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Posted on 16 September 2010

There is nothing new in the Pakistani-Chinese relationship. This relationship is not and has never been hyphenated with Delhi. Pakistan and China have been trading partners for at least 7000 years–when much of Asia, and all of Bharat (aka India) were jungle populated by hunter gatherer types chasing rabbits all day. Pakistanis of the Mehergarh Civilization were at the time building sophisticated towns and trading in goods and services with China.

Some Bharati analysts see the Chinese presence in Pakistan as a red flag (pun intended!). it is understandable that Bharati media faces a “eureka” moment in the face of an article written by Selig Harrison. What is amazing is that the Bharati intellegence and government officials are “astonished” that the Chinese are building roads, rail-lines and dams in Pakistan. Hardly news worth covering–but the amazement certainly does describe the condition of the Bharati intelligence services which apparently are dependent on the New York Times for developments in Pakistani Azad Kashmir. It is also very surprising that Bharati analysts “see” a Chinese interest in South Asia. Rupee News and the Pakistan Ledger has published multiple article on “The Chinese Subcontinent” where Beijing has made inroads into Nepal, Burma, Thailand, Lanka and Bangladesh. It should hardly come as a surprise that the Chinese are building roads and rails in Pakistan–but apparently it has come as a huge surprise to those who have blinders on.

Some analysts think that China is “challenging the status-quo in South Asia in collusive strategic facilitation by Pakistan”. In their mind “China has shifted the strategic focus from India’s borders with China-” to Azad Kashmir. Nothig could be further from the truth. Pakistan has been working with the Chinese to build Gwader and create a land route to China. One author described Selig Harrison’s sensationalism as an “unimpeachable sources in the United States”. Amazing but true.

Subhash Kapila is one such analyst who has woken up from a deep slumber ans sees “China in one quiet but swift stroke has changed the geopolitical and geostrategic equations in this critical region which borders China, India, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Tajikistan. The deployment of Chinese troops in this region even though for the ostensible purposes of infrastructural improvements of the “Karakoram Corridor” heralds a new phase of China flexing its muscles not only against India but more significantly against United States in the wider global context.

Ominously, China’s upgradation of the Karakoram Corridor on Pakistan’s behalf enables China’s strategic outreach to the North Arabian Sea and the Gulf. Building oil and gas pipelines through this Corridor significantly improve China’s military postures in Western Tibet and Xingjiang both against India and countering the NATO’s Eastward creep towards China’s peripheries. Notwithstanding that the Karakoram Corridor initially passes through disputed territory, China has gone ahead with this major project as the major portion traversing Pakistan gives a strategic advantage to China in not only in outflanking US embedment in Afghanistan but also places a strong “strategic pressure point” in China’s hand against the United States when coupled with Chinese naval presence at Gwadur Port in proximity of the Hormuz Straits.”

Either Kaplia has blinders on, or has been living in a cave for the past decade. In either case, the analysis is dated and provides nothing new in terms of strategy or goals. Bharat has to come to terms that Pakistan is an independent country, and unlike Bharat Islamabad has good relationships with all neighbors. Pakistan was intelligently able to settle her boundary disputes in the fifties and sixties, while Delhi is incapable of settling any of her borders. Delhi has border disputes with all her neighbors with no resolution in sight.

For Pakistan, Kashmir is a bilateral issue and there is no other issue with any other country. In settling the border dispute with China, Islamabad resolved the bone of contention and eliminated all friction with Beijing–a strategically adept move.

China’s upgradation of Karakoram Corridor enables it a strategic outreach by land to the North Arabian Sea and the Gulf. At Pakistan’s invitation China is also engaged in building feeder roads and bridges having a bearing on Pakistan Army’s operations against India in Ladakh. China does not accept Bharati control over Indian Occupied Kashmir–not even allowing visas to individuals hailing from those territories, and thus not recognizing their Indian nationality. On the other hand, it is building dams in Pakistani Kashmir–totally giving credence to Pakistan’s legal control of the state.

Kaplia correctly ***** the Chinese policy “China’s focused involvement in construction of a number of dams in this region for Pakistan enables China to reinforce its strategic signature and footprints in this disputed region and sending clear messages to India that China is sitting tightly in the region as a stakeholder courtesy Pakistan and buttressing Pakistan.

The United States needs to note that what we are witnessing today is the transformation of ‘Pakistan as a frontline state of United States strategy” to a newer incarnation as “Pakistan as a frontline state of China’s Grand Strategy’.”

Kaplia and others want to use the Chinese bogey to sell the snake oil of “building Bharat as a counterweight to China”. This line has very few takers in Washington today.

