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China lavishes aid on Gwadar raising suspicions in US, India

Same question for you, do you think Chinese are stupid enough to invest billions let alone USD 1 million, its USA and India who is crying about the project, All I am saying is when the US had a golden opportunity to invest but now that opportunity has been taken by China.
They are not behind you for returns, they are here for increasing their influence and yes they will suck the blood out of you for when the time comes....you are in serious trouble if you don't pay them back their money...
 
They are not behind you for returns, they are here for increasing their influence and yes they will suck the blood out of you for when the time comes....you are in serious trouble if you don't pay them back their money...

US was/is also here for there interests and influence, they are not here bcoz they love your ganga kind,

China is big reality of this region, not Yanks, its you who have to decide the path not us..

and don't worry about our debts, worry about your $52 billion yearly trade deficit with our iron brother, anyways world trust us and lend us money, unlike your country which have to give her gold to IMF for $$ in 90's..
 
lol Chinese hates India because India has territorial disputes with China.

China and India don't hate each other, rather there are great differences and it's not because of territorial disputes alone. Even if the disputes are settled amicability the differences will still exist. To put it simple it's the game between two regional powers trying for their own hegemony around the region. :):):)

China will help Gwadar grow because it helps Chinese interests.

Very true. It's China's hedge, insurance in case their traditional transshipment routes are disrupted in the event of any future conflict. So yes, it's more strategic than economic, but the irony is they are making you pay to safeguarding their security. LOL :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Its a loan and investment for power and infrastructure development which benefited two not any Charity or Aid.
 
US was/is also here for there interests and influence, they are not here bcoz they love your ganga kind,

China is big reality of this region, not Yanks, its you who have to decide the path not us..

and don't worry about our debts, worry about your $52 billion yearly trade deficit with our iron brother, anyways world trust us and lend us money, unlike your country which have to give her gold to IMF for $$ in 90's..

LOL, is this your understanding of economics ???? World don't trust you that's why they lend you money with written agreements so that they will get it back, but never ready to invest a lot because there is no guarantee on that. Even your Iron brother is Investing many time more in India rather than Pakistan. Do introspect, why ??? :p:
 
LOL, is this your understanding of economics ???? World don't trust you that's why they lend you money with written agreements so that they will get it back, but never ready to invest a lot because there is no guarantee on that. Even your Iron brother is Investing many time more in India rather than Pakistan. Do introspect, why ??? :p:

as expected, low IQ bharati, no one lend money without written agreement..

CPEC is investment but you bhartis wont accept it even in your dream :meeting:

35 billion for energy projects on BOT bases..

Rest 11 billion soft loan for rail road infrastructure.

Yeah Chinese will keep investing in ganga bcoz you are financing a CPEC every year for China :lol: $52 billion trade deficit... lol

On other hand they are working with Pakistan to increase Pakistan's exports in China, ready to renegotiate FTA's etc.
 
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China lavishes aid on Gwadar raising suspicions in US, India
By Reuters
Published: December 18, 2017
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A general view of Gwadar port in Gwadar, Pakistan October 4, 2017. PHOTO: REUTERS

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GWADAR: China is lavishing vast amounts of aid on a small Pakistani fishing town to win over locals and build a commercial deep-water port that the United States (US) and India suspect may also one day serve the Chinese navy.

Beijing has built a school, sent doctors and pledged about $500 million in grants for an airport, hospital, college and badly-needed water infrastructure for Gwadar, a dusty town whose harbour juts out into the Arabian Sea, overlooking some of the world’s busiest oil and gas shipping lanes.

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The grants include $230 million for a new international airport, one of the largest such disbursements China has made abroad, according to researchers and Pakistani officials.

The handouts for the Gwadar project are a departure from Beijing’s usual approach in other countries. China has traditionally derided Western-style aid in favour of infrastructure projects for which it normally provides loans through Chinese state-owned commercial and development banks.

“The concentration of grants is quite striking,” said Andrew Small, an author of a book on China-Pakistan relations and a Washington-based researcher at the German Marshall Fund think tank.

“China largely doesn’t do aid or grants, and when it has done them, they have tended to be modest.”

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Fishermen take out their catch from the sea at the end of the day in Gwadar, Pakistan October 4, 2017. PHOTO: REUTERS

Pakistan has welcomed the aid with open hands. However, Beijing’s unusual largesse has also fuelled suspicions in the US and India that Gwadar is part of China’s future geostrategic plans to challenge US naval dominance.

