China re-affirm its position on Kashmir to Indian delegation

[PakSword]

Do you honestly think you the zionist led US, UK and France region gonna favour honestly and truth?

Nopes, that's why I am against going to unsc

 

[Joe Shearer]

Totally agree as starters...

Unless Whites become Freedom for Kashmir spokesmen... ganguz will be homefree for genocide...

What I admire most about posts on this forum is the refreshing change from the collective insults and ethnic slurs used by Sanghis in their discourse.

I have already suggested that let the whitewomen who have been raped in GangaDaesh need to take the cause of rape victims of gangu terrorist army in Kashmir...

Indeed. A well-thought through step.

There need to be Mega Posters of Pallet Gun Victim of Childeren of Kashmir from Rome to D.C. ...i.e. every major capital of the world.

Expensive.

But no doubt there will be subventions available.

Need to get Vatican on Kashmir side... because christian are next....

Sadly, this is no longer a fresh field of endeavour. Not since Sonia Gandhi stepped into politics.

There needs to Concerts for Kashmir a la Apartheid regime... with Whites, Blacks and Paks...

Coke Studio? A good idea. As has been pointed out by an eminent member, cultural independence, or at least autonomy, is long overdue.

Need to get women's right organisation on to this... it is time for them to shine for Feminism...otherwise, they are just butch.

Your subtle and deep appreciation of the feminist movement will undoubtedly win you a just reward.

And finally PMIK needs to have a dedicated Channel on FB/YT with short..to the point speechs in English for the global audience. PMIK can create internet riots... but without any bongis...

Completely in confidence - it would never do to take the advice of a gangu - it might be called Mann ki Baat. But to make it stand out, it might be subtly changed to Man ki Bat.

PMIK needs to be writthing in WP/WSJ/NYT/Guardian etc... explaining withat GangaNazis are all about... neither too academic nor too emotional.

If anonymous ghost writers are to be entertained, might I.....?

And most important of all... PMIK needs to understand that GangaDaesh has misused the tragedy of 9/11 to mass murder and oppress Kashmiris.. he needs to expose this ...and in the process show the West that what they have been supporting.

Would 26/11 do as a substitute?

Equally, of importance is that PMIK needs to show Kashmiris as Humans...and as Humans alone... and not bring in their muslimness..because the West is now subconsiously conditioned to have apathy for muslims and their causes... this is Critical.

Striking. Novel. Game-changing.

PMIK needs to have visiuals when he goes to UN.. giant posters... presentation... same as US did with WMD... only difference is that PMIK shall be telling the Truth.

This leaves lesser minds to the east of your border speechless. Fortunately so.

Again it is of vital importance that PakState/PMIK also raise voices for the Dalits...Christians... and Adiwasiz in the GangaDaesh... there are enough reports available... material is out there... but competence, creativity and innovation is required to Create a Universal Message.

There goes the last dedicated employment for poor Christians in Pakistan.

Lastly, what PMIK needs to do..and do it protno... is with us against us... speech at the UN.

You do realise that this is NaMo and Amit Shah's dearest wish?

He needs to make the West responsible for GangaDaesh genocide by GangaNazis if they don't act and stop it....

Perhaps a Security Council Resolution?

We can take the Ganguz to cleaners... but we need people unlike SQM.

Maleeha Lodhi!

Also, Eurpean Court of Human Rights is a right venue to force European governmets from dealing with GangaNazis... report of UN on War Crimes by ganguz in Kashmir is enough!

It is unhappy that there has been such a lack of sympathetic understanding in international courts of a perfectly understandable point of view of late. But to quote the motto of the local military formation in my part of the world, Bash On Regardless.

But then it all depends on nerves, committment and consistency of PakState.

Choice = Accept gangu hegemony and Kashmir annexation OR fight back on all fronts.

An EXCELLENT choice! Please beg your fellow Dutchmen and women to stick to it.

And I must confess I have used this 'opportunity' to expose the whole ummah pipedream. It stands as exposed as I was the day I gasped my first gulp of air.

You belong to a more elevated platform, honestly. I say this with humility and imbued with a spirit of unstinted admiration. Other than Niaz Sahib (another idol of mine has decided that he is to be seen in multiple avatars), there is nobody else I look forward to reading.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

What exactly did you expect the Chinese to do? Do another 1962 on you guys. The Chinese have made a robust stand and I am sure FM SMQ will be very pleased with this. We all agree that war is not a solution. In the given circumstances this issue needs to be 'shouted' at every opportunity. If the Kashmiri insurgency get's a further fillip then India will struggle to paint it as terrorism.

Pakistan should work toward -

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• raising the Kashmiri struggle as a indigenous rights movement against a external oppressor India. I certainly think what India has done will now help this narrative. For Pakistan the goal should be Timor Leste.
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• to do this Pakistan needs to leverage it's friends in international fora to make a ruckus about it. Arguably the ummah has been exposed as a Pakistani fairy tale. Hoping that now the Pakistani state [it was heartening to see SMQ accept that there is no ummah publicly] and people wake up to the reality of profit/loss in international relations.
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• a robust posture with India. No pretends about desi, we all same, Bolly dancing feel good dreams. Pakistan is Pakistan. Lock the border and build a united strong Pakistan. A mighty federation of the peoples of Indus.
  