Kaplia grandstanding on a tempest in a teacup has profound advice for Bharat. “India has no other option but to take a serious note of these developments. But a greater call devolves on the United States to meet the evolving China challenge via Pakistan to US embedment in the Middle East.

China in terms of political and strategic signaling to its adversaries does not act impulsively and therefore the Chinese challenge of changing the strategic status-quo in South Asia has to be viewed as a well thought out and calibrated Chinese strategy to counteract what it perceives as growing reinforcing of the US-India Strategic Partnership.

These combined moves by China and Pakistan seemed to have been coincidently timed with the United States wavering commitments in Afghanistan and an India emasculated by strategic indecisiveness and lacking strategic audacity in tackling its military threats from China and Pakistan, both singly and jointly.”

There is more than a grain of truth in Kaplia’s self-assessment.

“Some may react to this Paper as sensationalizing a trivial issue involving Chinese assistance to Pakistan in upgradation of infrastructural development in its border regions. What must not be forgotten is that in such development trivia germinate the foundations of an enlarging China-Pakistan strategic nexus and collusiveness which is bound to generate reverberations amongst neighbors.

Some of the more salient facts of the situation arising from China’s increasing strategic obtrusiveness in Gilgit-Baltistan Region which need examination are as follows:

China political signaling to India on Kashmir by deploying its troops in *** and enlarging its profile in involvement of infrastructure development there is intended to send multiple political messages to India.

The foremost signal to India is that China would now harden its position on Kashmir as a disputed territory which would gladden Pakistan. It needs to be recalled that sometime in the 1990s China had shifted its hard stances of self-determination for Kashmir to one of virtual recognition of Kashmir as a de-facto part of India.

China had been signaling change from that earlier stance with its insistence to issue stapled visas to residents of Jammu and Kashmir State and the recent refusal of a visa to the Northern Army Commander on the plea that he commands the “disputed region”. China must consequently be asked by India as to how it is enlarging its stakes in a “disputed territory” by strategic obtrusiveness?

The second political message from China is that Jammu and Kashmir henceforth as a disputed territory in Chinese perceptions enables China to now interfere directly in the internal politics of Kashmir Valley in favor of secessionists. Evident of this was China inviting the Kashmiri secessionist leader Mirwaiz Farooq to China for discussions. One could expect greater Chinese interference in this field. One wonders as to how effectively Indian intelligence agencies are monitoring Chinese intelligence penetration of the Kashmir secessionist movement and linkages with Kashmiri secessionist leaders.

Politically, with such stances India should get the political message that China is an implacable adversary of India and no political space exists for any political reconciliation with China.

China may also be signaling India to lay off Tibet and not be tempted to dabble on Tibet affairs despite any growing Indian political clout i…

Military Implications for India Generated by China’s Involvement and Presence in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir

The military implications arising from China’s increasing profile in [Azad Kashmir] has again to be viewed at multiple levels, namely in the overall context of the China-India military stand-off along India’s long borders with China-Occupied Tibet, next in the context of India’s defence postures in Ladakh and finally in the context of a combined military threat by China and Pakistan.

In the overall context of the China-India military standoff along the India-China Occupied Tibet border, China getting fearful of India’s strengthened defensive postures in the North East in Arunachal Pradesh would by its present maneuvers in [Azad Kashmir] be able to trifurcate India’s military responses in the event of hostilities.

Further, China was most vulnerable militarily in its Western military deployment opposite India’s Ladakh region due to logistic limitations especially in terms of fuel supplies necessary to prosecute sizeable military operations against India. With the development of infrastructure in the Karakoram Corridor, and especially the oil pipelines, China’s oversized military deployments against India would now be strongly sustainable logistically.

In the context of India’s defence postures in Ladakh, the challenge of China’s growing presence in [Azad Kashmir] and its involvement in roads network emanating from the Karakoram Highway and running towards Skardu and other locations opposite Ladakh and Siachen Sectors opens up the possibilities of China outflanking Indian military deployments in Ladakh. In any future hostilities China could open a direct route to Leh along the Indus Valley without fighting India’s main defensive deployments opposite the Tibetan border. Such an outflanking move from the rear could unravel India’s entire defence posture in Ladakh.

Finally, in the context of a combined China-Pakistan military threat against India, China’s development of strategic infrastructure in the Gilgit-Baltistan region running eastwards towards Indian defenses in the Ladakh Sector would facilitate speedy and enlarged Pakistan Army deployments hithertofore limited by infrastructural inadequacies. This would enable the Pakistan Army to complement China’s main military offensives against Ladakh to the consequent military advantage of both. It could also facilitate China opening up a direct outflanking front against India by Chinese troops acting in concert with Pakistan Army.”

