China must recover territory ‘looted' by neighbours, said PLA General

[ares]

^^You say so but reading the post on this thread ..nobody could have predicted it.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Beijing should publish the facts. I am not saying Beijing should declare war now. but Beijing should let the mainland Chinese know what actually happened and is happening. why are they suppressing facts? India no longer recognizes Tibet as part of China, its a fact, goddamn fact, the world knows it, why Chinese media is silent? goddamn, I posted the Wikileaks materials which show indian ministry of defense uses the Tibetans to humiliate the Chinese govt and also training and deploying them in the occupied areas, and the goddamn mod deleted it whenever I posted it on the Chinese forum. it seems the Chinese media is actually indian media praising india to no end. you go to all the Chinese media and you will see how they are admiring india. can you tell me what is going on?

You've got a good point there.

Remember what Sun zi said though: "All warfare is based on deception".

China is expanding trade with India, just like China built up a huge trading relationship with Japan and the USA. This will be very powerful when the conflict comes.

Japan for instance has slightly above 0% GDP growth, their economy is stagnant. If China stops the trade, and stops the export of rare earths to Japan, their economy will be crushed.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

However IQ is not the only factor in national success. Education system to train that IQ is also important. With our far superior scores in science and literature (as shown by 2009 PISA test results) and India's abysmal failure in providing even basic literacy and nutrition to its citizens, the already disadvantaged Indian IQ is further disadvantaged by a lack of rigorous training.

IQ and Global Inequality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As the education system continues to improve, we will see the levels rising. This will be very good for the future.

 

[below_freezing]

US economic growth is also fake. While raw GDP growth in the US averages out to 2% over the past decade, the population growth rate of the US exceeds 2%. This means that average productivity is not going up, only the number of people! Add in inflation caused by their failed economic policies (set in place by the "brilliant" white man Bernanke) and we can see a decline in purchasing power of the US. Any slight perturbation is enough to destabilize the US economy and cause it to downspiral immediately, following which there will be a civil war, possibly nuclear, and the liberation of countries such as Hawaii, California and the Confederate States of America from the US boot.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

US economic growth is also fake. While raw GDP growth in the US averages out to 2% over the past decade, the population growth rate of the US exceeds 2%. This means that average productivity is not going up, only the number of people! Add in inflation caused by their failed economic policies (set in place by the "brilliant" white man Bernanke) and we can see a decline in purchasing power of the US. Any slight perturbation is enough to destabilize the US economy and cause it to downspiral immediately, following which there will be a civil war, possibly nuclear, and the liberation of countries such as Hawaii, California and the Confederate States of America from the US boot.

America is trying to stop themselves falling the way of Europe, by importing huge numbers of Mexicans etc. to keep the population model stable. This will certainly lead to tensions in the long-run, due to the conflict of cultures.

 

[HongWu]

Keep believing that and I hope if some one can put you inchrage of PLA ..it will great service too India.

We all know that India is trying to buy artillery pieces from the West and India will attack once it gets those artillery pieces. India is stupid to think that they can fight an offensive war deep into Chinese territory using only a few transport aircraft and helicopters. The war will be a short episode of Chinese artillery firing on Indian mountain troops until they all die. The ones that run away find they have no supplies and die on the mountains. India attempts to supply their forward bases will be totally denied and Indian military bases will be under attack from cruise missiles on day 1.

 

[6642.CN]

You've got a good point there.

Remember what Sun zi said though: "All warfare is based on deception".

China is expanding trade with India, just like China built up a huge trading relationship with Japan and the USA. This will be very powerful when the conflict comes.

Japan for instance has slightly above 0% GDP growth, their economy is stagnant. If China stops the trade, and stops the export of rare earths to Japan, their economy will be crushed.

listen when the question of deception comes, China can't beat india. You need to read Kautilya's Arthasastra which outshines the Art of War in terms of deception. Look, Nixon said in 1971, "these goddamn indians are so treacherous". India even deceived CIA successfully in 1971. anyone who can deceive CIA should not be underestimated. my intuition says, either the Beijing govt has betrayed the nation or it is digging the nation's own grave.

as for your economic theory, let us not be so naive. it will be counter-productive. India won't be trapped, rather China will be trapped. you will see. I have already analyzed all aspects.

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[divya]

Enough BS its high time that people of China should wake up and dissolve the CPC because they are going against the interst of china. China needs a revolution and then needs to attack India before India attacks China thats the only way forward...


Damn we Indians are doomed....

