are outnumbering then howcome you claim that only 3 chinese soldiers died...

plus the most obvious issue with the video...no frozen waters. Thta's where most people died.

Because most Indians died fleeing into the river. Lol

The timing of the Chinese dead details and videos suggest China’s attempt to distract from the questionable sudden withdrawal of its forces.

China had been very professional, we only release the videos once the agreement was finalised. Since day 1, I told you China wanted to create a buffer zone extending into India. It was Indians who rejected this peace offer multiple times and keep creating problems by trespassing. Now with 20 dead, I hope Indian learn their lesson. Lolol

 

[ARMalik]

Fellows, be prepared for 3rd grade replies from these 3rd class shameless indians on this forum. They will have plenty of garbage to spill .... be prepared with garbage bags.

 

[ARMalik]

Not only are Indians gutless cowards, they’ve been exposed as blatant liars. Video evidence has completely exposed these Indian frauds. Literally the exact opposite happened of what the Indian government has been saying.

As I as always said, the biggest Fraudsters on Earth are Indians. These are very, very shamless, pathetic, and cowardly people with LYING AND DECEIT as fundamental pillar of their Philosophy and Culture. They FIRMLY BELIEVE and FOLLOW Chanakya ideology.

 

[siegecrossbow]

I challenge the Indians to provide their own version of the video. If what is posted is Chinese propaganda, you surely must have the real version that could debunk the Chinese version.