Kaplia in a limp article has tried to position the Pakistani relationship with China as a zero sum game with the USA. Nothing could be further from the truth. Pakistan is an ally of the US and a friend of China. Supporting China is a strategic objective for Pakistan. Assisting the US in Afghanistan is a goal mandated by local present day realities.

Briefly put, the implications of China’s military presence in Pakistani Kashmir have to be viewed through the prism of the overall United States-Pakistan relationship, the United States-China power games and the impact of both these on United States strategic postures in Afghanistan, Greater South West Asia and the global context.

Repeatedly emphasized in this Author’s Papers have been the strategic realities that if chips are down and Pakistan is forced to make a strategic choice between the United States and China, then Pakistan would unhesitatingly opt for China.

Kaplia further dramatizes the events with strange statements “By making available the Karakoram Corridor to China, Pakistan in effect has enabled China to offset America’s maritime superiority choking China at the strategic chokepoints that dot China’s energy lifelines from the Gulf to China.”

The next statement is comical and needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. “Pakistan in effect has therefore sided with the United States enemy and helped China in defeating American strategies to contain China’s rising military profile.

Taking off from the above is that in the ongoing United States-China power games Pakistan’s active assistance in enhancing the capacity of the Karakoram Corridor allows China to establish a meaningful and substantive strategic foothold in close proximity of the strategic Straits of Hormuz vital for American embedment in the Gulf Region andglobal energy supplies. Pakistan has therefore enabled force-multipliers to China against the United States when the Karakoram Corridor is coupled with Gwadur Port and Pakistan Navy bases on the Makran Coast.”

Kaplia has tried to drive a wedge between the US and Pakistan, angling for a Indo-US nexus against China–a notion that has been nixed by America as too expensive and not a value added exercise for Washington.

Kapli creates further drama with grandiose statements like “China with the ongoing joint moves with Pakistan is now in a position to outflank United States military presence in Afghanistan. Further, with such enhanced postures, China can be inclined to be less helpful in solution of the Afghanistan conflict. China’s military presence in areas adjoining Afghanistan is likely to be used as a strong leverage by China against the United States.”

Even Freshmen students of International Relations know that the US and China have decided to cooperate and have already defined their areas of influence. The US departure from Afghanistan beginning in 2011 and ending in 2014 may be giving deference to Chinese thinking, but the departure is mainly based on US interests.

Kaplia is “crying wolf’ in trying to create a US-China rift. Her efforts have been described as ‘chalking” to be washed away by the next rain. This is the monsoon season so the next rain may be sooner than tomorrow.

Kaplia’s comical rendition of the state of Asia is hollow. Kaplia states
“China’s overall strategy has been to force the United States to exit the Asia Pacific. Pakistan’s current strategy is to prompt and induce the United States exit from Afghanistan. While China may not succeed in forcing USA out of the Asia Pacific, Pakistan seems to be making headway in prompting USA to withdraw from Afghanistan. Such a strategic vacuum so caused leaves China in a dominating position in Greater South West Asia with its Pakistan satellite doing the spadework.”

Kaplia repeats the old cliche as if repetition will make it true. “In a case of reversed strategic irony, ‘Pakistan as a front-line state in United States strategy so far, would now emerge as China’s front-line state in Chinese Grand Strategy against the United States’.

It would be an understatement to maintain that both the United States and India have strategic concerns on the emerging China threat in Asia. However both the United States and India have been strategically coy and shying away from any mutual discussions on how to deal with the China threat.

The United States has been continuously engaged in adhering to a “Hedging Strategy on China”. India on the other hand has pulled wool over its eyes and shirks from identifying publicly that China is the prime and potent threat to India for reasons which need no elaboration to an informed audience.

Strategic imperatives would dictate that both the United States and India break out of their existing strategic shells and transparently discuss the emerging China Threat in Asia and how both these prominent democracies can effectively contain the China Threat.

The very transparent discussion of the China Threat between the United States and India could send appropriate political and strategic signals to China.

The onus is more on India to initiate such a dialogue with the United States. India must spell out to the United States as to what it expects from the United States in the event of Chinese Aggression against India. The American responses ensuing could then either way assist India’s national security establishment to craft integrated responses, independent self reliance or alternative power backing from other quarters.”

Kaplia tries to spell out what the US should be doing. Kaplia also tries to inform Delhi what to do.

