China-Pak Economic Corridor: Why Gwadar Is An Overrated Port

[OrionHunter]

Just pure Buthurt/jealousy with zero facts about Gwadar

And friend, what facts do YOU have on Gwadar? It's not even yours anymore as it has been leased to the Chinese for 40 years! How they operate it would be none of your business! (pun intended).

You need to counter the OPs arguments with straight facts which you have failed to do and glossed over it by using the most used word by some of those Pakistanis who know squat about a subject - and that is.......'BUTT HURT'! I'm sick to the point of puking, hearing these two words in every other thread.

 

[CHD]

And friend, what facts do YOU have on Gwadar? It's not even yours anymore as it has been leased to the Chinese for 40 years! How they operate it would be none of your business! (pun intended).

You need to counter the OPs arguments with straight facts which you have failed to do and glossed over it by using the most used word by some of those Pakistanis who know squat about a subject - and that is.......'BUTT HURT'! I'm sick to the point of puking, hearing these two words in every other thread.

if its not buthurt then what it is, does any one in Pakistan writes biased articles about development projects in india and every week we get one butthurt article from indians

 

[Tripoli]

Agreed,

But then can anyone please share details on this...

Fromwhatever sketchy information is available, it looks like a combination of loans for road and rail infra, and power plants to be built bythe Chinese for which Pakistan has given a sovereign guarantee to buy all the power produced at a fantastic rate of PKR 18 per unit (INR equivalent 11.53). Even the powerplants which are going to be all thermalvariety are going to be put up at a minimum of $2 billion per GW (1 GW=1000 MW).

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/china-pa...ar-is-an-overrated-port.434782/#ixzz4BWhWP179

As far as the power projects are concerned they are probably loans though not sure. However, the road , rail and pipeline infrastructure is purely Chinese investment and not loans.

Rs8.12 per unit tariff approved for Hubco's power project.(cpec project) I would love to know where he got the Rs 18 figure from.

NOTE: The point of my post was not to deny all of his content but to deny his 'conclusion' that Gwadar is overrated.

 

[OrionHunter]

Yes you have read it correctly, Gwadar will have 120 berths when fully operational.

Really? Can you provide a link to your claims? Or are you just shooting in the breeze?

 

[HypocriteHunter]

Just pure Buthurt/jealousy with zero facts about Gwadar

So even after reading you dont get what it said how dumb are you.

if its not buthurt then what it is, does any one in Pakistan writes biased articles about development projects in india and every week we get one butthurt article from indians

All reported for obscene language, no value content and derailing thread without any substance.

Mod @waz please take care of this trolling and abusing.

 

[CHD]

Really? Can you provide a link to your claims? Or are you just shooting in the breeze?

Watch wajahat khan latest MAHAZ programs on Gwadar in which he clearly says about 120 berths while below link is a bit old but still relevent.

Gwadar Port to have 100 berths by 2045: minister
http://www.dawn.com/news/1252140

 

[HypocriteHunter]

Watch wajahat khan latest MAHAZ programs on Gwadar in which he clearly says about 120 berths while below link is a bit old but still relevent.

Gwadar Port to have 100 berths by 2045: minister

May be Port on mars to have 1000 berths by 2044! The context was present, those births will be added only if current succeed,we were talking about present, the present capacity with which this ports will start running.

Those ministers are saying it will be operational from 2007 is it operational yet? Source: Wikipedia

 

[danger007]

Watch wajahat khan latest MAHAZ programs on Gwadar in which he clearly says about 120 berths while below link is a bit old but still relevent.

Gwadar Port to have 100 berths by 2045: minister
http://www.dawn.com/news/1252140

2045 ???.... so you guys gonna CPEC CPEC till then.. too much dependency on only one ...

 

[CHD]

May be Port on mars to have 1000 berths by 2044! The context was present, those births will be added only if current succeed,we were talking about present, the present capacity with which this ports will start running. Those ministers are saying it will be operational from 2006 is it operational yet?

I hope your eyes work, now see how many berths are these. Are these 3 as mentioned in article or 5?

First ever Chinese Merchant ship takes berth at Gwadar Port
Reported by: `CT Report May 17, 2016


KARACHI: First ever Chinese Merchant ship arrived at Gwadar Port to discharge the electrical equipments.

According to the details, the Chinese Merchant ship MV Cosco DA ZI YUN flag Hong Kong carrying electrical equipment for the port has berthed at Gwadar.

The sources at Port Gwadar informed that the Chinese Merchant ship was escorted by the Pakistan Navy Vessel from the Port Qasim to the Gwadar port.

The newly expanded Gwadar deep water port is a key to a planned $47 billion China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) that is nearly complete and expects to process a million tons of cargo from the next year, source maintained.

http://www.customstoday.com.pk/first-ever-chinese-merchant-ship-takes-berth-at-gwadar-port/

 

[Nilgiri]

So even after reading you dont get what it said how dumb are you, its starting its operations and will gradually increased when all the 120 berths are installed. Yes you have read it correctly, Gwadar will have 120 berths when fully operational.
Chabahar has a maximum berth capacity of 20, your mumbai port has 30 berth and the Dubai has 102 berths.

So all of India's ports are going to stay frozen in time till 2045 no less?

What is the schedule for Gwadar to have 120 berths according to the Chinese? 2045 is just ridiculous projectioneering by some minister.

 

[CHD]

So all of India's ports are going to stay frozen in time?

What is the schedule for Gwadar to have 120 berths? Show me the source you are using.

Watch wajahat khan latest MAHAZ programs on Gwadar in which he clearly says about 120 berths while below link is a bit old but still relevent.

Gwadar Port to have 100 berths by 2045: minister
http://www.dawn.com/news/1252140

 

[HypocriteHunter]

I hope your eyes work, now see how many berths are these. Are these 3 as mentioned in article or 5?

You are constantly abusing and insulting other members I hope Mods take notice of it. That report from Mahaz have you ever saw that video? He said 3 berths, anyways its about your so called 120 berths 3 or 5 as if I care.

There may be some problem with English comprehension, I used the word Operational, the link you quoted about a ship being birthed says it contains the equipment for port, hope you read it again and know the difference between Operational and under construction.

 

[Nilgiri]

Watch wajahat khan latest MAHAZ programs on Gwadar in which he clearly says about 120 berths while below link is a bit old but still relevent.

Gwadar Port to have 100 berths by 2045: minister
http://www.dawn.com/news/1252140

OK so some minister then and not the Chinese themselves. Got it. These things always go according to plans/projections of some minister all the time world over.

Did you just extrapolate the 400 million ton handling capacity from the number of berths as well?

 

[The Sandman]

No wonder OP is an indian why you ppl are so obsessed with us don't you've something else to discuss?
Sigh will tag professionals on this topic who i think have more knowledge about CPEC and Gawadar than you ppl
@That Guy @Oscar @Irfan Baloch @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @Chinese-Dragon @Kaptaan

 

[The Next Door]

I think writer has zero knowledge as it says that chahabar will connect to every thing writer doesn't know any thing
No 1 chahabar will have only one deep sea berth which might also might not be possible while gawader has ability of 128 deep sea berths
No 2 about central Asia and Kabul studies show that they are still 600 km near to gawader then to chahaber
No 3 even to operate chahaber they will have to use gawader
Chahaber will only benefit Iran on very short scale