“It all suggests that Gwadar, for a lot of people in China, is not just a commercial proposition over the longer term,” Small said.

The Chinese Foreign Ministry did not respond to a request for comment.

Beijing and Islamabad see Gwadar as the future jewel in the crown of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a flagship of Beijing’s Belt and Road initiative to build a new “Silk Road” of land and maritime trade routes across more than 60 countries in Asia, Europe and Africa.

The plan is to turn Gwadar into a trans-shipment hub and megaport to be built alongside special economic zones from which export-focused industries will ship goods worldwide. A web of energy pipelines, roads and rail links will connect Gwadar to China’s western regions.

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Port trade is expected to grow from 1.2 million tonnes in 2018 to about 13 million tonnes by 2022, Pakistani officials say. At the harbour, three new cranes have been installed and dredging will next year deepen the port depth to 20 metres at five berths.

But the challenges are stark. Gwadar has no access to drinking water, power blackouts are common and separatist insurgents threaten attacks against Chinese projects in Gwadar and the rest of Baluchistan, a mineral-rich province that is still Pakistan’s poorest region.

Security is tight, with Chinese and other foreign visitors driven around in convoys of soldiers and armed police.

Beijing is also trying to overcome the distrust of outsiders evident in Balochistan, where indigenous Baloch fear an influx of other ethnic groups and foreigners. Many residents say the pace of change is too slow.

“Local people are not completely satisfied,” said Essar Nori, a lawmaker for Gwadar, adding that the separatists were tapping into that dissatisfaction.

Pakistani officials are urging Gwadar residents to be patient, vowing to urgently build desalination plants and power stations.

Cautionary tale

China’s Gwadar project contrasts with similar efforts in Sri Lanka, where the village of Hambantota was transformed into a port complex – but was saddled with Chinese debt.

Last week, Sri Lanka formally handed over operations to China on a 99-year lease in exchange for lighter debt repayments, a move that sparked street protests over what many Sri Lankans view as an erosion of sovereignty.

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A general view of Gwadar port in Gwadar, Pakistan October 4, 2017. PHOTO: REUTERS

The Hambantota port, like Gwadar, is part of a network of harbours Beijing is developing in Asia and Africa that have spooked India, which fears being encircled by China’s growing naval power.

But Pakistani officials say comparisons to Hambantota are unfair because the Gwadar project has much less debt.

On top of the airport, Chinese handouts in Gwadar include $100 million to expand a hospital by 250 beds, $130 million towards upgrading water infrastructure, and $10 million for a technical and vocational college, according to Pakistani government documents and officials.

“We welcome this assistance as it’s changing the quality of life of the people of Gwadar for the better,” said Senator Mushahid Hussain Sayed, chairman of the parliamentary committee that oversees CPEC, including Gwadar.

China and Pakistan jointly choose which projects will be developed under the CPEC mechanism, Mushahid added.

When China suggested a 7,000-metre runway for the new airport, Pakistan pushed for a 12,000 metre one that could accommodate planes as large as the Airbus 380 and be used for military purposes, according to Sajjad Baloch, a director of the Gwadar Development Authority.

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The scale of Chinese grants is extraordinary, according to Brad Parks, executive director of AidData, a research lab at the US-based William and Mary university that collected data on Chinese aid across 140 countries from 2000-2014.

Since 2014, Beijing has pledged over $800 million in grants and concessional loans for Gwadar, which has less than 100,000 people. In the 15 years before that, China gave about $2.4 billion in concessional loans and grants during this period across the whole of Pakistan, a nation of 207 million people.

“Gwadar is exceptional even by the standards of China’s past activities in Pakistan itself,” Parks said.

Hearts and minds

There are early signs China’s efforts to win hearts and minds are beginning to bear fruit in Gwadar.

“Baluchistan is backward and underdeveloped, but we are seeing development after China’s arrival,” said Salam Dashti, 45, a grocer whose two children attend the new Chinese-built primary school. But there are major pitfalls ahead.

Tens of thousands of people living by the port will have to be relocated. For now, they live in cramped single-story concrete houses corroded by seawater on a narrow peninsula, where barefoot fishermen offload their catch on newly-paved roads strewn with rubbish. Many of the fishermen say they fear they will lose their livelihoods once the port starts operating.