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• focus on education, economy. That is what will help the Kashmiri's in the long run. A strong, prosperous Pakistan.
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• a strong international media drive to grab the global narrative on Kashmir which should be "Indian oppressors, Kashmiri victims". I am glad thanks to PMIK strong profile across the globe papers like Le Monde [traditionally pro India], WSJ etc are begining to give apologetic coverage to occupied Kashmir.

The solution to Kashmir now is going to be through, slow, deliberate, patient actions. There was a time for fast, muscular action but that was blown by Pakistan way back in 1947 and 1962.

@Mangus Ortus Novem

One more thing we have to do i.e throw India out of Afghanistan asap

 

[Joe Shearer]

And I must confess I have used this 'opportunity' to expose the whole ummah pipedream. It stands as exposed as I was the day I gasped my first gulp of air.

Please take my gentle humour as a reaction to the tidal wave of enthusiasm for the Indian government's recent steps, and total lack of understanding of the fundamental harm caused to my nation, that I encounter elsewhere.

One more thing we have to do i.e throw India out of Afghanistan asap

<Gasp!>

Military intervention?

No, use other men as pawns; that is more your style.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

Please take my gentle humour as a reaction to the tidal wave of enthusiasm for the Indian government's recent steps, and total lack of understanding of the fundamental harm caused to my nation, that I encounter elsewhere.



<Gasp!>

Military intervention?

No, use other men as pawns; that is more your style.

Just to save our back

 

[TMA]

And I must confess I have used this 'opportunity' to expose the whole ummah pipedream. It stands as exposed as I was the day I gasped my first gulp of air.

Even before your first gulp unfortunately.

 

[B.K.N]

And I must confess I have used this 'opportunity' to expose the whole ummah pipedream. It stands as exposed as I was the day I gasped my first gulp of air.

True there isn't any ummah no Muslim country except Saudi Arabia has ever helped Pakistan they are providing jobs to pakistanis and they have bailed out Pakistan etc it was just khairat for poor Muslims from Rich Muslims
A Muslim country Afghanistan has always tried to harm Pakistan and another Muslim country Iran has many times threatened to invade Pakistan
Bengali muslims sided with Indians and fought against Pakistan in 1971

 

[Humble Analyst]

China has taken stance or used strict words on abrogation of article 370, if any, is bcz of its issue with india on Ladakh n Aksai chin not bcz it has some friendship fantasies with pakistan..

Just making the difference

Well that is a poor choice of words, people use every opportunity to improve things and here we are going the other way. We should not turn supporters into non supporters. It is understood that nations join hand for common causes. Everybody understands that.

One more thing we have to do i.e throw India out of Afghanistan asap

Let us do it tactfully

 

[Joe Shearer]

@Joe Shearer good to see you back, Herr Professor!

The Ugly Truth is that country formerly known as India was necessary on so many fronts... but the slow, at first, and faster later... take over of your beloved India by The Blue Elephant is WMD in itself.

No intention in hurting the good people of former India... so 'slur' is not directed at the collective but the select. Of coruse, a man of your intellect would be able to distinguish.

Please, stick around and keep doing your thing... good to have a counter narrative...

Very good health to you!

Mangus

Thank you for your very gracious answer. That element is irretrievably lost in discussions in my own country. I am now a Trappist in my conversation.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Pakistan etc it was just khairat for poor Muslims from Rich Muslims

What makes you think they [KSA] helped Pakistan because of being Muslim? KSA also helped USA. Was that because they [Americans] are also Muslim?

 

[B.K.N]

What makes you think they [KSA] helped Pakistan because of being Muslim? KSA also helped USA. Was that because they [Americans] are also Muslim?

I never said they helped pakistan for being Muslim I just said they have always helped Pakistan financially they are also helping Indians
It means Arabs are good people they help poors

 

[YeBeWarned]

We need all five members of unsc on our side.. if anyone of them vetos, the case will be lost forever.

you know its not possible , one way or another someone will VETO the UNSC resolution. ICJ jurisdiction is limited in this regard and UN General Assembly holds no practical Power .

 

[Indus Pakistan]

It means Arabs are good people they help poors

The Israeli's are also good people. They help the Indian 'poors'.

 

[B.K.N]

The Israeli's are also good people. They help the Indian 'poors'.

I never said Isrealis are good or bad but anyone who is helping a needy person is doing right thing
Americans are also helping Pakistan American helicopters helped Pakistanis in 2010 floods 2005 earthquake and are providing aid

 

[Joe Shearer]

you know its not possible , one way or another someone will VETO the UNSC resolution. ICJ jurisdiction is limited in this regard and UN General Assembly holds no practical Power .

Ummeed mein duniya chalti hai.