people stand up and die，lol.I don't go to uganda because Uganda is better than North korea.ridiculous.Chinese nowaday is far worse than many dynasties in their times，that is a fact and so come the words“中华民族复兴梦”.Whatever，this conversation with you is meaningless and I will stop here.
I think so, too,
A militarily agressive country is surely more fearsome even though the country is very poor.Most of dynasty/country that just created in fire and blood is surely more fearsome than a wealthy and harmonious country.If that is your point then I agree with you,but it doesn't have much thing to do with this thread.
I'm merely pointing out that Mao was a great leader that westerners (including governments) feared and respected at the same time. Little Viets and Pinoys don't even fear modern China.
I don't think judging a leader is whether "great" or "bad" by if he is military agressive or not is right.In this case,North korea leaders,Saddam,Kaddafi would be all great.That is clearly bullshit.I judge if a leader is good or not by how people lives fristly.And I don't worship leaders like many Chinese do.
You raise the old question in ethics between the intent of one's actions and their effects. However, given Mao's record - specifically the millions who starved and were impoverished in the Great Leap Forward - it is my judgement that Mao does not deserve the benefit of doubt: he had a pretty good idea of the human suffering involved.
The Soviet and Maoist collectivizations killed so many tens of millions that their economic and demographic impacts changed the histories - perhaps destinies - of both China and Russia.
Mao recognized the CR as a near-total failure. If anything, it was counterproductive, for its senseless terror re-established the desire for the stability offered by a lasting establishment, family structure, and practical bureaucratic institutions at the expense of Communist ideology.
Good job to put all death on them, seems without them, people will live rich and well, hehe.
Whether they are heros, or stay in the trash bin of history, not decided by you American or Indian, seems you think you are somebody, you are?
These two great men of course is not liked by your western, Mao kick American and Indian ***, of course, you hate him, sorry, they don't care your attitude to them, in his eyes, you are nobody, even in my eyes, you too,
They are always great man, the hero in their people, be remembered by their people, but you are not even qualified in the trash bin of history.
Hehe, largest? Maybe Qing made great achievement, they also lost great land, be bullied by foreigner, but Mao lead Chinese stand up, Mao made blunder, also make great contribution to China, Qing too, If Mao is nothing, hehe, Who is something?
You should better live in late Qing, if you can.
From his comments, you can feel, he hate CCP too much, think we are slave of CCP, no difference between CCP and Qing, he just don't want be slave, I think, he should not be CCP, let alone official.
You can find it in 103th page of 1983年统计年鉴，Appearently population of China reduced by 14 millions in 59-61.You can have a wild guess about how many people were starved to death in those years.
I prefer Qing empire much more.After all,they conquered the largest landmass in the whole Chinese history.Compared to Qing dinasty,mao is nothing.