“China and Pakistan have unceasingly been involved in joint crafting of initiatives and developments which strategically embarrass India. Pakistan’s de facto ceding of the Gilgit-Baltistan Region to China on whatever pretext, is a devious ploy to politically embed China as a stakeholder in the Kashmir dispute.

In terms of India’s national security context, the developments under way foretell the significant enhancement of China’s and Pakistan’s military operational capabilities against India.

The strengthening of the force-multiplication potential of the Karakoram Corridor by Pakistan is directly aimed at off-setting United States embedment in the Middle East and reduction of American leverages over Pakistan.

Pakistan is no longer a front-line state of US strategy. Pakistan is fast transforming into a front-line state of China’s Grand Strategy.”
(The author is an International Relations and Strategic Affairs analyst. He is the Consultant, Strategic Affairs with South Asia Analysis Group. Email: drsubhashkapila.007@gmail.com)

Subash Kaplia and others of the ilk have tried to create an issue where none exists. The Bharati camp is trying to create a demon out of China so that it can implant itself as an ally of the US. The “India as Counterweight” strategy” is dependent on creating a case for the emerging threat from China–where no such threat exists. Chinese cooperation with the Pakistanis is in the economic interests of both countries and the commercial interests of the region. These is no military angle to the construction of dams in Gilgit-Baltistan or the expansion of trade routes and rail links.

There is a valid realization in America that the US cannot reverse the course of events in Afghanistan and it is too late for Washington to try to influence Pakistan. Think Tanks have now come to grips with the reality that Pakistan holds the keys to peace and reconciliation in Kabul. Mr. Karzai was sent to Islamabad to facilitate this engagement. Gilles Dorronsoro of the Carnegie Institute clearly spells out the facts as he sees them–all roads to peace in Afghanistan lead through Islamabad.

◦The Taliban are too strong and the remaining players in Afghanistan will refuse to negotiate.
◦And even if Washington got what it wanted and high-level Taliban leaders were arrested, it would not kill the insurgency.
◦In fact, if Islamabad loses influence over the Afghan Taliban, it will be a loss for Washington.
◦Instead of trying to disconnect the Pakistani government from the Taliban, the United States should use the links to start talking. The United States must start using the situation to its own advantage. Gilles Dorronsoro of the Carnegie Institute

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Excellent article -- Yet another instance of the Irked Indian - one can understand the reaction of Indian friends, the article's tone certainly heaps contempt on the quality of analysis the author of the article thinks informs Indian readers.

However, to be fair, the Indian analysis piece the article refers to, particularly in the kind of effort a section of Indian intelligence and policy making sector have made to exploit the mistrust between Pakistan and US, has been less effective than they could have been -- and yet this has not given that segment cause to reconsider, a curiosity in itself - heaped much of the same contempt on the relationship Pakistan have developed with China, even as it has engaged the US to position Pakistani interests in a post NATO Afghanistan.
 
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^ Whatever makes our Pakistani neighbours feel happy. If Indians getting irked takes their minds off their problems of today and the fact that 7000 years back the area that is called Pakistan had towns and India did not provides some consolation for todays lack of parity between the 2 countries, then so be it ...
 
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China-Pakistan trade nexus irks India

Posted on 16 September 2010

There is nothing new in the Pakistani-Chinese relationship. This relationship is not and has never been hyphenated with Delhi. Pakistan and China have been trading partners for at least 7000 years–when much of Asia, and all of Bharat (aka India) were jungle populated by hunter gatherer types chasing rabbits all day. Pakistanis of the Mehergarh Civilization were at the time building sophisticated towns and trading in goods and services with China.

Some Bharati analysts see the Chinese presence in Pakistan as a red flag (pun intended!). it is understandable that Bharati media faces a “eureka” moment in the face of an article written by Selig Harrison. What is amazing is that the Bharati intellegence and government officials are “astonished” that the Chinese are building roads, rail-lines and dams in Pakistan. Hardly news worth covering–but the amazement certainly does describe the condition of the Bharati intelligence services which apparently are dependent on the New York Times for developments in Pakistani Azad Kashmir. It is also very surprising that Bharati analysts “see” a Chinese interest in South Asia. Rupee News and the Pakistan Ledger has published multiple article on “The Chinese Subcontinent” where Beijing has made inroads into Nepal, Burma, Thailand, Lanka and Bangladesh. It should hardly come as a surprise that the Chinese are building roads and rails in Pakistan–but apparently it has come as a huge surprise to those who have blinders on.

Some analysts think that China is “challenging the status-quo in South Asia in collusive strategic facilitation by Pakistan”. In their mind “China has shifted the strategic focus from India’s borders with China-” to Azad Kashmir. Nothig could be further from the truth. Pakistan has been working with the Chinese to build Gwader and create a land route to China. One author described Selig Harrison’s sensationalism as an “unimpeachable sources in the United States”. Amazing but true.

