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China may export J-10B fighters with Russian AL31FN-S3 engines to Pakistan

guess what wise *** i am Pakistani, my great granddad was born on the Pakistani side of kashmir and grandparents came to the uk at a very young age parents obviously born in the uk too as am i. i consider my self pure british, if my thoughts hurt you, then i cant care less. about your feelings/opinions. if you're wrong i will point it out.

I also have plenty relative like you (born/living abroad since grandparents migrated) but they don't know much of Pakistan even they think so. Many top projects and details usually came to know to other people in Pakistan but still usually kept secret. If you watch Pakistani media you will know how usually they get and show classified reports.
 
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iv been to Pakistan recently (march) i know quite alot, i read the news there about once a week from dawn. i am studying defence and politics and specialise in Asia. i know a lot. yes thing are kept secret which is why you dont know nothing but stir the choosa too much

Dear I have worked in MoD so don't tell me how things work here.
 
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Lets come on topic and dear basel if u worked mod than plz tell some thing about PN future procurment plans atleast we know our harbours also served with reliable weapons if you compare faith as we have on army airforce we dont have on navy as there are few grey areas in navy i hope u bring some hope for us regarding naval procurement
 
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Pakistan may be first buyer of China's J-10 fighter jets: expert
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Published: August 18, 2015
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A military expert revealed on Tuesday that Pakistan may be the first buyer of China’s J-10 fighter jet which was initially set to be sold to Iran after the lifting of UN sanctions.

Fu Qianshao, an aviation equipment expert with the People’s Liberation Army Air Force, said that Pakistan may overtake Tehran in becoming the first overseas buyer of the multi-role aircraft, which Chinese experts claim is comparable to the latest version of the US’ F-16 Fighting Falcon.

Citing Japanese website The Diplomat, the report said Pakistan had signed a deal for the purchase of 36 J-10 jets in 2009.

Read: China to deliver 50 more JF-17 Thunder jets to Pakistan

The report further stated that Pakistan, which jointly produces the J-17 Thunder fighter aircraft, had been showing interest to acquire J-10, while adding that China was wooing Iran to buy 150 J-10s.

“Once the sanctions against Iran are completely lifted, the country will definitely renovate its civilian and military aircraft fleets. The J-10 is a good option for the Iranians because it can fulfill all operations they want to conduct,” said Wang Yanan, Deputy Editor-in-chief ofAerospace Knowledge Magazine.

Yanan’s remarks came in the backdrop of speculation in foreign media that China and Iran are discussing a deal for 150 J-10 fighter jets.

Read: JF-17s Thunder-ous welcome for Xi

“It is natural that Iran is interested in the J-10. Iran has a very limited range of choice in terms of arms procurement. In regard to military aircraft deals, I guess it can only choose between China and Russia,” Fu said.

Fu added, ”The J-10 is able to confront any of the third-generation fighter jets operated by Iran’s neighbouring countries because it features supreme maneuverability, strong firepower and cutting-edge avionic equipment.”

This article originally appeared on The Economic Times
 
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Highly doubt it, even as a stop gap. With the near death of the Indian Rafale deal, there is no longer an urgent need.

It's already been said before, PAF will most likely go straight for a 5th Gen. If a stop gap is needed, PAF will opt for more second hand f-16s.
 
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Highly doubt it, even as a stop gap. With the near death of the Indian Rafale deal, there is no longer an urgent need.

It's already been said before, PAF will most likely go straight for a 5th Gen. If a stop gap is needed, PAF will opt for more second hand f-16s.


I also doubt that taken into account of need/threat assessment (threat isn't high), budget allocation and limited supply (of J10 production). PAF/PAC should not complicate existing logistics management by introducing additional platform, rather should focus on JF17 Block 2/3, electronic warfare, net-centric capability, and make long term preparation for next gen (say jointly develop 5G).
 
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Pakistan should not waste its limited money on J10 B .. Because J10 Isn't giving any extraordinary advantage to our current f16 and Future JF17 fleet ... JF 17 can fire every thing which J10 B can ..

In order to gain superiority try to focus on 5th generation fighter with few 4++ generation fighters ...

better to go for more F16 with V upgrade
 
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J-10 is not better then F16 block 52 or mlu ones. Then why PAF induct another fourth generation fighter plane. If they require more jets they will induct JF-17 and F-16.
 
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Pakistan should not waste its limited money on J10 B .. Because J10 Isn't giving any extraordinary advantage to our current f16 and Future JF17 fleet ... JF 17 can fire every thing which J10 B can ..

In order to gain superiority try to focus on 5th generation fighter with few 4++ generation fighters ...

better to go for more F16 with V upgrade

You are right. I wouldn't even consider bringing more F16, in order to keep logistics simple and preserve more resources for other means. In a peace time economy like now, balancing existing defense need and long term growth is important. Pakistan is not a small country, PAF/PAC should put more priority on reinvesting indigenous defense industry (e.g. current JF17 program, future 5G), which benefits national strength/defense in the long run.
 
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After F-16 Block 52s have been inducted and infused successfully into PAF, why look back? PAF should prepare for J-31s as soon as it comes online. We can only be compelled to go for J-10s if their is rush in heavy buying spree across our eastern border, which for time being is not. So concentrate on JF-17s and bring in AESA radar and allied avionics upgrades asap.
 
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I read once in defence journals of Europe and US, Pakistan was interested and evaluated Eurofighter Typhoon. What happened to that?

We need an aircradft like Eurofighter. J-10 is very similar to JF-17 so it does not affect or multiplies force for PAF.
 
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We are interested in lots of things then....

Why are we playing peek a boo with j10s?
 
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