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China, Pakistan may counter any Indian disruption to CPEC: South Asia expert

It doesn't matter what you think. India consider G&B to be integral part of India. India will keep on objecting CPEC on the grounds that it passes through India's territory.

And people of GB consider India as oppressive, intolerant and terrorist state who has been terrorizing people of Kashmir since 1947.......People's willingness will be counted here and people of GB are having more tougher stance against India after seeing graphic content coming from Indian occupied Kashmir, tortured and terrorized face of innocent men, women and children.....

People of GB had already decided to ignore India when they joined Pakistan in 1947.......Isn't it? U can ask that if you want to confirm from members over here who belong to Gilgit Baltistan......

The constitution of Pakistan affirms that the political status of entire Jammu and Kashmir State shall be determined only after a plebiscite

GB also comes under Jammu and Kashmir? GB is part of it?
 
China itself will face and facing lots of opposition from Pakistanis immigrants in GB and Azad Kashmir

Why P_o_K automatically typed as Azad Kashmir? It's disputed territory as per UN resolution
 
In the first place, how can Pakistan build CPEC through G&B that it consider disputed? India has every right to intervene in this matter and will put pressure on China. Pakistanis should understand India is not against CPEC, but against it passing through G&B

How you consider it disputed when you don't consider IOK disputed? That is height of hypocrisy.
 
China itself will face and facing lots of opposition from Pakistanis immigrants in GB and Azad Kashmir

Why P_o_K automatically typed as Azad Kashmir? It's disputed territory as per UN resolution
I have not come across a low IQ post in a while but your post wins gold for it! What Pakistani immigrants in GB? and Azad Kashmir? indians love talking about parts of Pakistan they will never see and as for disputed territory it is only disputed when it suits you so dont tell us about calling Azad Kashmir, Azad.
 
GB also comes under Jammu and Kashmir? GB is part of it?



Under International Law, A state can intentionally acquire sovereignty over any such territory that is not under the sovereignty of another state. The occupied territory must have, been terra nullius, without owner, and the occupation must have been real or "effective." ... Effective occupation occurs when there is an announced intention to acquire the territory, and actual settlement or occupation with the assertion of governmental authority has taken place.


The British surrendered their lease on the eve of partition, the Gilgit region was a terra nullius. At the time of accession, under the August 1947 Standstill Agreement, Pakistan alone was responsible for administering services in Kashmir such as the post, telegraph and railways. These services were the beginning of Pakistan's establishment of government authority over the region. This process was completed after the territory was transferred to Pakistan by the Gilgit Scouts. Since this time, Pakistan has claimed the Gilgit region, formerly a terra nullius, as part of its territory, keeping it beyond the control of the Azad Kashmir authorities and making it an integral part of Pakistan. In doing so, Pakistan has established governmental control sufficient to provide security to life and property. Thus, Pakistan effectively occupies the Gilgit region to the exclusion of India.



Pakistan's claim on GB is legally valid and justified. However, if (and when) needed, Pakistan is ready to hold a referendum in GB as well.


As for the constitutional status of GB, it remains undefined
 
In the first place, how can Pakistan build CPEC through G&B that it consider disputed? India has every right to intervene in this matter and will put pressure on China. Pakistanis should understand India is not against CPEC, but against it passing through G&B
In The same way, u can build dams in J&K...and India should know Pak will continue to raise Kashmir issue and water issue on all the platforms...n it will continue to make Modi going berserk n issuing foolish statements.
 
In the first place, how can Pakistan build CPEC through G&B that it consider disputed? India has every right to intervene in this matter and will put pressure on China. Pakistanis should understand India is not against CPEC, but against it passing through G&B


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And you think we care?

Dude, it's over.

CPEC's construction is on the roll. It will bind entire Pakistan via network of industrial zones, highways, energy projects---and Inshallah once trade gets going--Middle-East, China, Central Asia etc will come to rely on Pakistan for business and trade-

HUGE win for us in terms of geopolitical stature and influence in the wider region, and economic prosperity---and win-win for China, Central Asia, Arab allies of ours etc.

So everybody's happy...except irrelevant entities be in cities like Dubai or poverty stricken lands to our east.

Guess what? Once CPEC is operational--and say india attacks Gilgit-Baltistan,

Some very powerful states from Arab World and China will become direct party to the conflict...hence indians will be facing Pakistan-China-Saudi Arabia etc together. No win situation.

There's a reason india is crying so hard and moaning like a girl. Because CPEC is a game-changer to which india has no answer to.

:)

Pakistan's military is raising special units to protect CPEC's construction and routes....there's a reason behind it :azn:
 
Now I have started to like Modi because he is doing more damage to India than Pakistan. He has removed many veils of hypocrisy on India's ugly face and now she stands stark naked as a sponsor of terrorism in the region. This should be availed by Pakistan but IDK why we don't have a full time professional FM.

When Indian say they like to see stable and prosperous Pakistan just take it from one ear and vent it from another..

