China makes inroads in Sri Lanka

[Götterdämmerung]

So Hitler never stood for Germany???

What? You know that we call ourself Deutsch, right? The full name of the Third Reich was "das Dritte Deutsche Reich".

 

[INDIC]

Why do you think he called the Nazi regime Third Reich, genius? Is it maybe because he saw himself as the legitimate successor of two previous Reich, the Heilig Römische Reich Deutscher Nation and the Deutsche Reich?

Hitlers propaganda picture: King Frederic, Bismarck, Hindenburg, Hitler

Orly? What about the many independence movements that are still happening in India?

How do you explain the ongoing paralysis in democratic Belgium between the Flemish and Wallonian and the Scottish independence movement in the UK? Both countries are more democratic than India and have been much longer a nation state than India.



Since when does the one who makes a claim asking the doubter to prove him right? Are you all right up there?

Ha ha I expected something liked this from you. What independent movement, all of them has ended or last stage. But there can't any thing more artificial like communist state.

What? You know that we call ourself Deutschland, right?

Although you are a false flag but isn't hitler was from Austria part of Dual kingdoms of Austrian Germans and Magyars.

 

[harpoon]

What? You know that we call ourself Deutsch, right? The full name of the Third Reich was "das Dritte Deutsche Reich".

I know what Deutschland is..just wanted to know how Delhi changing hands in the medieval times differ from Berlin changing hands b/n third Reich & Weimar Republic. Also IIRC, Germany existed as a single nation since 1871-1945 & then 1989- date. Does that make Germany less of a nation when compared to China.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

China naval base in sri lanka will not happen now due to china doesn't have a blue water navy and sri lanka is still rebuilding, china has played it smart investing in Sri Lanka, Also SAARC has been a failure this is india fault the organization is useless it should be scarped or the countries withdraw from it, Sri Lanka well done keep building your Economy.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

Ha ha I expected something liked this from you. What independent movement, all of them has ended or last stage. But there can't any thing more artificial like communist state.

So, they did exist and died down due to "incidents" like Operation Blue Star.

Here is quite a long list of separatist movements in India

Separatist movements of India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Google search result of separatist movements in India
indian separatist movement - Google-Suche

Although you are a false flag but isn't hitler was from Austria part of Dual kingdoms of Austrian Germans and Magyars.

I see, you don't dare t give me proofs about Han ethnic claim so you make wild accusations about my ethnic background. Loser!

I know what Deutschland is..just wanted to know how Delhi changing hands in the medieval times differ from Berlin changing hands b/n third Reich & Weimar Republic. Also IIRC, Germany existed as a single nation since 1871-1945 & then 1989- date. Does that make Germany less of a nation when compared to China.

The first Reich existed till 1806 with successive German Kaisers. The period between 1806 and 1871 Germany was fragmented into many small states and city states, but the idea of a united Germany never vanished. The German national anthem starts with "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, über alles in der Welt" means nothing more than the goal of a "united" Germany stands above all the fragmented states. The time between 1945 to 1989 was a second fragmentation of Germany but Germany never ceased to exist in that time just like China never ceased to exist during the warlord period.

You still couldn't explain to me how succession was handled in medieval Delhi.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Lol at the sinhala who talks of Zeng He but does not know where his ancestors came from.

And the guttersomething does not even hide his false flags anymore. Good.

In any case such investments pose no threat to india unless SL moves their island somewher off the coast of china, india should call their bluff and ask SL to allow a foreign military base on their soil. As to political support, there is not a murderous regime chinis do not support. Congratulations SL.

 

[samv]

Lol at the sinhala who talks of Zeng He but does not know where his ancestors came from.

And the guttersomething does not even hide his false flags anymore. Good.

In any case such investments pose no threat to india unless SL moves their island somewher off the coast of china, india should call their bluff and ask SL to allow a foreign military base on their soil. As to political support, there is not a murderous regime chinis do not support. Congratulations SL.

Given India's support for terrorism in Sri Lanka, and its politicians continuous support for separatism, I doubt most Sri Lankans would accept an Indian military base in the island if that's what you're referring to. But Sri Lanka will continue to accept Chinese investments whether India likes it or not; I do not see why Sri Lanka's development should be held hostage to the whims and fancies of Indian jingoists who hate China and the Chinese for no reason. It is India's fault that it has ignored its smaller neighbours for so many decades, and India's fault that it has adopted spiteful policies towards these neighbours. Mind you, this condescending and self-defeating attitude is fully reversible - if India wants. Meanwhile, there is no point pointing fingers at others really, for one's own apathy and lethargy. Now that Sri Lanka has defeated Indian-sponsored terrorism in the island it is time to develop the country and the economy and provide its citizens with a higher quality of life. If India wishes to be a part of that development it should be welcomed, but if not, it does not matter.