Subhash Kapila is one such analyst who has woken up from a deep slumber ans sees “China in one quiet but swift stroke has changed the geopolitical and geostrategic equations in this critical region which borders China, India, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Tajikistan. The deployment of Chinese troops in this region even though for the ostensible purposes of infrastructural improvements of the “Karakoram Corridor” heralds a new phase of China flexing its muscles not only against India but more significantly against United States in the wider global context.

Ominously, China’s upgradation of the Karakoram Corridor on Pakistan’s behalf enables China’s strategic outreach to the North Arabian Sea and the Gulf. Building oil and gas pipelines through this Corridor significantly improve China’s military postures in Western Tibet and Xingjiang both against India and countering the NATO’s Eastward creep towards China’s peripheries. Notwithstanding that the Karakoram Corridor initially passes through disputed territory, China has gone ahead with this major project as the major portion traversing Pakistan gives a strategic advantage to China in not only in outflanking US embedment in Afghanistan but also places a strong “strategic pressure point” in China’s hand against the United States when coupled with Chinese naval presence at Gwadur Port in proximity of the Hormuz Straits.”

Either Kaplia has blinders on, or has been living in a cave for the past decade. In either case, the analysis is dated and provides nothing new in terms of strategy or goals. Bharat has to come to terms that Pakistan is an independent country, and unlike Bharat Islamabad has good relationships with all neighbors. Pakistan was intelligently able to settle her boundary disputes in the fifties and sixties, while Delhi is incapable of settling any of her borders. Delhi has border disputes with all her neighbors with no resolution in sight.

For Pakistan, Kashmir is a bilateral issue and there is no other issue with any other country. In settling the border dispute with China, Islamabad resolved the bone of contention and eliminated all friction with Beijing–a strategically adept move.

China’s upgradation of Karakoram Corridor enables it a strategic outreach by land to the North Arabian Sea and the Gulf. At Pakistan’s invitation China is also engaged in building feeder roads and bridges having a bearing on Pakistan Army’s operations against India in Ladakh. China does not accept Bharati control over Indian Occupied Kashmir–not even allowing visas to individuals hailing from those territories, and thus not recognizing their Indian nationality. On the other hand, it is building dams in Pakistani Kashmir–totally giving credence to Pakistan’s legal control of the state.

Kaplia correctly ***** the Chinese policy “China’s focused involvement in construction of a number of dams in this region for Pakistan enables China to reinforce its strategic signature and footprints in this disputed region and sending clear messages to India that China is sitting tightly in the region as a stakeholder courtesy Pakistan and buttressing Pakistan.

The United States needs to note that what we are witnessing today is the transformation of ‘Pakistan as a frontline state of United States strategy” to a newer incarnation as “Pakistan as a frontline state of China’s Grand Strategy’.”

Kaplia and others want to use the Chinese bogey to sell the snake oil of “building Bharat as a counterweight to China”. This line has very few takers in Washington today.

Kaplia grandstanding on a tempest in a teacup has profound advice for Bharat. “India has no other option but to take a serious note of these developments. But a greater call devolves on the United States to meet the evolving China challenge via Pakistan to US embedment in the Middle East.

China in terms of political and strategic signaling to its adversaries does not act impulsively and therefore the Chinese challenge of changing the strategic status-quo in South Asia has to be viewed as a well thought out and calibrated Chinese strategy to counteract what it perceives as growing reinforcing of the US-India Strategic Partnership.

These combined moves by China and Pakistan seemed to have been coincidently timed with the United States wavering commitments in Afghanistan and an India emasculated by strategic indecisiveness and lacking strategic audacity in tackling its military threats from China and Pakistan, both singly and jointly.”

There is more than a grain of truth in Kaplia’s self-assessment.

“Some may react to this Paper as sensationalizing a trivial issue involving Chinese assistance to Pakistan in upgradation of infrastructural development in its border regions. What must not be forgotten is that in such development trivia germinate the foundations of an enlarging China-Pakistan strategic nexus and collusiveness which is bound to generate reverberations amongst neighbors.

Some of the more salient facts of the situation arising from China’s increasing strategic obtrusiveness in Gilgit-Baltistan Region which need examination are as follows:

China political signaling to India on Kashmir by deploying its troops in *** and enlarging its profile in involvement of infrastructure development there is intended to send multiple political messages to India.

