China-Pakistan Deal Highlights Waning U.S. Influence In Region

[B@KH]

Absolutely. If it ever comes to Iran vs Pakistan, i don't think any shia in Pakistan will side with Iran. They are Pakistanis first.
Same goes for KSA vs Pakistan.

ksa doesnot have capability. Iran will not till wahabism is controlled. Shias will side anyone who fight against shia killer wahabis. China too will be fight wahabi terrorists.

 

[SipahSalar]

ksa doesnot have capability. Iran will not till wahabism is controlled. Shias will side anyone who fight against shia killer wahabis. China too will be fight wahabi terrorists.

Ok. Just so i am very clear on the issue.
If Pakistan and Iran go to war tomorrow, who will you fight for?
As for the war. Both sides are right. Both sides are wrong. Now please tell us who will you support?

 

[salarsikander]

Sahabas fought battles and cut necks of each others. thousands perish. they are not authority for us. but you can consider them authority.

For us the Only Authority in Islam is Quran and Hadith and Imamat. After Quran and Hadith, Islam revolves around Imamat. This is Eternal and Islamic gains are not for loose.

you are confused and hate like confused khawarij. it is your choice but like isisl and qaida you can also build a new thing and call it islamic state.

saudi may be as you said but not Iran.

you blame both and consider self pious and not astray and could not find the thing you need.

Oh now i get it where youre coming from, thanks for clearing my doubt anyway.

Youre shia, I have deep respect for Shias, in fact all my best mate are Shia's> i have always praised their towards progress of Pakistan. Since you're judgemental, let me help you

I do not support the killing of any innocent being, as far as Shias are considered theyre our brothers, theyre not non-muslims as some other extremist paudis consider.

After four Khalifa the Imamat stopped, now shias have this 12 Imams, its their belief i cant force them or impose it on them.

But claiming that Iran is Islamic state or Arabia for that matter is just putting your heart to rest, that what whatever you're doing is Halal.

I can literally pint you hundred of things in both countries that absolves them of their so called Islamic titles.

But that wont change a thing, coz nether one is interested in Islam, rather using Islam as a source or tool for their own political games.
who said i consider myself Pious? stop making ridiculous claims, and what do you know of me or that i m looking for ?

Both of these entities knows how well this game is being played by invaders of Palestine, yet both of them are after hegemony and are burning. the very result of these tow countries we see other Islamic countries burning.

While people in Europe people progress and create harmony people like you are still centuries away and are fighting over issues that will never finish hunger that will never address social problems.

as far as i ' m concerned you lot including Iran and arabs can burn in hell, enough blood has been shed over your Sect shit. you lot are just pawns in the game that is being played by invades of palestine.

I must say both have you done pretty well job when it comes to play as puppet.

 

[B@KH]

Point one ayyat in Quran which orders us to obey Imamat or only progeny of Prophet is only fit to rule Muslims ?

Contrary to your believe, Point one flaw in the administration and governance of abu bakr and Omar and pray tell us would So called Imamat would have done better. Let's talk on facts here

not my view. the ayah title not limited to muslims.

 

[salarsikander]

Ok. Just so i am very clear on the issue.
If Pakistan and Iran go to war tomorrow, who will you fight for?
As for the war. Both sides are right. Both sides are wrong. Now please tell us who will you support?

He will serve his master yet he will choose to remain and eat of this nation

not my view. the ayah title not limited to muslims.

Answer him!
dont take silly turns, so does that mean you disobey Qur'an now ?

 

[Bratva]

not my view. the ayah title not limited to muslims.

Don't interpret those ayahs of tatheer to the imamat concept. Shows how ignorant you are in matter of deen. Go gain some knowledge before forcing down your non-Islamic concepts on us.

 

[B@KH]

Don't interpret those ayahs of tatheer to the imamat concept. Shows how ignorant you are in matter of deen. Go gain some knowledge before forcing down your non-Islamic concepts on us.

you made a claim and from no where you can prove it. just your assumptions or of your ignorant mammal mullahs ? no where it is mentioned in Quran.

