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China makes 2 incursion attempts in 3 days in Ladakh as Modi meets Xi

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At a time when Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping emphasised on the need to find a solution to the Boundary Question, two incursions by the Chinese troops have been reported in the Ladakh sector in the past three days.

The incursion bids by the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) were reported in Demchok and Chumar areas of Ladakh sector in Jammu and Kashmir but were pushed back into their territory by Indian security personnel.

Modi and Jinping met in Fortaleza, Brazil, Monday night on the sidelines of the BRICS summit.

The latest incident occurred in Charding Nilu Nullah Junction (CNNJ) in Demchok sector on Tuesday when PLA personnel entered the area on their vehicles in the wee hours claiming it was Chinese territory, official sources said on Wednesday.

The PLA soldiers, who wanted to have a round of the area, were stopped by the Indian Army and personnel of Indo Tibetan Border Police(ITBP), a force which guards the India-China border.

After a 30-minute long stand-off followed by a banner drill where armies of both the countries warned each other against moving a step forward, the Chinese PLA returned to their side, the sources said.

The Chinese troops, riding on horses, had earlier entered through Chumar area on July 13 only to be confronted by Indian soldiers and after the usual banner drill between the two sides, the PLA patrol returned to their territory.

The incident took place at Patrol Point number 62, the sources said.

Located 300 km east of Leh, Chumar has been an epicentre of heightened activities of the PLA who had been making increased attempts to enter through this region as India has a dominance in this sector.

Chumar, a remote village on Ladakh-Himachal Pradesh border, has been an issue for Chinese who claim it to be their own territory and have been frequenting it with helicopter incursions almost every year. In 2011, it dropped some of the soldiers of PLA in this region and dismantled the makeshift storage tents of the Army and ITBP.

This area is not accessible from the Chinese side whereas the Indian side have a road almost to the last point on which the Army can carry a load up to nine tonnes.

Chumar had become a flash point during the fortnight long stand-off last year in Daulat Beg Oldie (DBO) last year as the Chinese side had objected to overhead bunkers erected by the Indian side.

As part of an agreement reached at the flag meeting to end the stand-off from April-May 2013 at DBO, India had to dismantle some overhead bunkers in Chumar.

Again, Chumar witnessed Chinese troops walking away with an Army surveillance camera on June 16 last year which was meant for keeping an eye on the PLA troops patrolling there.

The same camera was returned after a few days.

China makes 2 incursion attempts in 3 days in Ladakh as Modi meets Xi
 
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PLA wont to grab as much land & water as possible before settlement of border issue
 
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Clearly, CCP has lost PLA's control. This regime seems to be more like an arrangement between the two groups.
I agree. Though officially the PLA is supposed to be under the CPC, they have now become bigger than the Party. It's the PLA that calls the shots. It seems even their President Xi Jinping has no control over them. They seem to have gone berserk!

Look what's happening in the South China Sea too. The CPC it seems has little or no control over the shenanigans of the PLA, PLAN, PLAAF etc. Looks like the CPC has lost the plot! And that is dangerous.
 
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I agree. Though officially the PLA is supposed to be under the CPC, they have now become bigger than the Party. It's the PLA that calls the shots. It seems even their President Xi Jinping has no control over them. They seem to have gone berserk!

Look what's happening in the South China Sea too. The CPC it seems has little or no control over the shenanigans of the PLA, PLAN, PLAAF etc. Looks like the CPC has lost the plot! And that is dangerous.
Do you know why developed nations or semi developed nations have no Coups? Most soldiers are only there for 2 years and then they go back to university, or other apprenticeship jobs, and they begin their live. Military is but a learning experience.

PLA is doing exactly what the government wants, they want war, yet war has not happened. You know why they want war? It's like if a sportsmen practice all their life to never compete once competitively.

Chinese army is far more secure than Indian army, because our soldiers after they return to civilian life, they got tons of options, being a soldier is a good thing to put on a resume.

Why do you think only India is reporting? Cause nobody on the Chinese side thinks this is anything. It's disputed territory, it's not like you guys never did the same, who knows where the line is. It's not like they made it to Dehli.

Your media hypes up the most stupid things.
 
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Do you know why developed nations or semi developed nations have no Coups? Most soldiers are only there for 2 years and then they go back to university, or other apprenticeship jobs, and they begin their live. Military is but a learning experience.

PLA is doing exactly what the government wants, they want war, yet war has not happened. You know why they want war? It's like if a sportsmen practice all their life to never compete once competitively.

Chinese army is far more secure than Indian army, because our soldiers after they return to civilian life, they got tons of options, being a soldier is a good thing to put on a resume.

Why do you think only India is reporting? Cause nobody on the Chinese side thinks this is anything. It's disputed territory, it's not like you guys never did the same, who knows where the line is. It's not like they made it to Dehli.

Your media hypes up the most stupid things.

This is coming as a shock considering that you were so rattled when Norway awarded a dissident some Nobel prize.

Please sort your own self before telling others what is stupid and what is not.

Transgression of the border will simply not be appreciated.

Start the usual garbage. Pile it high. China routinely violates Indian sovereignty. Apparently, even Pakistan does (along LOC). Where are the 'Modi will teach Pakistan a lesson' fans here?

Long term solutions take time. Something that Pakistan doesn't have and PLA is misusing.
 
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Where are the Indians here who were harping on NATO/US incursions into Pakistan?

What the point of mentioning this?

The region which we are talking about is a disputed area, with no marking or whatsoever! They cross what we see as our border and go away, unlike NATO forces bombing and killing hundreds of people over the past years and launching commando operations to kill OBL.
 
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Start the usual garbage. Pile it high. China routinely violates Indian sovereignty. Apparently, even Pakistan does (along LOC). Where are the 'Modi will teach Pakistan a lesson' fans here?
China is not violating sovereignty. We are hyping things up..well our media is.

The border is not clear and is open. We patrol till what we think is ours, they patrol what they think is theirs. Our media claims our sovereignty was violated.

If the Chinese media were free, they would also report the same. That Indian soldiers violated China's sovereignty. Fortunately, Beijing controls the media.

On the other hand with Pakistan we have a defined LoC. And any violations of that results in counter violations and counter killings.

Why do you think only India is reporting? Cause nobody on the Chinese side thinks this is anything. It's disputed territory, it's not like you guys never did the same, who knows where the line is. It's not like they made it to Dehli.

Your media hypes up the most stupid things.
I agree

Clearly, CCP has lost PLA's control. This regime seems to be more like an arrangement between the two groups.
Read my post.
 
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China should be careful as Modi jio as PM of India. They shouldn't do such provocations.
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Well not really. Keep it going PLA. :).
 
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