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China planning 10 aircraft carriers, we need at least 3: Indian Navy Chief

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Raising an alarm over the ongoing expansion of the Chinese Navy that will rapidly add warships to its fleet in the next decade, navy chief Admiral Karambir Singh said India requires at least three aircraft carriers to meet operational needs in the region.

Strongly advocating the addition of another aircraft carrier to the Indian fleet—the only operating carrier currently is the INS Vikramaditya while an indigenous carrier is under construction at Kochi—the officer said China is projected to operate up to 10 of the warships by 2049.

The navy chief’s comments come as a formal proposal to start work on the third aircraft carrier—planned to be the largest ever warship to be made in India—have not found favour with the defence ministry that has reservations on the funds required for the project.

“Our overall strategy is centred around the operation of Carrier Task Groups supported by multi-dimensional, state-of-the-art surface and air platforms… an aircraft carrier is central to INs operating philosophy… accordingly, we are pursuing induction of the third carrier to ensure we have the requisite force levels to meet all operational imperatives,” the navy chief has said in his first detailed comments on the stalled project.

As reported by ET, the Indian Navy is homing in on electric propulsion for a planned future aircraft carrier, with a hybrid system likely to be considered for development, most likely in partnership with a US-based partner. As per preliminary design plans, the ship would displace 65,000 tons and would be of the CATOBAR (catapult assisted take off but arrested recovery) type.

The navy chief referred to an increasing Chinese Navy presence in the Indian Ocean Region as well as its plans to expand forces to drive home the point that a third aircraft carrier is of urgent need. “It is pertinent to mention that the PLA(N) (Peoples Liberation Army Navy) is projected to have a force level of five to six aircraft carriers within the next decade and up to 10 carriers by 2049,” he said.

The defence ministry has been going slow on what some consider a prohibitively expensive naval programme, with officials suggesting optimal utilisation of resources for other critical purchases, like submarines and advanced frigates. By conservative estimates, the cost of construction of the carrier itself, without the aircraft, would exceed Rs 70,000 crore.




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The navy, however, is certain that the way of the future is to operate aircraft carrier battle groups that can project power. The logic is that a third carrier is needed to ensure that at least two are at sea at any given point. The INS Vikramaditya is based at Karwar while the indigenous INS Vikrant that is under construction will be based at Visakhapatnam. The third carrier would be rotated around whenever one of these is in refit or in need for repairs.

The navy chief also pointed to a power competition for the maritime domain, referring to the increase in Chinese force levels to match the US that uses carriers as its main weapon to project power worldwide. “The ongoing crisis in the straits of Hormuz, confrontations in the South China Sea and increasing use of naval platforms for political signalling are unmistakable fallouts of the great power competition in the maritime domain,” Admiral Singh said.
 
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https://defenceforum.in/t/china-planning-10-aircraft-carriers-we-need-at-least-3-navy-chief/770

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Raising an alarm over the ongoing expansion of the Chinese Navy that will rapidly add warships to its fleet in the next decade, navy chief Admiral Karambir Singh said India requires at least three aircraft carriers to meet operational needs in the region.

Strongly advocating the addition of another aircraft carrier to the Indian fleet—the only operating carrier currently is the INS Vikramaditya while an indigenous carrier is under construction at Kochi—the officer said China is projected to operate up to 10 of the warships by 2049.

The navy chief’s comments come as a formal proposal to start work on the third aircraft carrier—planned to be the largest ever warship to be made in India—have not found favour with the defence ministry that has reservations on the funds required for the project.

“Our overall strategy is centred around the operation of Carrier Task Groups supported by multi-dimensional, state-of-the-art surface and air platforms… an aircraft carrier is central to INs operating philosophy… accordingly, we are pursuing induction of the third carrier to ensure we have the requisite force levels to meet all operational imperatives,” the navy chief has said in his first detailed comments on the stalled project.

As reported by ET, the Indian Navy is homing in on electric propulsion for a planned future aircraft carrier, with a hybrid system likely to be considered for development, most likely in partnership with a US-based partner. As per preliminary design plans, the ship would displace 65,000 tons and would be of the CATOBAR (catapult assisted take off but arrested recovery) type.