He will serve his master yet he will choose to remain and eat of this nation
Answer him!
dont take silly turns, so does that mean you disobey Qur'an now ?

that is his assumption he cannot provide proof. there are thousands of assumptions and all sing song. but cannot prove from quran. the same ayah that i gave you earlier reject these assumptions and explains everything about people assumptions. if one get that then cannot be deceived by any kind of assumption. this is our job 4:59. we cannot appoint an authority like isil and qaida and call it caliph from God. Authorities are from God. otherwise everyone will have the right to appoint their own authority and call him god caliph.

Oh now i get it where youre coming from, thanks for clearing my doubt anyway.
Youre shia, I have deep respect for Shias, in fact all my best mate are Shia's> i have always praised their towards progress of Pakistan. Since you're judgemental, let me help you
I do not support the killing of any innocent being, as far as Shias are considered theyre our brothers, theyre not non-muslims as some other extremist paudis consider.
After four Khalifa the Imamat stopped, now shias have this 12 Imams, its their belief i cant force them or impose it on them.
But claiming that Iran is Islamic state or Arabia for that matter is just putting your heart to rest, that what whatever you're doing is Halal.
I can literally pint you hundred of things in both countries that absolves them of their so called Islamic titles.
But that wont change a thing, coz nether one is interested in Islam, rather using Islam as a source or tool for their own political games.
who said i consider myself Pious? stop making ridiculous claims, and what do you know of me or that i m looking for ?
Both of these entities knows how well this game is being played by invaders of Palestine, yet both of them are after hegemony and are burning. the very result of these tow countries we see other Islamic countries burning.
While people in Europe people progress and create harmony people like you are still centuries away and are fighting over issues that will never finish hunger that will never address social problems.
as far as i ' m concerned you lot including Iran and arabs can burn in hell, enough blood has been shed over your Sect shit. you lot are just pawns in the game that is being played by invades of palestine.
I must say both have you done pretty well job when it comes to play as puppet.

do not worry from Iran. try to understand the nature of conflict. Iran was good when there was king. all nato allies sign songs of Iran. it becomes bad when independent and king was overthrown. war imposed, sanctions, terrorism, conspiracies, economic collapse etc were imposed.IRAN is peace it will not harm anyone. it only pursue nato proxies and allies. If Pakistan stays neutral and do not support kingdom. there is no danger.

 

[salarsikander]

you made a claim and from no where you can prove it. just your assumptions or of your ignorant mammal mullahs ? no where it is mentioned in Quran.



that is his assumption he cannot provide proof. there are thousands of assumptions and all sing song. but cannot prove from quran. the same ayah that i gave you earlier reject these assumptions and explains everything about people assumptions. if one get that then cannot be deceived by any kind of assumption. this is our job 4:59. we cannot appoint an authority like isil and qaida and call it caliph from God. Authorities are from God. otherwise everyone will have the right to appoint their own authority and call him god caliph.

No one i s claiming Isil or Al qeda to be our leader, please dont display yoour insecurity here.

Answer the simple question he asked, where is that written in Quran ?

Then by that same logic how does your khomeini claims divnity

you made a claim and from no where you can prove it. just your assumptions or of your ignorant mammal mullahs ? no where it is mentioned in Quran.



that is his assumption he cannot provide proof. there are thousands of assumptions and all sing song. but cannot prove from quran. the same ayah that i gave you earlier reject these assumptions and explains everything about people assumptions. if one get that then cannot be deceived by any kind of assumption. this is our job 4:59. we cannot appoint an authority like isil and qaida and call it caliph from God. Authorities are from God. otherwise everyone will have the right to appoint their own authority and call him god caliph.



do not worry from Iran. try to understand the nature of conflict. Iran was good when there was king. all nato allies sign songs of Iran. it becomes bad when independent and king was overthrown. war imposed, sanctions, terrorism, conspiracies, economic collapse etc were imposed.IRAN is peace it will not harm anyone. it only pursue nato proxies and allies. If Pakistan stays neutral and do not support kingdom. there is no danger.

Hi,
Then why does peaceful country like iran support tyrants like bashar Al Assad,why does peaceful country like Iran attacked our soldiers ? and took arms to fight Iraq from invaders of Palestine

 

[B@KH]

No one i s claiming Isil or Al qeda to be our leader, please dont display yoour insecurity here.

Answer the simple question he asked, where is that written in Quran ?