Indigenous residents’ fear of becoming a minority is inevitable with Gwadar’s population expected to jump more than 15-fold in coming decades. On the edge of town, mansions erected by land speculators are popping up alongside the sand dunes.

Analysts say China is aware that previous efforts to develop Gwadar port failed partly due to the security threat posed by Baloch separatists, so Beijing is trying to counter the insurgents’ narrative that China wants to exploit Baluchistan.

“That weighs heavily on the minds of the Chinese,” Parks added. “It’s almost certainly true that they are trying to safeguard their investments by getting more local buy-in.”

Chinese officials, meanwhile, are promoting the infrastructure development they are funding.

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“Every day you can see new changes. It shows the sincerity of Chinese for development of Gwadar,” Lijian Zhao, the deputy chief of mission at the Chinese embassy in Islamabad, tweeted last month.

Naval facility

For its investment in Gwadar, China will receive 91 per cent of revenues until the port is returned to Pakistan in four decades’ time. The operator, China Overseas Ports Holding Company, will also be exempt from major taxes for more than 20 years.

Pakistan’s maritime affairs minister, Hasil Bizenjo, said the arrival of the Chinese in the region contrasted with the experience of the past two centuries, when Russia and Britain, and later the US and the Soviet Union, vied for control of the warm water ports of the Persian Gulf.

“The Chinese have come very smoothly, they have reached the warm waters,” Bizenjo said. “What they are investing is less than a peanut for access to warm waters.”

When a US Pentagon report in June suggested Gwadar could become a military base for China, a concern that India has also expressed, Beijing dismissed the idea.

“Talk that China is building a military base in Pakistan is pure guesswork,” said a Chinese Defence Ministry spokesman, Wu Qian.

Bizenjo and other Pakistani officials say Beijing has not asked to use Gwadar for naval purposes. “This port, they will use it mostly for their commercial interests, but it depends on the next 20 years where the world goes,” Bizenjo said.


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The bitching and nagging is getting more painful by the day. I can only imagine the pain US and India are enduring. The obsession is extreme.

It is funny how a bunch of irrelevant foreigners and outsiders are so obsessed with lecturing Pakistan about its economic well being LOL Remember how these are the same nations that ridiculed Pakistan not so long ago.
 
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US was/is also here for there interests and influence, they are not here bcoz they love your ganga kind,

China is big reality of this region, not Yanks, its you who have to decide the path not us..

and don't worry about our debts, worry about your $52 billion yearly trade deficit with our iron brother, anyways world trust us and lend us money, unlike your country which have to give her gold to IMF for $$ in 90's..
Your Iron brother will hang you on the iron cross if you fail to return the investment, and who invested in your country other than China above $1 billion? anyone? about trade deficit, its not a loan its a trade imbalance, and yes we have the money you dont...
 
Your Iron brother will hang you on the iron cross if you fail to return the investment, and who invested in your country other than China above $1 billion? anyone? about trade deficit, its not a loan its a trade imbalance, and yes we have the money you dont...

LOL look at the desperation. It is beyond hilarious how an Indian would care so much about trade imbalance and a lack of money LMAO

Just relax and celebrate man. Stop crying like a little bitch. Pakistan is according to your wisdom going down the drain. Why so serious? LOL
 
LOL look at the desperation.
yes You people really need to get your lazy asses and start working to repay the enormous loan that you have taken, because if its not payed back in full the chinese will pull your people for organs....so be careful
 
Your Iron brother will hang you on the iron cross if you fail to return the investment, and who invested in your country other than China above $1 billion? anyone? about trade deficit, its not a loan its a trade imbalance, and yes we have the money you don't...

another low IQ, any investor will, US will also hang you if you default on loan.. What special about Chinese? they are our Iron brother bcoz they milk you for a CPEC every year :lol:

its called trade deficit in rest of the world..

Yeah but you didn't have money most of the time, back in 90's when you have to give your gold to IMF.. historically you have lesser per capita then Pakistan 65 out of 70 years. more poverty etc, now you want to teach us economics :enjoy:

As for investment in Pakistan, it was more then $5 billion per year in Musharraf era before terrorism hit Pakistan, bcoz of terrorism no one wanted to deal with Pakistan but with improved security, political stability and Chinese investment foreigner will regain their interest in Pakistan. its improving already despite all the political turmoil.
 

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