The navy chief referred to an increasing Chinese Navy presence in the Indian Ocean Region as well as its plans to expand forces to drive home the point that a third aircraft carrier is of urgent need. “It is pertinent to mention that the PLA(N) (Peoples Liberation Army Navy) is projected to have a force level of five to six aircraft carriers within the next decade and up to 10 carriers by 2049,” he said.

The defence ministry has been going slow on what some consider a prohibitively expensive naval programme, with officials suggesting optimal utilisation of resources for other critical purchases, like submarines and advanced frigates. By conservative estimates, the cost of construction of the carrier itself, without the aircraft, would exceed Rs 70,000 crore.




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The navy, however, is certain that the way of the future is to operate aircraft carrier battle groups that can project power. The logic is that a third carrier is needed to ensure that at least two are at sea at any given point. The INS Vikramaditya is based at Karwar while the indigenous INS Vikrant that is under construction will be based at Visakhapatnam. The third carrier would be rotated around whenever one of these is in refit or in need for repairs.

The navy chief also pointed to a power competition for the maritime domain, referring to the increase in Chinese force levels to match the US that uses carriers as its main weapon to project power worldwide. “The ongoing crisis in the straits of Hormuz, confrontations in the South China Sea and increasing use of naval platforms for political signalling are unmistakable fallouts of the great power competition in the maritime domain,” Admiral Singh said.
No China is not going to build 10 AC but 5-6 at max, this figure is just false assumption of some self proclaimed defense experts @Furious
 
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No China is not going to build 10 AC but 5-6 at max, this figure is just false assumption of some self proclaimed defense experts @Furious
China have plans for 6 by 2030. One can assume safely that they will go for 10 by 2050. Doesnt seem unreasonable.
 
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China have plans for 6 by 2030. One can assume safely that they will go for 10 by 2050. Doesnt seem unreasonable.
Just assumptions of someone no one sure that China want 10 AC, they want 5-6 AC to secure indo-pacific interest of China, why someone thinks that they want 10 AC to rule the world just like USA is doing currently @Furious
 
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Just assumptions of someone no one sure that China want 10 AC, they want 5-6 AC to secure indo-pacific interest of China, why someone thinks that they want 10 AC to rule the world just like USA is doing currently @Furious
Because if you study China's white paper, they clearly have global ambitions. Why are you gung ho on the specific number of 10 given by the chief. Its his analysis. And the rate at which China is making there is no doubt they will make more, especially when they get better with aircraft carrier technology. The have money, manpower, tech and ambitions. I am surprised you think China doesnt have global ambitions. o_Oo_Oo_O
 
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Because if you study China's white paper, they clearly have global ambitions. Why are you gung ho on the specific number of 10 given by the chief. Its his analysis. And the rate at which China is making there is no doubt they will make more, especially when they get better with aircraft carrier technology. The have money, manpower, tech and ambitions. I am surprised you think China doesnt have global ambitions. o_Oo_Oo_O
No they are not expansionist like USA/UK in past, you called it regional ambitions, only in Africa/and Asia or somehow in South America @Furious
 
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For the price of a single carrier the size of HMS Queen Elizabeth with
We can get 6 brand new Baracuda class Submarines.
The Navy wants to spend 15 billion USD on a single carrier and it's air wing of 57 Fighters
This money is better utilized in plugging the gaps in other areas of navy like Submarines , minesweepers and multirole Helicopters
 
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It's a folly to try catch up with China, the IN is outgunned many times over now, and that gap continues to grow and will be massive in the future.
 
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It's a folly to try catch up with China, the IN is outgunned many times over now, and that gap continues to grow and will be massive in the future.
We don't need to match up with China on numbers but should enhance our capabilities to defend our waters. Even if China has 10 ACs, it would send 3-4 at best in case a full scale war ever blows out with India which is highly unlikely though

INS Vishal has been retired and we only have INS Vikramaditya operational at the moment. INS Vikrant is under construction and IAC-3 with 65k ton capacity is in the design phase which should suffice to protect our waters for the next 2-3 decades
 
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We don't need to match up with China on numbers but should enhance our capabilities to defend our waters. Even if China has 10 ACs, it would send 3-4 at best in case a full scale war ever blows out with India which is highly unlikely though

INS Vishal has been retired and we only have INS Vikramaditya operational at the moment. INS Vikrant is under construction and IAC-3 with 65k ton capacity is in the design phase which should suffice to protect our waters for the next 2-3 decades

Fair post.
 
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