 

[ares]

We all know that India is trying to buy artillery pieces from the West and India will attack once it gets those artillery pieces. India is stupid to think that they can fight an offensive war deep into Chinese territory using only a few transport aircraft and helicopters. The war will be a short episode of Chinese artillery firing on Indian mountain troops until they all die. The ones that run away find they have no supplies and die on the mountains. India attempts to supply their forward bases will be totally denied and Indian military bases will be under attack from cruise missiles on day 1.

Well armchair generals like you can win the entire world in their fantasy world but real generals are bit more pragmatic and not so full of them selves.

Besides 155 MM/32 calibre howitzer is not the only howitzers used Indian mountains divisions...there are lower calibre artillery for mountainous regions.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

listen when the question of deception comes, China can't beat india. You need to read Kautilya's Arthasastra which outshines the Art of War in terms of deception. Look, Nixon said in 1971, "these goddamn indians are so treacherous". India even deceived CIA successfully in 1971. anyone who can deceive CIA should not be underestimated. my intuition says, either the Beijing govt has betrayed the nation or it is digging the nation's own grave.

I disagree, I think China can easily beat India. Both in war and deception.

China has already been back stabbed by India in 1959 when they hosted the Tibetan government in exile. They continued to host them for over half a century.

Then back stabbed again, via Nehru's forward policy in 1962, leading to the Sino-Indian war.

The CCP is prepared for any more back stabbing coming from that direction.

 

[ironman]

We have a large advantage over india already: our average IQs are 19 points higher along with superior education system to train that IQ.

Let me explain. The standard deviation of IQs is roughly invariant across all populations, at about 15 and IQ is normally distributed. For lower IQs, the entire curve is shifted towards the negative side, meaning that someone considered smart, with smart being defined as being a standard deviation above average in IQ, in the low IQ population is merely average in the higher IQ population. Likewise, a "dumb" person in the high IQ population is already average in the low IQ population. The proportion of mentally challenged persons with IQ lower than 65 is also greater in the population with lower IQ.

In the specific cases of China and India, a mentally challenged person (with IQ 65 or lower) in China must be 2 standard deviations below average. At most then, there are only 2.1% people that are mentally challenged. However, in India, to be mentally challenged with below 65 IQ only needs 1 standard deviation below average: 15.8% of India's population unable to contribute intellectual ability to its development. Likewise, the top 2.1% of india only has an IQ of 116, while China has 15.8% of its population with IQ of 116 or higher. In addition, China has a population advantage, meaning that our high IQ population far outnumbers India's (and US's), and in addition with our far lower burden of mentally incapabable peoples, will lead us to surpass both easily.

However IQ is not the only factor in national success. Education system to train that IQ is also important. With our far superior scores in science and literature (as shown by 2009 PISA test results) and India's abysmal failure in providing even basic literacy and nutrition to its citizens, the already disadvantaged Indian IQ is further disadvantaged by a lack of rigorous training.

You've got a good point there.

Remember what Sun zi said though: "All warfare is based on deception".

China is expanding trade with India, just like China built up a huge trading relationship with Japan and the USA. This will be very powerful when the conflict comes.

Japan for instance has slightly above 0% GDP growth, their economy is stagnant. If China stops the trade, and stops the export of rare earths to Japan, their economy will be crushed.

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[Tin Man]

Attack india for what......exactly...? China has no legitimate reason to engage india. Worst case scenario is a cold war stand off.

 

[divya]

Attack india for what......exactly...? China has no legitimate reason to engage india. Worst case scenario is a cold war stand off.

shhhhhhhhh dont spoil the party mate.... just wait, watch, read and enjoy

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Attack india for what......exactly...? China has no legitimate reason to engage india. Worst case scenario is a cold war stand off.

I am assuming a situation where China is defending Pakistan against an Indian attack, for example after a trigger like another Mumbai.

Regarding purely China and India though... India refused to include the "One China" principle in the joint statement during Wen Jiabao's visit.

From what I have read, Indian think tanks believe that India should pressure China over Tibet, up to and including a scenario where India would label Tibet as a "disputed area". This refusal to state the One China policy is seen as a precursor to that.

Such a move would certainly see some level of conflict. After hosting the Tibetan government in exile for over half a century, if India decides to label Tibet as a "disputed area" that will end up with a conflict.

 

[HongWu]

Attack india for what......exactly...? China has no legitimate reason to engage india. Worst case scenario is a cold war stand off.

India wants an independent Tibet. China has every reason to attack India and destroy this ugly threat once and for all. Nobody messes with China's Tibet.