CPEC is a start of something big 46 billion $ is just initial investment and more will come from other countries after the project is fully developed.the world has already set its eye on the Pakistani market which has a huge potential for growth and foreign countries can earn healthy profits.......of course India can never digest that...stomach aches!!

I read somewhere the whole project will span 200 Billion and that makes it the world largest integrated infrastructure project. 46B is just the initial investment by China..the infrastructure once ready will spur further investments from public and private sector for various industries and services therefore 200B figure is highly realistic.
 
:lol:

And you think we care?

Dude, it's over.

CPEC's construction is on the roll. It will bind entire Pakistan via network of industrial zones, highways, energy projects---and Inshallah once trade gets going--Middle-East, China, Central Asia etc will come to rely on Pakistan for business and trade-

HUGE win for us in terms of geopolitical stature and influence in the wider region, and economic prosperity---and win-win for China, Central Asia, Arab allies of ours etc.

So everybody's happy...except irrelevant entities be in cities like Dubai or poverty stricken lands to our east.

Guess what? Once CPEC is operational--and say india attacks Gilgit-Baltistan,

Some very powerful states from Arab World and China will become direct party to the conflict...hence indians will be facing Pakistan-China-Saudi Arabia etc together. No win situation.

There's a reason india is crying so hard and moaning like a girl. Because CPEC is a game-changer to which india has no answer to.

:)

Pakistan's military is raising special units to protect CPEC's construction and routes....there's a reason behind it :azn:

India will never dare to strike Chinese infrastructure in GB directly, or it will be like an attack on China itself.

As usual, they will resort to proxies and other indirect methods to achieve these ends.
 
http://www.firstpost.com/world/chin...i-foments-trouble-in-balochistan-2980404.html


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Beijing: China will have "to get involved" if any Indian "plot" disrupts the $46 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) in restive Balochistan, an influential Chinese think tank has warned India.



Prime Minister Narendra Modi's reference to Balochistan in his Independence Day speech is the "latest concern" for China and among its scholars, Hu Shisheng, the Director of the Institute of South and Southeast Asian and Oceanian Studies at the China Institute of Contemporary International Relations (CICIR), told IANS in a freewheeling interview.

The researcher, at one of China's most powerful think tanks, which is affiliated with the Ministry of State Security, also said India's growing military ties with the US and its changed attitude on the disputed South China Sea are ringing alarm bells for China.

"The latest concern for China is Prime Minister Narendra Modi's speech from the Red Fort in which he referred to the issues like Kashmir (occupied by Pakistan) and Balochistan," Hu said.

"It could be regarded as a watershed moment in India's policy towards Pakistan. Why Chinese scholars are concerned is because this is for the first time India has mentioned it," he added.

Hu said China fears India may use "anti-government" elements in Pakistan's restive Balochistan where Beijing is building the $46 billion CPEC -- a key to the success of its ambitious One Road One Belt project.

"There is concern that India may take the same approach, which is believed by the Indian side Pakistan is taking, asymmetrically using anti-government factors in Pakistan," Hu said on the expansive and leafy campus of CICIR.

"If this kind of plot causes damage to the CPEC, China will have to get involved," he said, referring to the alleged involvement of India in backing separatists in Balochistan, Gilgit-Baltistan and Azad Kashmir.

The ongoing CPEC will connect China's largest province, Xinjiang, with Pakistan's Gwadar port in Balochistan, hit by rebels and separatists. India has strongly opposed the corridor as it will pass through Gilgit-Baltistan and Azad Kashmir which it claims as its own.

Islamabad has long accused India of fomenting trouble in this region -- a charge denied by New Delhi.

However, Modi's reference to the region, experts say, is a signal to Pakistan that New Delhi could raise tensions in the region as a tit for tat for Pakistan's backing for terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir.

"This will not help Pakistan to become a normal country. And it will also further disturb India-China relations," Hu pointed out.

Hu noted the growing defence cooperation between India and the US was also a worrying factor of China.

"In the past, China was not so much concerned about India's security cooperation with other countries, especially with the US. But now Chinese scholars can feel the concern," Hu said.

He said the defence cooperation between New Delhi and Washington had increased significantly after Modi took over as prime minister.

He also referred to US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter's visit to India in April during which both the countries agreed in principle to sign the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA).

"There is renewal of defence and technological cooperation (between India and the US) for another 10 years, enhancing the cooperation under the framework of DTTI (Defence Technology and Trade Initiative)," Hu added.

"This is an alarming signal to China. It is a concern for China," the expert said.

He also said India will have to resist pressure exerted by the US and Japan to join them in countering China. "We also know that the US and Japan, as well as Australia, are very keen on getting India in their camp. They are also exerting pressure".

"They are also luring India by giving high-technology deals and advanced military weapons. It is up to India whether India can resist this kind of temptation," Hu said.

India's involvement in the South China Sea dispute was another irritant in the already strained relationship between India and China, Hu added.

"In the past, India's stand on the South China Sea was impartial. Indian is getting more and more involved. This attitude is another concern for China," noted Hu.

