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if we calculate payload the same way the Chinese do then SLS payload is 156.9 metric ton.
So still winning...:coffee:
source? nasa's own site only has SLS carrying 27 tons to trans-lunar orbit where as CZ-9 will carry 50 tons
 
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source? nasa's own site only has SLS carrying 27 tons to trans-lunar orbit where as CZ-9 will carry 50 tons
27 mt = SLS block 1, SLS block 2 = 45 mt. TLI of pure pay load and not injected mass. The CZ-9 50 mt to TLI is injected mass not pure payload.
 
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Back then the US was willing to risk lives to beat the USSR to the moon. Now China has no rush. China will send droids first to build a small base before sending men to moon.

So in 2030 they will build a lunar base first?
 
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Mars mission eh ? Is it more powerful than the Starship or SLS , how will you guys get your taikonaut back from Mars since even the SLS can only do a one way mission ?

Or will you guys send a fuel tank to Mars and when the manned module comes land on Mars it also fuels back up ?
A 2 rocket launch can perform. And an orbital docking can send the astronaut back to earth.
 
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Back then the US was willing to risk lives to beat the USSR to the moon. Now China has no rush. China will send droids first to build a small base before sending men to moon.
Yeah, we're all told that they successfully sent eleven men to lunar surface in six missions without any problem. That's how they won the Cold War after Soviet's Yuri Gagarin made the first ever human appearance in space.

But now they have forgotten the ways on how to do it again with all the modern technologies.

Oh men, it really takes lots of faith against all odds :-)

#Stanley Kubrick
 
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Yeah, we're all told that they successfully sent eleven men to lunar surface in six missions without any problem. That's how they won the Cold War after Soviet's Yuri Gagarin made the first ever human appearance in space.

But now they have forgotten the ways on how to do it again with all the modern technologies.

Oh men, it really takes one's faith against all odds :-)

#Stanley Kubrick

stop trolling, Artemis is not a sight seeing / sample return mission like Apollo was in the 60s. Artemis is much more ambitious.
 
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stop trolling, Artemis is not a sight seeing / sample return mission like Apollo was in the 60s. Artemis is much more ambitious.
Who argues about that?? Who's trolling that?

I didn't even mention that the Russian lifting service is called in, again, to reach the ISS (11 Mar) :-)
 
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Who argues about that?? Who's trolling that?

I didn't even mention that the Russian lifting service is called in, again, to reach the ISS (11 Mar) :-)

You know we can use SpaceX if we want right ? We chose to be nice and also the government loves ULA more than SpaceX for no reason
 
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You know we can use SpaceX if we want right ? We chose to be nice and also the government loves ULA more than SpaceX for no reason

Starship can carry a 176 metric tons to the lunar transfer orbit after refueling in low earth orbit.
Who argues about that?? Who's trolling that?

I didn't even mention that the Russian lifting service is called in, again, to reach the ISS (11 Mar) :-)

more trolling, there was a spare seat on Soyuz we had a spare astronaut so we took the seat. Only because we did not want to break our own record of continuous presence of X years on ISS.
 
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Starship can carry a 176 metric tons to the lunar transfer orbit after refueling in low earth orbit.


more trolling, there was a spare seat on Soyuz we had a spare astronaut so we took the seat. Only because we did not want to break our own record of continuous presence of X years on ISS.

Yep as usual , America has plans for Mars with Elon and plans for the Moon with our international buddies from Europe to Japan idk maybe India ?

China and Russia are however building a lunar base together
 
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Yeah, we're all told that they successfully sent eleven men to lunar surface in six missions without any problem. That's how they won the Cold War after Soviet's Yuri Gagarin made the first ever human appearance in space.

But now they have forgotten the ways on how to do it again with all the modern technologies.

Oh men, it really takes lots of faith against all odds :-)

#Stanley Kubrick

Soviets beat the US in nearly every space achievement, except the ‘moon landings’ that took place in Hollywood studios. Couldn’t beat the Soviets in anything so they faked it.
 
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