China, Pakistan deepen Sri Lanka ties at India’s expense

[Saradiel]

Like this is news to us.

well this is in an indian newspaper!

 

[kbd-raaf]

Relevant to my point. That is indian traders (especially textile sector) get a lot of revenue from SL. And SL is a market that they cant ignore. Actually once SL raised tax on indian vehicles, indian companies seeked help from indian gov to help them. And 10% of the revenue of Bajaj is from SL. And as I stated earlier TN textile industry get a lot of revenue from SL and a travel advisory from SL made them lose much of them.


Whether it is cheaper and better is not your concern, it is the concern of the buyer (us). The point is we can substitute. Also the coming SL-China trade agreement will see a boom in Chinese products in SL. That could replace indian products in SL. For you to know India is the main importer in SL. China could change that.
We import vegetables, textiles from india both of them can be imported from Pakistan. India is the main player in supplying pharmaceutical items to SL, which again SL can buy from upcoming Bangla companies. So the space is there. And you are not in a state to ignore SL. SL is small when compared with India but it is the 50th largest population in a world of 170+ countries. So SL is NOT certainly a country to be ignored businesswise.


May be compared with paramilitaries and reserves india could get the top, but still the rest can give a good punch. And again not a negligible punch that many of you can ignore! And the strength of SL army lies in garilla warfare which I am sure Indian army is not good at like SL army.


No, it can if it put things in order. Pakistan can give a serious competition. Even during such difficult days one would be amazed how industrial sector in Pakistan is growing and not affected.


Really? Pakistan has its proxies in Afghanistan. And I didn’t talk about a present day Pakistan, but a Pakistan which is prosperous and secular which would win the trust of the western countries. That is via economy and religion.



I don’t think india has the same problems that Pakistan today encounters. The problem with Pakistan lies in the center and even in its policy making, which is not the case with India. The religious fanatics in Pakistan made countries like US and rest of the west to look for other alliances where India came handy. And that helped india. Otherwise Pakistan would have grown a lot. I don’t think India would ever be able to match what Pakistan is to the Arab world. All the countries have problems but some countries have problems that would hit them harder and break down its all system. Once such issues are sorted out, they can grow. That is the case with Pakistan.


I am normally not a person that compare countries, but I want to state the fact india is NOT in a position to ignore its neighbours. That is for many indian fools here who has got an internet connection recently.

So you're telling me you'll buy a more expensive product that is of lower quality just for some unfounded sense of patriotism?

Re: Military comments

Not really, any South Asian military's operational capability would be wiped out (or in Pakistan's case, severely diminished) by the IN and IAF long before the IA even got to shoot a bullet in anger.

Re: Trading

Yup China can change the trading dynamics in SL. But we weren't talking about China were we? We were talking about Pakistan and Bangladesh. Neither of which has anywhere near enough capacity to beat India's economies of scale, economies of scope and variety and quality of products.

Can you tell me which BD company can compete with the likes of Dr. Reddy's, Ranbaxy or Cipla. None.

Vegetables, yes, sure. But not at the levels of quantity that India could provide, that would mean they won't be able to take advantages of economies of scope. Why would any SL customer buy more expensive basic goods like vegetables which have substitutes that are cheaper (Indian exports).

Re: Textiles

Yup BD can provide substitutes for Indian products. But India will use all its considerable leverage with SL policymakers to ensure that they aren't able to compete nearly as well.

Okay I give up, it's taking too long to write up these responses:

No country is in a position to ignore its neighbours. Including Sri Lanka.

And no country in South Asia is in a position to piss off India without severe repercussions. (imagine where Pakistan could have been by now, taking into account they were one of the fastest growing countries in the world back in the 60s). 
@Saradiel apologies my reply will appear disjointed cos I didn't write it in order.

 

[Saradiel]

So you're telling me you'll buy a more expensive product that is of lower quality just for some unfounded sense of patriotism?

Re: Military comments

Not really, any South Asian military's operational capability would be wiped out (or in Pakistan's case, severely diminished) by the IN and IAF long before the IA even got to shoot a bullet in anger.

Re: Trading

Yup China can change the trading dynamics in SL. But we weren't talking about China were we? We were talking about Pakistan and Bangladesh. Neither of which has anywhere near enough capacity to beat India's economies of scale, economies of scope and variety and quality of products.

Can you tell me which BD company can compete with the likes of Dr. Reddy's, Ranbaxy or Cipla. None.

Vegetables, yes, sure. But not at the levels of quantity that India could provide, that would mean they won't be able to take advantages of economies of scope. Why would any SL customer buy more expensive basic goods like vegetables which have substitutes that are cheaper (Indian exports).

Re: Textiles

Yup BD can provide substitutes for Indian products. But India will use all its considerable leverage with SL policymakers to ensure that they aren't able to compete nearly as well.

Okay I give up, it's taking too long to write up these responses:

No country is in a position to ignore its neighbours. Including Sri Lanka.

And no country in South Asia is in a position to piss off India without severe repercussions. (imagine where Pakistan could have been by now, taking into account they were one of the fastest growing countries in the world back in the 60s). 
@Saradiel apologies my reply will appear disjointed cos I didn't write it in order.

Actually I didnt talk about ignoring India, what I said was SL's trade in south asia is india centric and we need to change that. We might not be able to imprt all, but we can change from where we import, especially the products that come from TN. When involved with TN everythiung is not about money and there are other considerations. And it is not that cheap to import from india.

I never said India must be ignored, actually i was saying how none of the countries can be ignored. And if you think another country can be attacked in today's world no matter how much big weapons you have you are fooling your selves.