The foremost signal to India is that China would now harden its position on Kashmir as a disputed territory which would gladden Pakistan. It needs to be recalled that sometime in the 1990s China had shifted its hard stances of self-determination for Kashmir to one of virtual recognition of Kashmir as a de-facto part of India.

China had been signaling change from that earlier stance with its insistence to issue stapled visas to residents of Jammu and Kashmir State and the recent refusal of a visa to the Northern Army Commander on the plea that he commands the “disputed region”. China must consequently be asked by India as to how it is enlarging its stakes in a “disputed territory” by strategic obtrusiveness?

The second political message from China is that Jammu and Kashmir henceforth as a disputed territory in Chinese perceptions enables China to now interfere directly in the internal politics of Kashmir Valley in favor of secessionists. Evident of this was China inviting the Kashmiri secessionist leader Mirwaiz Farooq to China for discussions. One could expect greater Chinese interference in this field. One wonders as to how effectively Indian intelligence agencies are monitoring Chinese intelligence penetration of the Kashmir secessionist movement and linkages with Kashmiri secessionist leaders.

Politically, with such stances India should get the political message that China is an implacable adversary of India and no political space exists for any political reconciliation with China.

China may also be signaling India to lay off Tibet and not be tempted to dabble on Tibet affairs despite any growing Indian political clout i…

Military Implications for India Generated by China’s Involvement and Presence in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir

The military implications arising from China’s increasing profile in [Azad Kashmir] has again to be viewed at multiple levels, namely in the overall context of the China-India military stand-off along India’s long borders with China-Occupied Tibet, next in the context of India’s defence postures in Ladakh and finally in the context of a combined military threat by China and Pakistan.

In the overall context of the China-India military standoff along the India-China Occupied Tibet border, China getting fearful of India’s strengthened defensive postures in the North East in Arunachal Pradesh would by its present maneuvers in [Azad Kashmir] be able to trifurcate India’s military responses in the event of hostilities.

Further, China was most vulnerable militarily in its Western military deployment opposite India’s Ladakh region due to logistic limitations especially in terms of fuel supplies necessary to prosecute sizeable military operations against India. With the development of infrastructure in the Karakoram Corridor, and especially the oil pipelines, China’s oversized military deployments against India would now be strongly sustainable logistically.

In the context of India’s defence postures in Ladakh, the challenge of China’s growing presence in [Azad Kashmir] and its involvement in roads network emanating from the Karakoram Highway and running towards Skardu and other locations opposite Ladakh and Siachen Sectors opens up the possibilities of China outflanking Indian military deployments in Ladakh. In any future hostilities China could open a direct route to Leh along the Indus Valley without fighting India’s main defensive deployments opposite the Tibetan border. Such an outflanking move from the rear could unravel India’s entire defence posture in Ladakh.

Finally, in the context of a combined China-Pakistan military threat against India, China’s development of strategic infrastructure in the Gilgit-Baltistan region running eastwards towards Indian defenses in the Ladakh Sector would facilitate speedy and enlarged Pakistan Army deployments hithertofore limited by infrastructural inadequacies. This would enable the Pakistan Army to complement China’s main military offensives against Ladakh to the consequent military advantage of both. It could also facilitate China opening up a direct outflanking front against India by Chinese troops acting in concert with Pakistan Army.”

Kaplia in a limp article has tried to position the Pakistani relationship with China as a zero sum game with the USA. Nothing could be further from the truth. Pakistan is an ally of the US and a friend of China. Supporting China is a strategic objective for Pakistan. Assisting the US in Afghanistan is a goal mandated by local present day realities.

Briefly put, the implications of China’s military presence in Pakistani Kashmir have to be viewed through the prism of the overall United States-Pakistan relationship, the United States-China power games and the impact of both these on United States strategic postures in Afghanistan, Greater South West Asia and the global context.

Repeatedly emphasized in this Author’s Papers have been the strategic realities that if chips are down and Pakistan is forced to make a strategic choice between the United States and China, then Pakistan would unhesitatingly opt for China.

Kaplia further dramatizes the events with strange statements “By making available the Karakoram Corridor to China, Pakistan in effect has enabled China to offset America’s maritime superiority choking China at the strategic chokepoints that dot China’s energy lifelines from the Gulf to China.”

The next statement is comical and needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. “Pakistan in effect has therefore sided with the United States enemy and helped China in defeating American strategies to contain China’s rising military profile.

Taking off from the above is that in the ongoing United States-China power games Pakistan’s active assistance in enhancing the capacity of the Karakoram Corridor allows China to establish a meaningful and substantive strategic foothold in close proximity of the strategic Straits of Hormuz vital for American embedment in the Gulf Region andglobal energy supplies. Pakistan has therefore enabled force-multipliers to China against the United States when the Karakoram Corridor is coupled with Gwadur Port and Pakistan Navy bases on the Makran Coast.”

