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China, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Iraq, Qatar, Syria, Lebanon, Azerbaijan alliance

Do you know India has good relations which gulf countries as well and recently he become a meddle winner too ... you are not viewing the over all middle eastern situation.... during past few days Israel attacked Syria, Lebanon Iraq and it attacked Iranian backed groups, now Israel and india are two faces of same coin, iran has no choice but to drift slightly toward pakistan, when it comes to the strategic interest of a nation they put smaller benefits on side line and in our region these rapid changing situations will dictate countries to modify their policies accordingly, even if the dont want they will change ...

Sorry to burst you bubble, Iran will not be joining the Pakistani camp anytime soon. I am sure you must have heard " Sab sai barra hai rupiya" thats also the reason the Arabs love india, and thats why i said there is no Ummah.

Oh one more thing, India also has a naval base in Oman.
 
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Sorry but what do you actually mean by " We are"?

Are you an ally to Pakistan?
Do you think that in case of war with India, Iran will dump India (one of the few countries that buys Iranian Oil) and fight along site Pakistan?



China and Turkey will never be allies, especially with what China is doing to the Uyghurs. Just check the Turkish section on PDF and you will see the animosity they have for each other.



ECO countries? You mean Central Asian states plus Iran and Turkey? Did you know that India has a military airbase in Tajikistan and built a port in Iran?
its not a military port it's a civilian port for trade and they are cooperating in building chabahar
 
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we are Iran

yes ( look at how far we did go to save Iraq and Syria and Lebanon .... )

yes ( Khamenei will order it if the right wings do not, as Khamenei allways defended Pakistan and calls for Liberation of Kashmir in Iran, and he will lose all of its credibility if he does not order that )

Sorry mate, actions speak louder than words. And as far i can see Iran is firmly on the Indian camp.

its not a military port it's a civilian port for trade and they are cooperating in building chabahar

That civilian port is where Indian spy Kulbushan Yadev infiltrated Pakistan and carried out terrorist activities.
 
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Sorry to burst you bubble, Iran will not be joining the Pakistani camp anytime soon. I am sure you must have heard " Sab sai barra hai rupiya" thats also the reason the Arabs love india, and thats why i said there is no Ummah.

Oh one more thing, India also has a naval base in Oman.
fact is no body is joining pakistan camp ... pakistan has to fight its own wars and if it remain steadfast ... allies will rally upon soon ... but first they have to set examples ... because success has many father and failure is an orphan
 
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Sir all the nations and countries work according to their interests …… So these alliances wont going to work ….. Brixt is one dam fine example. ….. Even the countries mentioned by op have their own (so many different) interests , they are already in different alliances with different countries …..
It is a day dream that is too very horrible one..
 
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China, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Iraq, Qatar, Syria, Lebanon, Azerbaijan alliance.

The time has come for Pakistan and Pakistanis to wake up and work towards a better future for our nation. Be an independent country who can choose its alliances instead of being trapped in a slave mentality. Build economic links through Cpec like projects. China is the future super power and needs strategic partnerships and Pakistan through its Muslim link needs to work with those countries who are independent and willing to work with Pakistan and then link them to cpec and China.

This is our time to shine. It could be that in the next decade or so China will replace us with another Muslim nation for a close relationship if we do not get our head straight. We need to think like an asian tiger, not like a asian pussycat.

CPEC needs to be fast tracked and we need to get the fear out if this irritates certain arab nations. We want relation with all nations that will benefit our country.
Start the gas pipelines.


you forgot Russia.
 
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fact is no body is joining pakistan camp ... pakistan has to fight its own wars and if it remain steadfast ... allies will rally upon soon ... but first they have to set examples ... because success has many father and failure is an orphan

Exactly, and thats what i have been saying for such a long time.
 
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China, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Iraq, Qatar, Syria, Lebanon, Azerbaijan alliance.

The time has come for Pakistan and Pakistanis to wake up and work towards a better future for our nation. Be an independent country who can choose its alliances instead of being trapped in a slave mentality. Build economic links through Cpec like projects. China is the future super power and needs strategic partnerships and Pakistan through its Muslim link needs to work with those countries who are independent and willing to work with Pakistan and then link them to cpec and China.

This is our time to shine. It could be that in the next decade or so China will replace us with another Muslim nation for a close relationship if we do not get our head straight. We need to think like an asian tiger, not like a asian pussycat.

CPEC needs to be fast tracked and we need to get the fear out if this irritates certain arab nations. We want relation with all nations that will benefit our country.
Start the gas pipelines.
Russia?
 
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you forgot Russia.
That was deliberate. Russia is a world power with its own interests and alliances such as with India, and I dont see Pakistan being very important in that.

I only picked those countries who most likely could become part of this new alliance between China, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey. Also people are forgetting that Pakistan, Iran, Turkey previously had been in an alliance. It was called CENTO.

This is highly possible. It has been mentioned numerous times of a alliance building up between Turkey, Iran and Qatar.

Sir all the nations and countries work according to their interests …… So these alliances wont going to work ….. Brixt is one dam fine example. ….. Even the countries mentioned by op have their own (so many different) interests , they are already in different alliances with different countries …..
It is a day dream that is too very horrible one..

