China military must be able to destroy Elon Musk’s Starlink satellites if they threaten national security: Chinese scientists

[Hamartia Antidote]

Typical crusader mentality. Whiteman is always right.

Well if you think having access to less information and having the Government restrict what information you do see makes people less duped and less living in an illusion..well then..that's your life..I'm not going to knock it.

Some people think the world is flat...I'm not going point some finger at them and call them names. Some of the happiest people on the planet are stupid and not knowing the world is round doesn't affect their life at all. They work generation after generation for hundreds of years as simple farmers and the sun still comes up, the rains come, the crops grow, and all is fine.

 

[Darth Vader]

Going for satellites is the easiest way to shut down enemies communication, tracking systems.

But adding all this garbage is sure way to end our future space endeavours with all the garbage we are adding, space is already filled with enough human junk

 

[WotTen]

Send millions of steel objects to starlink orbit with opposite movement direction.

Exactly. All you need is thousands of cheap kamikaze drones with a one-way appointment with Elon's pests. China can manufacture and launch them by the tens of thousands 100x faster than Elon can launch replacement pests.

Why? Just find a surefire way to hack into the Starlink System and use the adversary's own resources against it.

Someone's been watching Independence Day

Well if you think having access to less information and having the Government restrict what information you do see makes people less duped and less living in an illusion..well then..that's your life..I'm not going to knock it.

Anybody who doesn't understand that Starlink will be used as a cover for US military satellites is being naive.

 

[Al_Muhannad]

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Well if you think having access to less information and having the Government restrict what information you do see makes people less duped and less living in an illusion..well then..that's your life..I'm not going to knock it.

Some people think the world is flat...I'm not going point some finger at them and call them names. Some of the happiest people on the planet are stupid and not knowing the world is round doesn't affect their life at all. They work generation after generation for hundreds of years as simple farmers and the sun still comes up, the rains come, the crops grow, and all is fine.

As I said, typical crusader mentality.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

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As I said, typical crusader mentality.

Well things like the internet and electrification weren't created by "simple farmers" who never cared if the world was flat or round and lived happily in their government's illusion of choice...and so the people of the world aren't thanking them for getting them out of the "fields".

You have to take the good with the bad with "the crusaders" vs the "farmers" who have spent generations contributing nothing to the rest of the world..

 

[White privilege]

Satellites orbiting the earth are sitting ducks to harassment from the ground, or even destruction.The only thing that is keeping them safe is the power balance b/w big powers that operate them.

 

[Al_Muhannad]

Well things like the internet and electrification weren't created by "simple farmers" who never cared if the world was flat or round and lived happily in their government's illusion of choice...and so the people of the world aren't thanking them for getting them out of the "fields".

You have to take the good with the bad with "the crusaders" vs the "farmers" who have spent generations contributing nothing to the rest of the world..

mein Freund, this is exactly what I said in my last post. You are really out of your depth on this. The progress that the west made in last 200 years is not some divine right. It is due to resource capture (which takes to my original point about peaceful coexistence). Start tracing the origin of a technology, and you will see the places it will take you.
Khair, I only got this much time. Stay Awake!

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

mein Freund, this is exactly what I said in my last post. You are really out of your depth on this. The progress that the west made in last 200 years is not some divine right. It is due to resource capture (which takes to my original point about peaceful coexistence). Start tracing the origin of a technology, and you will see the places it will take you.
Khair, I only got this much time. Stay Awake!

No, most enduring inventions that mankind sees today were simply made by people looking to solve a problem.

The guys who made the first airplane were poor bicycle makers who never benefited from any resource capture. They were simple uneducated men trying to make a living in a small city in the middle of nowhere. I'm sure if there were any books at a library written describing flight they would have eagerly grabbed them...even if the books were written by evil foreigners and shunned by the Government.

Making some big generalization that somehow these guys benefited from resource capture is just some lame excuse used by the type of people who have no imagination or drive to invent things like this in the first place. They are satisfied with the simple status quo and aren't brave enough to risk change so they have to trivialize the accomplishments of others somehow to make themselves feel better.

 

[Al_Muhannad]

most enduring inventions that mankind sees today were simply made by people looking to solve a problem.

I guess whiteman was the only one to do so. You have to understand the reason behind the reason.

books were written by evil foreigners

Typically crusadery. You guys distorted the names of our scientists to whitewash them. But yeah books by evil foreigners shouldn’t be unknown to you

Making some big generalization that somehow these guys benefited from resource capture is just some lame excuse used by the type of people who have no imagination or drive to invent things like this in the first place.