As for moving the island, perhaps you're right - Sri Lanka would be likely far better off without India as its neighbour. A calm revision of the last few decades will show that India has given Sri Lanka nothing but trouble, terrorism, and political interference in the affairs of the island.

 

[samv]

Guys, this is about Chinese investment in Sri Lanka, where do all these "ancient monks, communist" come from? As to the encirclement, China doesn't need to build road, airport and other infrastructures if it wants to encircle India, one military base is good enough. Cannot we interpret this as "Chinese companies try to make money in Sri Lanka because of its geographic location?" I agree this is not charity but in the meantime Sri Lanka also benefit from it. A stable and prosperous Sri Lanka is also of Indian's interest, isn't it?

Well said. Unfortunately, there seems to be an emerging paranoia among some sections of the Indian population and perhaps among the policy makers. All of India's neighbours are starting to look like "enemies" with secret agendas - even the the small countries that live in India's shadow. Personally I have no idea how China building a highway in Sri Lanka or a power plant or a commercial port can be remotely seen as a "threat" to India unless a developing, stable and prosperous Sri Lanka is somehow threat to India? To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

SAARC was mostly a failure due to India. and India is only turning it's attention to Sri Lanka in due to China, India would have loved an Eelam craved out of Sri Lanka.

 

[Skyline]

SAARC was mostly a failure due to India. and India is only turning it's attention to Sri Lanka in due to China, India would have loved an Eelam craved out of Sri Lanka.

I disagree with this, Tamils in north is around 900,000 only, it's around 4.2% of whole population. In eastern province Tamils are around 500,000. Rest of Tamils live in other parts. Even Tamilnadu Tamils support Tamils in SL, there are pro LTTE and anti-LTTE Tamil groups. Again SL president able to secure around 37% Tamil votes in the north. Even in the last presidential election both President Rajapaksha and former Army commander shared all Tamil votes from North. If there was serious human rights violations then Tamils should have voted for Tamil presidential candidate.

India faced this situation coz of political dramas of Tamil politicians of Tamilnadu. TN politicians say SL is insecure place for Tamils, If then it is hilarious some people from Tamilnadu work here in paddy fields and roadside sellers abusing tourist visas.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

I disagree with this, Tamils in north is around 900,000 only, it's around 4.2% of whole population. In eastern province Tamils are around 500,000. Rest of Tamils live in other parts. Even Tamilnadu Tamils support Tamils in SL, there are pro LTTE and anti-LTTE Tamil groups. Again SL president able to secure around 37% Tamil votes in the north. Even in the last presidential election both President Rajapaksha and former Army commander shared all Tamil votes from North. If there was serious human rights violations then Tamils should have voted for Tamil presidential candidate.

India faced this situation coz of political dramas of Tamil politicians of Tamilnadu. TN politicians say SL is insecure place for Tamils, If then it is hilarious some people from Tamilnadu work here in paddy fields and roadside sellers abusing tourist visas.

Yes I agree the trouble India caused by allowing LTTE training and Terror camps in Sri Lanka and India wouldn't even sell defensive weapons.

 

[harpoon]

The first Reich existed till 1806 with successive German Kaisers. The period between 1806 and 1871 Germany was fragmented into many small states and city states, but the idea of a united Germany never vanished. The German national anthem starts with "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, über alles in der Welt" means nothing more than the goal of a "united" Germany stands above all the fragmented states. The time between 1945 to 1989 was a second fragmentation of Germany but Germany never ceased to exist in that time just like China never ceased to exist during the warlord period.

You are just playing with words here. History shows that a united Germany only existed from 1871. The lyrics to the national anthem can be traced a little back to 1841. Before that Germany never existed as a one nation...only kingdoms.

You still couldn't explain to me how succession was handled in medieval Delhi.

Internal struggle, external struggle & peaceful transition.

SAARC was mostly a failure due to India. and India is only turning it's attention to Sri Lanka in due to China, India would have loved an Eelam craved out of Sri Lanka.

You claimed to be an expert on SL, then you should also understand that if India intended we could have carved out an Eelam in mid 80s itself. Don't pretend to be an authority on which you have no knowledge of.

If then it is hilarious some people from Tamilnadu work here in paddy fields and roadside sellers abusing tourist visas.

First time I am hearing this. Any source to back it up.

 

[INDIC]

So, they did exist and died down due to "incidents" like Operation Blue Star.

Here is quite a long list of separatist movements in India

Separatist movements of India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Google search result of separatist movements in India
indian separatist movement - Google-Suche




I see, you don't dare t give me proofs about Han ethnic claim so you make wild accusations about my ethnic background. Loser!