Kaplia has tried to drive a wedge between the US and Pakistan, angling for a Indo-US nexus against China–a notion that has been nixed by America as too expensive and not a value added exercise for Washington.

Kapli creates further drama with grandiose statements like “China with the ongoing joint moves with Pakistan is now in a position to outflank United States military presence in Afghanistan. Further, with such enhanced postures, China can be inclined to be less helpful in solution of the Afghanistan conflict. China’s military presence in areas adjoining Afghanistan is likely to be used as a strong leverage by China against the United States.”

Even Freshmen students of International Relations know that the US and China have decided to cooperate and have already defined their areas of influence. The US departure from Afghanistan beginning in 2011 and ending in 2014 may be giving deference to Chinese thinking, but the departure is mainly based on US interests.

Kaplia is “crying wolf’ in trying to create a US-China rift. Her efforts have been described as ‘chalking” to be washed away by the next rain. This is the monsoon season so the next rain may be sooner than tomorrow.

Kaplia’s comical rendition of the state of Asia is hollow. Kaplia states
“China’s overall strategy has been to force the United States to exit the Asia Pacific. Pakistan’s current strategy is to prompt and induce the United States exit from Afghanistan. While China may not succeed in forcing USA out of the Asia Pacific, Pakistan seems to be making headway in prompting USA to withdraw from Afghanistan. Such a strategic vacuum so caused leaves China in a dominating position in Greater South West Asia with its Pakistan satellite doing the spadework.”

Kaplia repeats the old cliche as if repetition will make it true. “In a case of reversed strategic irony, ‘Pakistan as a front-line state in United States strategy so far, would now emerge as China’s front-line state in Chinese Grand Strategy against the United States’.

It would be an understatement to maintain that both the United States and India have strategic concerns on the emerging China threat in Asia. However both the United States and India have been strategically coy and shying away from any mutual discussions on how to deal with the China threat.

The United States has been continuously engaged in adhering to a “Hedging Strategy on China”. India on the other hand has pulled wool over its eyes and shirks from identifying publicly that China is the prime and potent threat to India for reasons which need no elaboration to an informed audience.

Strategic imperatives would dictate that both the United States and India break out of their existing strategic shells and transparently discuss the emerging China Threat in Asia and how both these prominent democracies can effectively contain the China Threat.

The very transparent discussion of the China Threat between the United States and India could send appropriate political and strategic signals to China.

The onus is more on India to initiate such a dialogue with the United States. India must spell out to the United States as to what it expects from the United States in the event of Chinese Aggression against India. The American responses ensuing could then either way assist India’s national security establishment to craft integrated responses, independent self reliance or alternative power backing from other quarters.”

Kaplia tries to spell out what the US should be doing. Kaplia also tries to inform Delhi what to do.

“China and Pakistan have unceasingly been involved in joint crafting of initiatives and developments which strategically embarrass India. Pakistan’s de facto ceding of the Gilgit-Baltistan Region to China on whatever pretext, is a devious ploy to politically embed China as a stakeholder in the Kashmir dispute.

In terms of India’s national security context, the developments under way foretell the significant enhancement of China’s and Pakistan’s military operational capabilities against India.

The strengthening of the force-multiplication potential of the Karakoram Corridor by Pakistan is directly aimed at off-setting United States embedment in the Middle East and reduction of American leverages over Pakistan.

Pakistan is no longer a front-line state of US strategy. Pakistan is fast transforming into a front-line state of China’s Grand Strategy.”
(The author is an International Relations and Strategic Affairs analyst. He is the Consultant, Strategic Affairs with South Asia Analysis Group. Email: drsubhashkapila.007@gmail.com)

Subash Kaplia and others of the ilk have tried to create an issue where none exists. The Bharati camp is trying to create a demon out of China so that it can implant itself as an ally of the US. The “India as Counterweight” strategy” is dependent on creating a case for the emerging threat from China–where no such threat exists. Chinese cooperation with the Pakistanis is in the economic interests of both countries and the commercial interests of the region. These is no military angle to the construction of dams in Gilgit-Baltistan or the expansion of trade routes and rail links.

There is a valid realization in America that the US cannot reverse the course of events in Afghanistan and it is too late for Washington to try to influence Pakistan. Think Tanks have now come to grips with the reality that Pakistan holds the keys to peace and reconciliation in Kabul. Mr. Karzai was sent to Islamabad to facilitate this engagement. Gilles Dorronsoro of the Carnegie Institute clearly spells out the facts as he sees them–all roads to peace in Afghanistan lead through Islamabad.

