China plans proxy war against India with support of northeast militant groups

[beijingwalker]

And you think promoting separatism in India wouldn't harm China in the long term? These things almost always backfire badly.

Think about it.

Your country has at least 11 million Uighurs, although some organizations say that there are at least 15 million Uighurs in China. Almost all of them live in one of the most remote and rugged regions of China. To make matters worse, the birthrate of the Uighurs is much higher than that of the Han Chinese. Han China is currently facing an aging population and manpower shortages. The Chinese government is desperately looking for ways to replace workers with robots or encourage overseas Chinese people to return to their country. It's also beginning to attract Han Chinese settlers from remote parts of China (e.g. Xinjiang) to move back to the coastal eastern regions in order to compensate the manpower shortages and fill up the many ghost cities.

China has a lot of problems, but the censorship in your country plays a huge role in giving outsiders the impression that everything's fine and dandy.

You also have to deal with, potentially, thousands upon thousands of radical Uighur jihadists who are currently living in Syria along with their wives and breeding like rabbits. Unlike India, which is geographically protected by huge mountain ranges and has direct access to the open seas, China is geographically protected by desert regions to the west and choked by a chain of islands to its east and southeast. That explains why China is trying everything in its power to break through the South China Sea, since it knows very well that it can be choked by hostile countries such as Japan if those island chains don't fall under Beijing's direct control.

Why the heck would China risk starting problems with India while it knows that the US/West and Japan are looking for practically any excuse to go against (and isolate) Beijing?

The separatism situation in China is much, much worse than it is in India. Tibet is only peaceful right now because India and the US haven't decided to destabilize it yet. And Xinjiang can very easily turn into another Central Asian jihadist hellhole.

It would be very unwise for China to play with fire.

Instead, China and India should become more cooperative and ensure that the 21st century becomes the Asian century. Promoting separatists in neighboring countries will backfire on China very quickly.

India has enough manpower to fight long wars for the next 50 years due to its rapidly growing population. China's era of rapid population growth is over. Your country can't afford perpetual warfare.

A little bit of wisdom and humility would be nice.

We manage Xinjiang very well, much better than India manages any inch of their land, come to Xinjiang and check it out and see it for yourself.

 

[Tshering22]

Instead, China and India should become more cooperative and ensure that the 21st century becomes the Asian century. Promoting separatists in neighboring countries will backfire on China very quickly.

The communists have a very simple policy; shoot first and ask questions later.

The PLA is not allowed to read newspapers or have political views. And only recently China eased its conscription laws.

They won't hesitate to wipe out entire towns of Uyighurs, unlike in India where media actually shows everything from a single stone thrown to a drunk bar brawl of some celebrities.

China doesn't really understand that cooperating with India is its biggest opportunity to wipe out terror permanently from Asia.

 

[beijingwalker]

We find Chinese weapons in India all the time.

You will find US weapon everywhere on this planet.

 

[Srinivas]

what is an indian doing on a pakistani defence forum ???

sad people

this is a public forum and any one can discuss their own country's issues.

 

[beijingwalker]

The communists have a very simple policy; shoot first and ask questions later.

The PLA is not allowed to read newspapers or have political views. And only recently China eased its conscription laws.

They won't hesitate to wipe out entire towns of Uyighurs, unlike in India where media actually shows everything from a single stone thrown to a drunk bar brawl of some celebrities.

China doesn't really understand that cooperating with India is its biggest opportunity to wipe out terror permanently from Asia.

Do you what you are talking about? every Chinese at least owns one cellphone, whatever happens everywhere someond will put it on social media apps weibo or weixin the very next moment, and then it will spread like wild fire. China is light year ahead of India when it comes to getting access to the internet and information.

 

[Tshering22]

You are hosting an anti China exile government, we don't have an anti India exile government operation in China.

Really?

Khaplang's leader daily threatens us from Yunnan. Research about Anthony Shimray.

ULFA recently issued threats from China as Myanmar and Bhutan helped us wipe out their menace from our territory.

The only "dangerous" thing this government does is meditate, sell Tibetan artifacts to tourists, educate little kids and remain happy in a small hilly town in a corner of the Himalayas.

Not train hoards of self-exploding brainwashed lunatics to kill innocent Chinese citizens.

 

[beijingwalker]

Really?

Khaplang's leader daily threatens us from Yunnan. Research about Anthony Shimray.

ULFA recently issued threats from China as Myanmar and Bhutan helped us wipe out their menace from our territory.

The only "dangerous" thing this government does is meditate, sell Tibetan artifacts to tourists, educate little kids and remain happy in a small hilly town in a corner of the Himalayas.

Not train hoards of self-exploding brainwashed lunatics to kill innocent Chinese citizens.

Do they have a government openly operating in China representing their "country"?

 

[Tshering22]

Do you what you are talking about? every Chinese at least owns one cellphone, whatever happens everywhere some will put it on social media apps weibo or weixin , and then it will spread like wild fire. China is light year ahead of India when it comes to getting access to the internet and information.

Only after being approved by the state. Come on son, we know what is shown in your country has limits. What you see is what your government wants you to know.

This isn't about owning a cellphone. It is about what is allowed beyond the Chinese government's approval.

Do they have a government openly operating in China representing their "country"?

You have their territory. They have come to live with that fact. How many Chinese have died due to suicidal Tibetan terrorists?

Compare that to the weapons that you supply to ULFA and NSCM and NSCN who kill dozens of our soldiers and innocent civilians.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

We manage Xinjiang very well, much better than India manages any inch of their land, come to Xinjiang and check it out and see it for yourself.

Actually, you're not managing it properly.