"We know that India has national interest in maintaining freedom of navigation and aviation, but China in the past has done nothing to block the so-called freedom of navigation."

"Our problem is with the US. We can see India is becoming more vocal in issuing joint statements with the US and Japan on the South China Sea," he added.

A UN court in July rejected China's claims over the so-called Nine-Dash line -- which covers almost 90 per cent of the contested South China Sea -- and backed the Philippines which has overlapping claims in the oil and natural gas-rich waters, which are also partly claimed by Vietnam, Brunei, Taiwan and Malaysia.

Beijing rejected the verdict as "illegal".

India, 55 per cent of whose trade passes through the Strait of Malacca that opens into the South China Sea, has asked the parties to peacefully resolve the dispute and show utmost respect to the United Nations' Convention on the Law of the Sea.
 
China will have “to get involved” if any Indian “plot” disrupts the $46 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) in restive Balochistan, an influential Chinese think tank has warned India.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s reference to Balochistan in his Independence Day speech is the “latest concern” for China and among its scholars, Hu Shisheng, the director of the Institute of South and Southeast Asian and Oceanian Studies at the China Institute of Contemporary International Relations (CICIR), told IANS in a freewheeling interview.

The researcher, at one of China’s most powerful think tanks, which is affiliated with the ministry of state security, also said India’s growing military ties with the US and its changed attitude on the disputed South China Sea are ringing alarm bells for China.

“The latest concern for China is Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s speech from the Red Fort in which he referred to the issues like Kashmir (occupied by Pakistan) and Balochistan,” Hu said.

“It could be regarded as a watershed moment in India’s policy towards Pakistan. Why Chinese scholars are concerned is because this is for the first time India has mentioned it,” he added.

Hu said China fears India may use “anti-government” elements in Pakistan’s restive Balochistan where Beijing is building the $46 billion CPEC -- a key to the success of its ambitious One Road One Belt project.

“There is concern that India may take the same approach, which is believed by the Indian side Pakistan is taking, asymmetrically using anti-government factors in Pakistan,” Hu said on the expansive and leafy campus of CICIR.

“If this kind of plot causes damage to the CPEC, China will have to get involved,” he said, referring to the alleged involvement of India in backing separatists in Balochistan, Gilgit-Baltistan and Azad Kashmir (Azad Kashmir).

The ongoing CPEC will connect China’s largest province, Xinjiang, with Pakistan’s Gwadar port in Balochistan, hit by rebels and separatists. India has strongly opposed the corridor as it will pass through Gilgit-Baltistan and Azad Kashmir which it claims as its own.

Islamabad has long accused India of fomenting trouble in this region -- a charge denied by New Delhi.

However, Modi’s reference to the region, experts say, is a signal to Pakistan that New Delhi could raise tensions in the region as a tit for tat for Pakistan’s backing for terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir.

“This will not help Pakistan to become a normal country. And it will also further disturb India-China relations,” Hu pointed out.

Hu noted the growing defence cooperation between India and the US was also a worrying factor of China.

“In the past, China was not so much concerned about India’s security cooperation with other countries, especially with the US. But now Chinese scholars can feel the concern,” Hu said.

He said the defence cooperation between New Delhi and Washington increased significantly after Modi took over as Prime Minster.

He also referred to US defense secretary Ashton Carter’s visit to India in April during which both the countries agreed in principle to sign the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA).

“There is renewal of defence and technological cooperation (between India and the US) for another 10 years, enhancing the cooperation under the framework of DTTI (Defence Technology and Trade Initiative),” Hu added.

“This is an alarming signal to China. It is a concern for China,” the expert said.

He also said India will have to resist pressure exerted by the US and Japan to join them in countering China. “We also know that the US and Japan, as well as Australia, are very keen on getting India in their camp. They are also exerting pressure”.

“They are also luring India by giving high-technology deals and advanced military weapons. It is up to India whether India can resist this kind of temptation,” Hu said.

India’s involvement in the South China Sea dispute was another irritant in the already strained relationship between India and China, Hu added.

“In the past, India’s stand on the South China Sea was impartial. Indian is getting more and more involved. This attitude is another concern for China,” noted Hu.

“We know that India has national interest in maintaining freedom of navigation and aviation, but China in the past has done nothing to block the so-called freedom of navigation.”

“Our problem is with the US. We can see India is becoming more vocal in issuing joint statements with the US and Japan on the South China Sea,” he added.

A UN court in July rejected China’s claims over the so-called Nine-Dash line -- which covers almost 90% of the contested South China Sea -- and backed the Philippines which has overlapping claims in the oil and natural gas-rich waters, which are also partly claimed by Vietnam, Brunei, Taiwan and Malaysia.

Beijing rejected the verdict as “illegal”.

India, 55% of whose trade passes through the Strait of Malacca that opens into the South China Sea, has asked the parties to peacefully resolve the dispute and show utmost respect to the United Nations’ Convention on the Law of the Sea.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...-think-tank/story-0BcghPbDpMGkUULXynsgKP.html
 

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