The first Reich existed till 1806 with successive German Kaisers. The period between 1806 and 1871 Germany was fragmented into many small states and city states, but the idea of a united Germany never vanished. The German national anthem starts with "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, über alles in der Welt" means nothing more than the goal of a "united" Germany stands above all the fragmented states. The time between 1945 to 1989 was a second fragmentation of Germany but Germany never ceased to exist in that time just like China never ceased to exist during the warlord period.

You still couldn't explain to me how succession was handled in medieval Delhi.

wikipedia.

 

[harpoon]

Yes I agree the trouble India caused by allowing LTTE training and Terror camps in Sri Lanka and India wouldn't even sell defensive weapons.

Hey genuis.. who the hell then sold (or given free of charge) SLA radars to detect LTTE airplanes??

Also LTTE could never have defeated without Indian help. If SL claims that they defeated LTTE without Indian help its just as claiming Taliban was defeated without no help from Pakistan. Its just not possible.

 

[Skyline]

First time I am hearing this. Any source to back it up.

First time you're hearing this? lol Here's your beloved TN brothers' activities.

Three Indians arrested in Sri Lanka for visa abuse - PTI -

Colombo, Dec 7 (PTI) Three Indians have been arrested by Sri Lankan authorities from eastern part of the country on charges of abuse of tourist visas as they were found engaged in business activities, which is illegal for visitors. Two of them were arrested from Kalmunai
while the other one from Batticaloa for selling clothes, police said today, adding they were later produced before the magistrate courts. Six Indians, on tourist visa, had also been arrested in November for doing business illegally in the east. .....

Six Indians arrested in Sri Lanka on charges of visa abuse - Economic Times

COLOMBO: Six Indian nationals have been arrested in Sri Lanka's eastern province on charges of abusing visit visas by indulging in textile trading.

The six, who had arrived here on visit visas, were found engaged in textile trading in the eastern town of Kalmunai, police said.

They were selling textiles in a roadside market when they were arrested, police said, adding the six would be produced before the Kalmunai magistrate.

Indian national arrested in Vavuniya

INDIAN NATIONAL ARRESTED IN VAVUNIYA
April 7, 2012 10:19 am

An Indian national has been arrested by Vavuniya Police for engaging textile trade without a license. Police said the suspect was arrested while selling textiles in the pavement in the Vavuniya town.

He is scheduled to be produced before the Vavuniya Magistrate’s Court today (April 07).

250 visa overstayers deported

June 6, 2012

Authorities deported nearly 250 foreigners found to have violated Sri Lankan visa regulations during the last five months. They include 137 Indians, the largest by any country and 38 Pakistanis. There were also 17 Thai nationals, Emigration and Immigration Department’s Investigation Unit head Amitha Perera said. “Those deported include overstayers as well as those found to have misused their visas and engaged in unlawful activities,” he said.

A senior official of the Department told the Daily News recently there may be over 20,000 visa overstayers in the country.

Asked to comment, Perera said he could not give an exact figure, but added his Department had recently taken measures to identify overstayers and visa law breakers. According to authorities, the majority of illegal immigrants on Sri Lankan soil are from South Asian and East Asian countries.

Some are allegedly involved in illegal activities including drug trafficking, human smuggling, prostitution etc.

Some others have been found to be engaged in employment or business activities after arriving in the country on tourist visas. Authorities have found foreigners working in hotels, jewellery shops, construction sites, factories, street stalls etc while on visit visas.

Engaging in employment or business activities without prior approval while on tourist visas is banned for foreigners, according to the Sri Lankan law.

In 2011, 366 foreigners were expelled from the country for violating local visa laws. In 2010 and 2009, over 300 were deported.

The Investigation Unit arrested over 400 foreigners for overstaying and illegal businesses and employment in 2006, while in 2007 and 2008 more than 400 illegal immigrants were arrested and deported after investigations.

The Department has taken steps to develop a comprehensive data base to identify visa overstayers .

In 2011, 366 foreigners were expelled from the country for violating local visa laws. In 2010 and 2009, over 300 were deported.

The Investigation Unit arrested over 400 foreigners for overstaying and illegal businesses and employment in 2006, while in 2007 and 2008 more than 400 illegal immigrants were arrested and deported after investigations.

The Department has taken steps to develop a comprehensive data base to identify visa overstayers, the Government Info. Department reported.

Hey genuis.. who the hell then sold (or given free of charge) SLA radars to detect LTTE airplanes??

Also LTTE could never have defeated without Indian help. If SL claims that they defeated LTTE without Indian help its just as claiming Taliban was defeated without no help from Pakistan. Its just not possible.

When SL trying to have 3D radar system from Israel, India blocked it and gave 2D radar system. Then Sri Lanka got 3D-radar system from China.

Indian 2D radar system wasn't capable of detecting low flying planes.