Brexit is UK leaving the EU, they will still have economic, military alliances. They will still fight together to defend themselves.
Sir all the nations and countries work according to their interests …… So these alliances wont going to work ….. Brixt is one dam fine example. ….. Even the countries mentioned by op have their own (so many different) interests , they are already in different alliances with different countries …..
It is a day dream that is too very horrible one..


We have the USA, UK, France and their alliances around the world, and then we have Russia with their alliances and then a new 3rd powerful alliance emerging. China, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey and others. This does not mean we would be anti anybody. It is the world changing fast and new space is being created.

Merging with Iran???

Merger?
 
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China, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Iraq, Qatar, Syria, Lebanon, Azerbaijan alliance.

The time has come for Pakistan and Pakistanis to wake up and work towards a better future for our nation. Be an independent country who can choose its alliances instead of being trapped in a slave mentality. Build economic links through Cpec like projects. China is the future super power and needs strategic partnerships and Pakistan through its Muslim link needs to work with those countries who are independent and willing to work with Pakistan and then link them to cpec and China.

This is our time to shine. It could be that in the next decade or so China will replace us with another Muslim nation for a close relationship if we do not get our head straight. We need to think like an asian tiger, not like a asian pussycat.

CPEC needs to be fast tracked and we need to get the fear out if this irritates certain arab nations. We want relation with all nations that will benefit our country.
Start the gas pipelines.

Young man,

When you had the time to build the alliance with nations that had money to fund a military campaign you rejected and humiliated and degraded those nations---even though those nations helped your very existence in your times of dire need---.

And you want to create alliances with nations that have no common sacrifices in the last 70 years of our existence amongst each other---.
 
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we are Iran

yes ( look at how far we did go to save Iraq and Syria and Lebanon .... )

yes ( Khamenei will order it if the right wings do not, as Khamenei allways defended Pakistan and calls for Liberation of Kashmir in Iran, and he will lose all of its credibility if he does not order that )

These guys will never understand what a follower of school of Ahlul-Bayt can do once the Marja orders. But they must know that a normal follower of school of Ahlul-Bayt is only silent because his Marja orders him to be silent.

As Imam Zain al Abideen said "With death you threaten us, don't you know that death is our legacy and our honor from Allah is martyrdom."

They must know that we are not afraid of death but death should be afraid of us when a follower of Ali Ibn Abi Talib walks in the battlefield.
 
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China, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Iraq, Qatar, Syria, Lebanon, Azerbaijan alliance.

The time has come for Pakistan and Pakistanis to wake up and work towards a better future for our nation. Be an independent country who can choose its alliances instead of being trapped in a slave mentality. Build economic links through Cpec like projects. China is the future super power and needs strategic partnerships and Pakistan through its Muslim link needs to work with those countries who are independent and willing to work with Pakistan and then link them to cpec and China.

This is our time to shine. It could be that in the next decade or so China will replace us with another Muslim nation for a close relationship if we do not get our head straight. We need to think like an asian tiger, not like a asian pussycat.

CPEC needs to be fast tracked and we need to get the fear out if this irritates certain arab nations. We want relation with all nations that will benefit our country.
Start the gas pipelines.
If China wants such an alliance she must create a workable, economic and successful financial transection system parallel to SWIFT to avoid any deadlock in case US put any sanctions like it did with Iran to stop it’s all trade and business. If such a system is in place as Europe is also working on such a system it will end any blackmailing if the alliance is created.China can better protect her allies plus these countries can find more openly new markets for trade and business.
 
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fact is no body is joining pakistan camp ... pakistan has to fight its own wars and if it remain steadfast ... allies will rally upon soon ... but first they have to set examples ... because success has many father and failure is an orphan

How do you propose Pakistan to stand on it's own 2 feets. We cannot do it alone, we need partnerships, business, trade and we are not getting this because the country we follow till today back stab us always. We would obviously need to work hard at home and then build key partnerships and defence agreements with countries like China, Iran, turkey, Qatar in order to make Cpec a success. We have to sell this narrative of a new alliance emerging with Pakistan location being key. I don't know about you but I could not imagine we would become so important with Cpec and our location. We are blessed and need to sell this to the world.
 
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China, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Iraq, Qatar, Syria, Lebanon, Azerbaijan alliance.

The time has come for Pakistan and Pakistanis to wake up and work towards a better future for our nation. Be an independent country who can choose its alliances instead of being trapped in a slave mentality. Build economic links through Cpec like projects. China is the future super power and needs strategic partnerships and Pakistan through its Muslim link needs to work with those countries who are independent and willing to work with Pakistan and then link them to cpec and China.

This is our time to shine. It could be that in the next decade or so China will replace us with another Muslim nation for a close relationship if we do not get our head straight. We need to think like an asian tiger, not like a asian pussycat.

CPEC needs to be fast tracked and we need to get the fear out if this irritates certain arab nations. We want relation with all nations that will benefit our country.
Start the gas pipelines.
Not woekable. Iran is too unpredictable. Turkey is far away from the region while rest of the counteries doesnt matter.
 
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