Xinjiang is currently being suppressed by Han Chinese settlers, but the irony is that Beijing now wants some of these settlers to move back to eastern China since the country is beginning to experience manpower shortages and an aging population.

Xinjiang is huge, mostly uninhabitable, rugged and very hostile. It's a ticking time bomb, and it'll go off very badly once the thousands of Uighur jihadists in Syria decide to return to their homeland to wage "jihad" against Beijing.

You should be grateful that India isn't promoting these separatists, otherwise they'd be even stronger in Xinjiang right now.

But if China is foolish or naive enough to think that it can promote separatism in India and not experience any repercussions, then it will one day wake up and discover that many parts of its country have become rebellious and violent.

If China's neighbors fragment, then China will also fragment. Uncle Sam would absolutely love it. A third of China consists of Tibet, Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang. All three areas can become hostile battlegrounds for Beijing.

This is why China needs to cooperate with all its neighbors, including India. Trying to mess with your neighbors will push many of them towards America, which is dying for an excuse to demonize China and break it up like it did to the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia.

 

[beijingwalker]

Only after being approved by the state. Come on son, we know what is shown in your country has limits. What you see is what your government wants you to know.

This isn't about owning a cellphone. It is about what is allowed beyond the Chinese government's approval.

Weixin moments doesn't have prior approval policy, you know nothing about what you are trying to talk about.

 

[Tshering22]

Weixin moments doesn't have prior approval policy, you know nothing about what you are trying to talk about.

Suit yourself.

If denying it and accusing me of lying keeps you alive and from being taken away by the authorities, I am happy to help you for your family.

 

[beijingwalker]

Actually, you're not managing it properly.

Xinjiang is currently being suppressed by Han Chinese settlers, but the irony is that Beijing now wants some of these settlers to move back to eastern China since the country is beginning to experience manpower shortages and an aging population.

Xinjiang is huge, mostly uninhabitable, rugged and very hostile. It's a ticking time bomb, and it'll go off very badly once the thousands of Uighur jihadists in Syria decide to return to their homeland to wage "jihad" against Beijing.

You should be grateful that India isn't promoting these separatists, otherwise they'd be even stronger in Xinjiang right now.

But if China is foolish or naive enough to think that it can promote separatism in India and not experience any repercussions, then it will one day wake up and discover that many parts of its country have become rebellious and violent.

If China's neighbors fragment, then China will also fragment. Uncle Sam would absolutely love it. A third of China consists of Tibet, Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang. All three areas can become hostile battlegrounds for Beijing.

This is why China needs to cooperate with all its neighbors, including India. Trying to mess with your neighbors will push many of them towards America, which is dying for an excuse to demonize China and break it up like it did to the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia.

LOL, Who can break up China in today's world? not even US. YOU know nothing ,come to China and check it oout you will know.

Suit yourself.

If denying it and accusing me of lying keeps you alive and from being taken away by the authorities, I am happy to help you for your family.

I am talking about the facts. I don't try to talk about anything I don't really know like what you are doing. how much do you know China?

You have their territory. They have come to live with that fact. How many Chinese have died due to suicidal Tibetan terrorists?

Compare that to the weapons that you supply to ULFA and NSCM and NSCN who kill dozens of our soldiers and innocent civilians.

You have many people's land that's why you have so many insurgency groups, but still ,we don't have their exile governments operating openly in China.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

LOL, Who can break up China in today's world? not even US. YOU know nothing ,come to China and check it oout you will know.

Like I said, the wisest thing for China to do in this day and age is cooperate with India and make the 21st century the Asian century.

A proxy conflict between China and India will end up backfiring badly on Beijing because that's exactly the excuse the US/West is looking for to isolate China from the rest of the world and destroy your country's attempt to become the largest economy by 2030.

This is why I said on the previous page that a little bit of wisdom and humility would be nice.

China isn't unbreakable. China has been broken many times throughout its history. It can also be broken up in the future if Beijing doesn't act wisely.

The 21st century should be an era of cooperation between the two most populous countries on earth: China and India. Together, both countries can shift the global balance of power away from the West and towards Asia / the East.

Failure to cooperate, and any stupid action that leads to a perpetual proxy conflict between both countries, will simply lead to the destruction of the Asian Century dream.

China, like every other country, has weak points. And one of its weakest points happens to be its buffer zones (i.e. the autonomous regions of Tibet, Xinijang and Inner Mongolia), all 3 of which are inhabited by non-Han minorities that are prone to separatist sentiment and militancy should any foreign entity successfully approach and sponsor them.

It's very simple. Don't mess with your neighbor's backyard and your neighbor won't mess with your backyard.

 

[randomradio]

You will find US weapon everywhere on this planet.

But not in India.

In India you only find Pak and Chinese weapons.

 

[Max]

ETIM is a jihadi movement which has its training base in your northern parts of the country.

They never have training bases there, they were armed and harboured in Afghanistan by northern alliance in 90's, they enter in our soil when Fata was under TTP, now FATA is under state control and chinese leadership praised Pakistan for successful elimination of ETIM scums who were also involved in act of terrorism against Pakistan.

We have nothing to do with jihadi movements.

not so sure about Jihadis with TTP link, but you are certainly behind a separatist monk.

 

[StraightShooter]

You are hosting an anti China exile government, we don't have an anti India exile government operation in China.

Did India invite them to remain in exile? Tibetans were forced by China to remain in exile.

India is the home of Dharmic religions including Buddhism and it is obligated to provide asylum to the Buddhists of Tibet who are forced to leave their land.

May be you do not know, India has been providing home to Zoroastrians (Vedic people) from Persia for centuries now as they were forced out by the Islamic armies from Arabia.

On the other hand Uighurs would look at Central Asia for help rather than India. It is only natural.