China may export J-10B fighters with Russian AL31FN-S3 engines to Pakistan

[Tipu7]

Stop commenting like an immature prick when you are not 100% sure that Su35s are really coming.

I was just a jolly comment in light mood.
I don't know why it set your a** on fire......

@Beta-Fighter

Dear if you have some thing logical to say then say.
Better avoid such things which we already know.
We know very well how mighty IAF is and what are it's capabilities.

Thank you........

 

[Beta-Fighter]

-Who told you there is no deal for the J-10B ... the option is actually still available ...

you don't have this option. If you had this option , your are saying to Chinese your plane is not good , Russian plnaes are better then yours. lol this is called height of stupidity.

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-IAF was working on that crash record too ... IAF still sits at the top in that one .. but then again .. its "still working" aint it ..

Every given hour 5-6 IAF plane in the sky , they keep on practicing and training and designing new tactics. Unlike PAF , IAF has no shortages of fuels.

take high risk and sometimes accident happens due to this. let tell u one thing , ALL IAF planes have engine / S/w modification which can switching off and restart the engine in flight , nor US / EU Plane have this kind of facility.

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-Except plans were already out for SU-30 MKI upgrade, PAK-FA and MMRCA ... but all of a sudden IAF remembered like "you know whattttt ... thiiiis doooesss nottt makee sensee" ... ofcourse in the process you pi$$ed the french enough for them to start rumors of a possible revival of the original JFT deal .. and Russia's DFM to go ahead and talk about a possible deal of SU-35 ..

Lol , the Russian DFM said something you interpreted something , PAK ask Russian about SU and Russian DFM said yes talk is held and you people started flying your horses.

you also asked for SU27, Russian denied after talking with you, History repeated itself again.

Super SU-30MKI already conceived 3 -4 yrs back.

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-Then your point is "you cannot explain AC technology to me" -- the issues are "ego based" which is the reason IAF is not replacing its fleet of air frames that were originally designed/conceived in the 50's with a jet that can do anything the -16's can .. good luck is all I can say to you on this..

IAF have enough 4.5 gen plane in its inventory. they are not in Panic mode.

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-IAF super Sukhoi upgrade ... good for you ... except then again look at the track record of the deals IAF is doing .. MMRCA, PAK-FA etc. Whats to say that the upgrade won't be delayed by the Russians this time, whom you guys screwed out of the MMRCA and totally shocked by reducing a deal to 3 times its original size in PAK-FA ... do you still believe you dictate the terms simply because you have money ... your dependent on them, not the other way around when it comes to Super sukhois ...

lol MIG-29 is already upgraded , SU-30 MKI will be upgraded in India and moreover a Super Su is ready done in few planes.

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-Oh yes after saying that okay, we'll be buying 200 , your going to reduce it to 65 on the premise of we want dual seaters .. you do remember that the original deal in 2010 of 200 included 60 something fgfa's( dual seaters) while the rest were the single seater PAK-Fa's (single seaters) ...so your absolutely right ... incomplete knowledge is dangerous ... thank you for volunteering to prove that once again ...

yes, but did you know IAF going to create different unit of UAV's and also Indian medium plane in an around 2025.

Well you cant see beyond today where IAF seeing beyond 2020 and 2025.

As for your Info , MIG21 Design is the best design of AF till today. MIG-21 is the plane which is responsible to kill you plane in border, your 50 KM distance karachi Radar didnt picked up plane.

 

[Imran Khan]

ladies control your horses

 

[Mrc]

Ok lets declare india a super power officially....

And than may be we can have a discussion around other topics as well on this forum...

 

[alee92nawaz]

Nope , these are real deal while your Chinese JXX was imaginations of PDF nothing else.
India has 224+ Su 30 MKI , 50 Mirages and 66 Mig-29 = 340 upgraded planes. India is in no need of panic state unlike PAK.

India changes plan and modify plane as per time and need. and things changes plane changes and need changes. tejas is inducting as per plan with AESA Radar.


oh did i forget to mentioned , 137 Jag and 85 MIG 27 - 200 More dual engine planes.... Opps ....

500 + planes .... this is more then entire PAF planes.....

Arjun tank under development since stone ......
Tejas will be used in staaar wars...

After fun facts

Your current airforce is reduced to 25 squadrons...
14 of which mig 27 and flying coffins

55 percent mki can only fly due to engine problems and what not...

I mean india knows its okat other wise 71 is enough to remember its back stabbing habbit...

QUOTE="Jf Thunder, post: 7683445, member: 151954"]well lets see, Kargil is the same as before, and you just occupied a barren unoccupied wasteland, bravo
meanwhile 68 years before, we broke India to make the Islamic Republic of Pakistan[ QUOTE]
Lol kargil shows what a few hundred Pakistani soldiers n pathans can do to you guys who captured siachen same way...
Its Pakistani mistake that they didn't go for open war other wise results could have been different

 

[RoadRunner401]

and in that 15 years do you know how many MKI's did we induct .the point is you haven't done anything, to change the qualitative difference in favor of your country

Say Hello to my Little friend JF-17

We can produce as many as we want and when we want.