My ancestors fucked by believing peaceful coexistence bullshit after 1492. That’s the price that we pay till today. you have no idea what resource capture is in that case.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Typically crusadery. You guys distorted the names of our scientists to whitewash them. But yeah books by evil foreigners shouldn’t be unknown to you

My ancestors fucked by believing peaceful coexistence bullshit after 1492. That’s the price that we pay till today. you have no idea what resource capture is in that case.

You don't have a monopoly on that...you can talk to others here whose countries have been ruled by foreigners..and some of those "crusaders" were people like the Ottomans

@Foinikas @Apollon

 

[Foinikas]

I guess whiteman was the only one to do so. You have to understand the reason behind the reason.


Typically crusadery. You guys distorted the names of our scientists to whitewash them. But yeah books by evil foreigners shouldn’t be unknown to you


My ancestors fucked by believing peaceful coexistence bullshit after 1492. That’s the price that we pay till today. you have no idea what resource capture is in that case.

Typical "white man" complex. You could of course stay in the desert and avoid contact with anything white. No movies,TV series,documentaries,music,
food and products by European,Russian and American origin. Just enjoy your native culture.

 

[Al_Muhannad]

Typical "white man" complex. You could of course stay in the desert and avoid contact with anything white. No movies,TV series,documentaries,music,
food and products by European,Russian and American origin. Just enjoy your native culture.

Thats what we did (believing in peaceful co-existence). Didn't turn out well for us and a lot of other folks in americas.

Does the products argument apply to you? Islam orders us to go explore the world. The original argument is that we gave you guys space so that you keep your bullshit to you. Now you are going into circles.

You don't have a monopoly on that

Then who does? We started from Chinese being forced into liberalism (which as per my argument is crusade).

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Anybody who doesn't understand that Starlink will be used as a cover for US military satellites is being naive.

Cover?..the US military has openly embraced the system as being something they should leverage. Look at the publicity in Ukraine and the US military talking about integrating it into their weapons.

U.S. Army signs deal with SpaceX to assess Starlink broadband

U.S. Army signs deal with SpaceX to assess Starlink broadband

spacenews.com

Musk's satellite project testing encrypted internet with military planes

The Air Force is using SpaceX's fledgling satellite network to test encrypted internet services for a number of military planes, the space company's president said on Tuesday, detailing results for the first customer of Elon Musk's planned constellation of thousands of broadband-beaming satellites.

www.reuters.com

Then who does? We started from Chinese being forced into liberalism (which as per my argument is crusade).

Starlink is forcing Chinese into liberalism?????

How do you figure that? Chinese rogue elements build their own satellite dishes (or smuggle some in) and tap into the Starlink network thus immediately opening the entire country to a rapid disintegration into liberalism???

The Chinese will never allow the system anyway because (just like Huawei's 5G hardware) Starlink's hardware will have direct access to information being transferred and can auto-update both the dish and satellite software "at will" so its a potential national security risk for targeted snooping.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Cover?..the US military has openly embraced the system as being something they should leverage. Look at the publicity in Ukraine and the US military talking about integrating it into their weapons.

U.S. Army signs deal with SpaceX to assess Starlink broadband

U.S. Army signs deal with SpaceX to assess Starlink broadband

spacenews.com

Musk's satellite project testing encrypted internet with military planes

The Air Force is using SpaceX's fledgling satellite network to test encrypted internet services for a number of military planes, the space company's president said on Tuesday, detailing results for the first customer of Elon Musk's planned constellation of thousands of broadband-beaming satellites.

www.reuters.com

Starlink is forcing Chinese into liberalism?????

How do you figure that? Chinese rogue elements build their own satellite dishes (or smuggle some in) and tap into the Starlink network thus immediately opening the entire country to a rapid disintegration into liberalism???

The Chinese will never allow the system anyway because (just like Huawei's 5G hardware) Starlink's hardware will have direct access to information being transferred and can auto-update both the dish and satellite software "at will" so its a potential national security risk for targeted snooping.

So it's a military asset then. Made moreso by the fact that it's bandwidth is sufficient to handle military requirements but not civilian ones.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

So it's a military asset then. Made moreso by the fact that it's bandwidth is sufficient to handle military requirements but not civilian ones.

Well conversely I suppose if the bandwidth was super high you'd be saying it was designed specifically for military espionage as such bandwidth has no practical civilian use.

The main benefit of Starlink is it requires no massive local infrastructure requirements (or reliance) and thus it will work over oceans, in the middle of some remote desert, or in countries with little internet infrastructure.

Man testing Starlink on a boat.