◦The Taliban are too strong and the remaining players in Afghanistan will refuse to negotiate.
◦And even if Washington got what it wanted and high-level Taliban leaders were arrested, it would not kill the insurgency.
◦In fact, if Islamabad loses influence over the Afghan Taliban, it will be a loss for Washington.
◦Instead of trying to disconnect the Pakistani government from the Taliban, the United States should use the links to start talking. The United States must start using the situation to its own advantage. Gilles Dorronsoro of the Carnegie Institute

China-Pakistan trade nexus irks India | Pakistan Patriot

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China cannot and will not replace US. US would be the only superpower for some time to come and don't expect US to give up that position that easy to China. No doubt, China would be one of the key player so would be US, European Union, and India in future, and, moreover, China would never do things that would jeopardize its relationship with India.
 
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Excellent article -- Yet another instance of the Irked Indian - one can understand the reaction of Indian friends, the article's tone certainly heaps contempt on the quality of analysis the author of the article thinks informs Indian readers.

However, to be fair, the Indian analysis piece the article refers to, particularly in the kind of effort a section of Indian intelligence and policy making sector have made to exploit the mistrust between Pakistan and US, has been less effective than they could have been -- and yet this has not given that segment cause to reconsider, a curiosity in itself - heaped much of the same contempt on the relationship Pakistan have developed with China, even as it has engaged the US to position Pakistani interests in a post NATO Afghanistan.


you could not have been more wrong!!!
i duunno why but i am getting an impression that u think TOI writes indi's policy which is completly off the mark.
 
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China cannot and will not replace US. US would be the only superpower for some time to come and don't expect US to give up that position that easy to China. No doubt, China would be one of the key player so would be US, European Union, and India in future, and, moreover, China would never do things that would jeopardize its relationship with India.

But we hear day and night here on forum Bhartis saying that India is going to replace US as super power in the making :angel:

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you could not have been more wrong!!!
i duunno why but i am getting an impression that u think TOI writes indi's policy which is completly off the mark.

TOI infact apart from one or two papers entire Indian media represents Orange mindset
 
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i duunno why but i am getting an impression that u think TOI writes indi's policy which is completly off the mark


Times of India do not write Indian policy - what I said was :
...the quality of analysis the author of the article thinks informs Indian readers.

Are Times of India readers informed by what they read in the pages of Times of India??


"The Irked Indian" -- Why Indian friends?, Why is that you guys are so easily "Irked"?? Where do you get of imagining that you are entitled to being "Irked"?? Where is this considered "confidence"?

But lets get back to the substance of the piece.
 
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Times of India do not write Indian policy - what I said was :

Are Times of India readers informed by what they read in the pages of Times of India??


"The Irked Indian" -- Why Indian friends?, Why is that you guys are so easily "Irked"?? Where do you get of imagining that you are entitled to being "Irked"?? Where is this considered "confidence"?

But lets get back to the substance of the piece.

Yeah, your exalted Eliteness can troll away but we should all get back to the substance of the piece! And if we try and refute any of the allegations, we are labeled as "Easily irked"!

Talking about monikers, how does "Conspiracy Theorist Pakistani" sound?
 
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Yeah, your exalted Eliteness can troll away but we should all get back to the substance of the piece! And if we try and refute any of the allegations, we are labeled as "Easily irked"!

Talking about monikers, how does "Conspiracy Theorist Pakistani" sound?

Don't worry the first line of this article itself points out the intellectual deficiency of the author if i have to say so to the person who has spewed this trash.
 
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Times of India do not write Indian policy - what I said was :

Are Times of India readers informed by what they read in the pages of Times of India??


"The Irked Indian" -- Why Indian friends?, Why is that you guys are so easily "Irked"?? Where do you get of imagining that you are entitled to being "Irked"?? Where is this considered "confidence"?

But lets get back to the substance of the piece.

We are not irked about truths like poverty etc etc which are truths indeed, however everybody would be irked when some so called expert writes about the intention of a country just because he hates it and has a pre conceived strong opinion on the country he writes.
 
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There is nothing new in the Pakistani-Chinese relationship. This relationship is not and has never been hyphenated with Delhi. Pakistan and China have been trading partners for at least 7000 years–when much of Asia, and all of Bharat (aka India) were jungle populated by hunter gatherer types chasing rabbits all day. Pakistanis of the Mehergarh Civilization were at the time building sophisticated towns and trading in goods and services with China.

this has lead me to beg to the writer
 
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