Then by that same logic how does your khomeini claims divnity


Hi,
Then why does peaceful country like iran support tyrants like bashar Al Assad,why does peaceful country like Iran attacked our soldiers ? and took arms to fight Iraq from invaders of Palestine

Go to imamate. all problem solved.

he asked nothing. he placed his assumption which he cannot provide from quran. this is this and that. again i say the ayah i gave you nullifies all assumptions and stop deceivers. there are thousands many of such assumption.

there is not one ayah on the subject but dozens. and hadith is not one but hundreds. go thru it all.

these are old stories.asad should go for election to legitimize / opposition do not agree. / this is opposition problem./ asad has good following than the oppositon. / solutions should be syrain Not Nato solution / we have to start a.b.c.d. it is very difficult. qs never end.

 

[salarsikander]

Go to imamate. all problem solved.

he asked nothing. he placed his assumption which he cannot provide from quran. this is this and that. again i say the ayah i gave you nullifies all assumptions and stop deceivers. there are thousands many of such assumption.

there is not one ayah on the subject but dozens. and hadith is not one but hundreds. go thru it all.

these are old stories.asad should go for election to legitimize / opposition do not agree. / this is opposition problem./ asad has good following than the oppositon. / we have to start a.b.c.d. it is very difficult. qs never end.

show us the one ayah which says the that w have to follow imamat.

secondly, is that Islamic to support tyrant regardless of the fact that we have to start from scratch.

How islamic of mullah state

 

[B@KH]

show us the one ayah which says the that w have to follow imamat.

secondly, is that Islamic to support tyrant regardless of the fact that we have to start from scratch.

How islamic of mullah state

Nato+allies are bigger tyrant.

he is not tyrant he is as he is ready to go but thru elections. nato opposition do not allow him but want to kill him.

who is tyrant.

then why you people insist.

 

[salarsikander]

Nato+allies are bigger tyrant.

he is not tyrant he is as he is ready to go but thru elections. nato opposition do not allow him but want to kill him.

who is tyrant.

then why you people insist.

I dont give shit about Nato, they dont claim to be Islamic unlike mullah of Iran which is responsible for this sect killing of innocent and please your thought on contra-affair.

so him bombing the shit out of his own population is not tyranny? perhaps in the books of mullah iran but not in normal world

 

[B@KH]

I dont give shit about Nato, they dont claim to be Islamic unlike mullah of Iran which is responsible for this sect killing of innocent and please your thought on contra-affair.
so him bombing the shit out of his own population is not tyranny? perhaps in the books of mullah iran but not in normal world

go to syria and see things there. it is different there what are told outside by the nato media. while iran do not approve his bombings. infact after asad there is no syria. more problem for syrias. minimum 5 divisions. Iran always ask for dialougue among syrians and syrian solution. the other gangs are secterian monster and Islam do not approve them too.

 

[salarsikander]

go to syria and see things there. it is different there what are told outside by the nato media. while iran do not approve his bombings. infact after asad there is no syria. more problem for syrias. minimum 5 divisions. Iran always ask for dialougue among syrians and syrian solution. the other gangs are secterian monster and Islam do not approve them too.

Hi,
yes Mullah is the innocent in whole wide world all the sectarian killing is done by sunnis
Iran attacking our soldiers in cold-blood was out of pure innocence ? right?
Iran never has played any part in fact the whole contra affair with the country that iran claims to annihilate was a lie.
No wonder iran isolated by world and you on the other hand are too ignorant to comprehend that.
In all your post your bias towards Iran disgusts me.

so who will you support if Iran mad mullah went to war with Pakistan? like how they attacked our soldiers

 

[B@KH]

Hi,
yes Mullah is the innocent in whole wide world all the sectarian killing is done by sunnis
Iran attacking our soldiers in cold-blood was out of pure innocence ? right?
Iran never has played any part in fact the whole contra affair with the country that iran claims to annihilate was a lie.
No wonder iran isolated by world and you on the other hand are too ignorant to comprehend that.
In all your post your bias towards Iran disgusts me.
so who will you support if Iran mad mullah went to war with Pakistan? like how they attacked our soldiers

same old rants. we will make a new Paksitan that will be friendly to its people and will live with Logic and reasoning. the era of corruption has to end and that is why we called in China. Foundation is now laid for new Pakistan. we support Powerful Islamic IRAN.