China plans to deploy J20 at Tibetan in 2018, India plans for the worst!

[Gessler]

Exercise is not equal to real air combat in real war.Said f22 was refrained maneuvering below certain attitude and some EWS was shut down for conservation. Who tell you J20 won't beagle to make supersonic cruise before 2018? Are you sure about that?

Both F-22 and Typhoon were fighting against the same odds back there. Plus
Typhoon has had many more drawbacks than F-22 in that exercise. It still
proves yours claims incorrect - any 4.5+ gen fighter is a fine challenge for any 5th
gen fighter. And in IAF v/s PLAAF case, we are likely to have the odds in
air combat to our favour as I have explained above.

Secondly, I don't see what prompted the Chinese to decide 6-7 years in advance
where they will deploy their supposed stealth fighter first?

 

[Ticker]

That's something Confidential.

Two ..... I hope I didn't break the confidentiality.

 

[JayAtl]

Why is there a 4 page thread when someone pull a comment out of their a##? Where is the article?

was that all Chinese article, under the OP comments not substantiating it? That's what at least I assumed

 

[Ticker]

what does that have to do with what I posted? I understand your need to be a perpetual fan but come on now..at least read the post before quoting it.

hmmm ..... you wouldn't know, would you.

 

[JayAtl]

hmmm ..... you wouldn't know, would you.

You are right, I was talking about apples and you asked the price of oranges

 

[ANPP]

Tibet is an integral part of china and technically India have nothing to do here. A strong powerful super power china is in the interest of S.asia , asia and the world as a whole. Hope they can deploy at least 2/3 ACs permanently in IOR in 15-20 years time The peaceful rise of china is welcome.

Abe tumhare school me HISTORY subject nhi hota kya YAA..............tere pas dimg hi nhi hai

 

[Varunastra]

deployment of J-20 will do much for ruining improving the relations between India and China .......stability and peace should be the main priority for both india and china

 

[Kloitra]

Why is there a 4 page thread when someone pull a comment out of their a##? Where is the article?

Cause it`s fun. Cant you feel everyone`s excitement!

Tian an men square was a tragedy back then, I'm sure you won't understand the pain every Chinese including me stand for that bloody night. France and German already sold us tank engines, helicopters and AIP tech, lift the sanction is just a matter time.

Why the need to lift the sanctions? Isn`t what China making on par/better than others?!

Testing, production, infra development, training, all done. Most squadrons placed along eastern coast. Than some placed on south east. All within 6 years. And I am Santa Clause.

 

[perplexed]

If china places J20 in tibet, we will forego no first use policy and start launching them in random directions in random range..

 

[Sergi]

India will face transition predicament if J20 deployment in Tibetan earlier than FGFA, Rafale or FGFA won't be able to make it sufficient to counter no matter by quantity or quanlity.

Buddy there isn't any RELIBLE information about quality or quantity from PLA ever. Atleast we know a lot of things about Rafale and FGFA. Then how can you say J-20 ( yet in prototype) will be /is better than these birds. Nationalism ??? Be realistic you can't compare as you don't know what are strong or weak point of J-20. Nobody will ever know unless there is war. Which I doubt


Even if china inducted the J-20 as early as 2016 India will definatly go for couple of SQU of PAK-FA on fast track that's good too

 

[Type 052D]

Buddy there isn't any RELIBLE information about quality or quantity from PLA ever. Atleast we know a lot of things about Rafale and FGFA. Then how can you say J-20 ( yet in prototype) will be /is better than these birds. Nationalism ??? Be realistic you can't compare as you don't know what are strong or weak point of J-20. Nobody will ever know unless there is war. Which I doubt

Buddy there isn't any RELIBLE information about quality or quantity from PLA ever. Atleast we know a lot of things about Rafale and FGFA. Then how can you say J-20 ( yet in prototype) will be /is better than these birds. Nationalism ??? Be realistic you can't compare as you don't know what are strong or weak point of J-20. Nobody will ever know unless there is war. Which I doubt


Even if china inducted the J-20 as early as 2016 India will definatly go for couple of SQU of PAK-FA on fast track that's good too

New J-10B with F-16 Viper style upgrade

What the Chinese here don't seem to get and wrongly assume that the rest of us are suspect of their claims just because- is that it is based on facts.


let me try these examples:

1.the Indian super sukhoi- everyone knows it capability, all its avionics and capabilities have been bench-marked by many countries on the world market. It's no secret... the Russian tech, isreali tech is all open to be bench marked by many countries.

2.Then we all agree that Russians are way advanced in their military hardware for decades and decades now, but somehow we are told to take China's word that just started their hardware build up a decade or so but is more advanced than the Russian capabilities. That Russian tech exported all over the world is not up to Chinese standards because " Chinese say so"

3. Somehow India having access to the all of the world's best , while china not having access to legally purchase it- means China's non bench marked capability is far superior.


Makes no sense- We are not, at least I'm not suspect of Chinese hardware because I just feel like it. It is based on facts and the realities on the ground. Just because you have fan boys here in Pakistanis and Bangladeshi's does not lend any credence to propaganda over facts.

ASEA radar upgrade

with WS-10 engine

 

[Ammyy]

At least you should pay due respect, Chinese always make it faster than you think.

you can make it fast but not as per world standard.... no one want to buy your guddies ... not even on loan...

you can only sell russian jets with your name

 

[Sergi]

^^^
Buddy specification doesn't mean IMAGES.
Suppose LCA results would have been kept secrate then I too would have posted such image and said hey it's better than XYZ. But it's not case with us. I doubt you would be able to give detail of any of these things. So we can't camare it with XYZ.
You can say AESA radar but do you know the detection range and modules used ??? Are they tested with good results. Those are the things we won't know here. So no point in comparing

 

[Tshering22]

Now that, is a true warmongering report.

But yes, it also allows our ministers not to end up sleeping.

I really hope that our western flank is strengthened. There are still 3 needlepoints in this conflict and only one is fortified. With 2014 and change in regime, even that will be toughened. Our western flank is well covered. The same will happen with the east.

But judging by the tensions in East Asia, I have a feeling that the Commies might end up with a war in East Asia much before 2018 rather than here where the chances are as remote as finding a McDonalds in the middle of Himalayas.

 

[vk17]

j- 20 will soon be operational as world knows its under table deal of Mig 1.44 stealth aircraft,

Russians never open all their cards at a time, they do sell complex technologies to China for huge amounts but under the table only!!!

Otherwise Russian aren't that foolish that they would keep exporting their latest technology to China even knowing that Chinese are reverse engineering them!!

Chinese are not that smart as they pretend to be!! If it was so easy to reverse engineer, world would have been different place!

Varyag class AC is also reported to be handed over to China only after Russian help just using Ukrainian face!!

Nobody in this world is so foolish to believe that Ukraine would sell AC to China for making museum, sell a AC to a country who was denied by most part of the world to gain this technology and was dying like hell to get this technology!!

Chinese, Ukrainain and Russian want the world to believe what is not true!!