 

[alee92nawaz]

you don't have this option. If you had this option , your are saying to Chinese your plane is not good , Russian plnaes are better then yours. lol this is called height of stupidity.





Every given hour 5-6 IAF plane in the sky , they keep on practicing and training and designing new tactics. Unlike PAF , IAF has no shortages of fuels.

take high risk and sometimes accident happens due to this. let tell u one thing , ALL IAF planes have engine / S/w modification which can switching off and restart the engine in flight , nor US / EU Plane have this kind of facility.


Lol , the Russian DFM said something you interpreted something , PAK ask Russian about SU and Russian DFM said yes talk is held and you people started flying your horses.

you also asked for SU27, Russian denied after talking with you, History repeated itself again.

Super SU-30MKI already conceived 3 -4 yrs back.





IAF have enough 4.5 gen plane in its inventory. they are not in Panic mode.



lol MIG-29 is already upgraded , SU-30 MKI will be upgraded in India and moreover a Super Su is ready done in few planes.



yes, but did you know IAF going to create different unit of UAV's and also Indian medium plane in an around 2025.

Well you cant see beyond today where IAF seeing beyond 2020 and 2025.

As for your Info , MIG21 Design is the best design of AF till today. MIG-21 is the plane which is responsible to kill you plane in border, your 50 KM distance karachi Radar didnt picked up plane.

Enjoy wet dreams....

You can't even think of any sort of attack otherwise your cuntry could have gone for it....

 

[abdulbarijan]

Lol , if you dont know anything about Plane and its technology , so its better do not comment.

PLAAF planes if cross over Himalayas its only one way right , high Altitude decrease load and performance of plane. So IAF least worried about it as of now. ( IAF building now 2 front war capacity) . since you don't know anything about Airplane technology you better not talk.

Oh really ... China has around 600 Planes +120 Bombers Vs India has 340Planes + 220 bombers ( out of that 300 planes flies of China made engines which is reliability issues and High MTBF.

Mr Cheerleader , Do i tell you about Russian or US planes no against China? get your numbers correct ....

You need proper educations. you cant even know the numbers.....


lol , you started 65 and ended up having nothing , you dream of having Kashmir flopped many times. I feel petty on your when you even dont know about your own country.

Most happening point when your new paper declare victory and you people distributing sweets at same time your gen signing surrender papers. This is the level of awareness u have .

-- I'm sorry sir, Im very poor with numbers ... what can I say .. your complete knowledge of aircrafts and technology had me so intimidated that I forgot basic maths ... so let me just recount to be sure ..

IAF + IN operates 230 odd SU-30's + 50 odd M2K's +60 odd Mig-29's+30 Odd Mig-29 K's for IN + 125 Bisons+85 Mig-23's + 139 Jaguars+150 Mig-27's+13 Harriers for a Grand total of 882 combat aircrafts ...

As for PLAAF/PLAN -- Lets start with SU-27's total of 70+ around 100 SU-30 MKK's + 250 J-11's + 260+ J-10's+240 JH-7's which brings a grand total of around 900+ 4 Generation aircrafts alone .... and we're not even counting J-15's/J-11D's/J-10B's/J-16/15's in this equation since they are the new revelations ... and ofcourse we're not talking about the pre- 4th generation aircrafts of the PLAAF in J-7/J-8/Q-5 etc.

So thank you for pointing out that my math was flawed ... I should not have said that the PLAAF's 4/4+ gen assets equate that of the entire combat fleet of the IAF ... Infact I should've stated that the 4/4+ generation assets of the PLAAF/PLAN exceed that of IAF/IN without even counting a few types of 4+ generation aircrafts ...

and lastly, your argument of high altitudes carry as much weight and coherence as me saying "Pilot flying high .. getting sweaty because he is closer to sun .... less performance ... therefore .. the XYZ airforce is least worried about the ABC airforce" ...

you don't have this option. If you had this option , your are saying to Chinese your plane is not good , Russian plnaes are better then yours. lol this is called height of stupidity.

Every given hour 5-6 IAF plane in the sky , they keep on practicing and training and designing new tactics. Unlike PAF , IAF has no shortages of fuels.

take high risk and sometimes accident happens due to this. let tell u one thing , ALL IAF planes have engine / S/w modification which can switching off and restart the engine in flight , nor US / EU Plane have this kind of facility.

Lol , the Russian DFM said something you interpreted something , PAK ask Russian about SU and Russian DFM said yes talk is held and you people started flying your horses.

you also asked for SU27, Russian denied after talking with you, History repeated itself again.

Super SU-30MKI already conceived 3 -4 yrs back.


IAF have enough 4.5 gen plane in its inventory. they are not in Panic mode.

lol MIG-29 is already upgraded , SU-30 MKI will be upgraded in India and moreover a Super Su is ready done in few planes.

yes, but did you know IAF going to create different unit of UAV's and also Indian medium plane in an around 2025.

Well you cant see beyond today where IAF seeing beyond 2020 and 2025.

As for your Info , MIG21 Design is the best design of AF till today. MIG-21 is the plane which is responsible to kill you plane in border, your 50 KM distance karachi Radar didnt picked up plane.

-Wow sir, Im just in awe of your "knowledge" and grip on the matters of defense ... I mean ... After all ,in your world, negotiating for a Russian jet for PAF, while it has not rejected the Chinese option ... but mere initial talks for SU-35 are enough to suggest that the J-10 was rejected .... and lets not discount the fact that contingencies are always in place .. But then again sir... you are absolutely right ... because you know the PAF more then all of us puny minded people..

-Yes the great IAF keeps on designing tactics etc. unlike the puny little PAF ... After all, you don't get the worst crash record without practicing and practicing ..

-ohh so IAF fighters have engines ... tell us more sir .. enlighten us .. of what else the IAF fighters have ...

-Ofcourse sir, we Pakistanis lack common comprehension, ofcourse the Russian DFM was talking about how the Russians were in talks for MI-35 and SU-35 to India ... He just mistakened one country for another... happens sometimes ...right sir ??

- and when was that SU-27 episode again .. Last I remember somebody tried to butt in when Russians were agreeing to provide us with RD-93 ... which is why the entire JF-17 fleet doesn't operate RD-93's .. or does it ... double checked .. it does!

-Already "conceived" -- the MMRCA was conceived in the early 2000's ... how did that one go ... or the PAk-FA deal or the LCA .. the list goes on ...

IAF is not in panic mode .. which is why continuous reports are getting published on the diminishing strength of the IAF .. as far as UAV goes, we have an armed UAV right NOW! ... and please continue with your forward thinking .. really helps our cause ...

 

[Jf Thunder]

lol , you started 65 and ended up having nothing , you dream of having Kashmir flopped many times. I feel petty on your when you even dont know about your own country.

Most happening point when your new paper declare victory and you people distributing sweets at same time your gen signing surrender papers. This is the level of awareness u have .

were you a witness then?

 

[Jf Thunder]

Lol , if you dont know anything about Plane and its technology , so its better do not comment.

PLAAF planes if cross over Himalayas its only one way right , high Altitude decrease load and performance of plane. So IAF least worried about it as of now. ( IAF building now 2 front war capacity) . since you don't know anything about Airplane technology you better not talk.

Oh really ... China has around 600 Planes +120 Bombers Vs India has 340Planes + 220 bombers ( out of that 300 planes flies of China made engines which is reliability issues and High MTBF.

Mr Cheerleader , Do i tell you about Russian or US planes no against China? get your numbers correct ....

You need proper educations. you cant even know the numbers.....


lol , you started 65 and ended up having nothing , you dream of having Kashmir flopped many times. I feel petty on your when you even dont know about your own country.

Most happening point when your new paper declare victory and you people distributing sweets at same time your gen signing surrender papers. This is the level of awareness u have .

and you were a witness to that?

Lol , if you dont know anything about Plane and its technology , so its better do not comment.

PLAAF planes if cross over Himalayas its only one way right , high Altitude decrease load and performance of plane. So IAF least worried about it as of now. ( IAF building now 2 front war capacity) . since you don't know anything about Airplane technology you better not talk.

Oh really ... China has around 600 Planes +120 Bombers Vs India has 340Planes + 220 bombers ( out of that 300 planes flies of China made engines which is reliability issues and High MTBF.

Mr Cheerleader , Do i tell you about Russian or US planes no against China? get your numbers correct ....

You need proper educations. you cant even know the numbers.....


lol , you started 65 and ended up having nothing , you dream of having Kashmir flopped many times. I feel petty on your when you even dont know about your own country.

Most happening point when your new paper declare victory and you people distributing sweets at same time your gen signing surrender papers. This is the level of awareness u have .

and you were a witness to that?

 

[pigtaker]

We have 140KN+ WS-10B For J10B right now! Bye Bye AL-31F,X,N ...

you moronic imbecile what did you want to show off in this thread? didn't you notice no chinese posters participate in this kind of discussion? those pakistans had higher bar for their equipment, best from west, or at least from russian.

 

[unleashed]

ATLEAST NOT WASTING 15 YEARS FOR MRCA

and 40 years for TEJA bhai..

 

[Thunder.Storm]

You people have wasted 70 years and hundreds of billions of dollars in destroying Pakistan.....what's the big deal if they wasted 10 years???? They are still standing strong and powerful and keeping you in your place.....

that's very logical and good comment.

 

[HttpError]

You people have wasted 70 years and hundreds of billions of dollars in destroying Pakistan.....what's the big deal if they wasted 10 years???? They are still standing strong and powerful and keeping you in your place.....

We will always keep India in its place. The real Place where they belong.

 

[Pomegranate]

5 years you wasted in dreaming for J10 and now another 5 years for dreaming Su-35?

while you can play with tejas .......