China launches ‘mystery object’ into space, ring alarm bells in Indian security establishment

[Rajaraja Chola]

The capability to blow up a satellite exist long ago. In fact, any country with ICBM capability can shoot down a satellite. What we are doing here is to jam it or temporarily disrupt it without physically harming it. This way, after the war, we can return the satellite back into normal operation. This is the extension of advance technology we are conducting now which only us are researching it and perhaps the US, too.

I am pretty sure USA and Russia have already positioned satellite weapons systems in space.

 

[seven7seven]

It is a country known for more hypes and less reality. They will never deny these sort of wrong reports but try to give the impression that it is correct.

It's hilarious how Indians try to make China out to be weak to make themselves feel better and Americans the other way around making China to be a bigger threat than they really are to justify more military spending.

 

[SrNair]

Are you saying China targeting India is a myth ? Just a farce by US ? Bro we need to look at huge reality before its too late . Defense budget of a country on basis of security threats it faces. India treat 200billion per year by China and 20 billion by Pakistan(with Chinese and others help) so in reality we need excess of 200 bil per years but due to our civil society need we can't spend that much so we need to push to our limits for the next 10 years to close the gap .

Its not about how China is lagging behind US. What matters is how we lag behind China? You need to under the basic benefits of high defense budget :

- To strengthen our firepower and deterrent level

- Completely destroying our western neighbor's economy . Even with maintaining high number of nukes the cost of maintaining is heavy . Their won't have enough money to stabilize internal situation leading to more problems

- Bringing China to the table for peaceful resolution on Issues

-Our aggressive stand will make China's enemies more confident and so giving more problems for PLA .

- More defense capabilities = More Confidence among international community = More business under MAKE IN INDIA

- Once our men are armed to their teeth . I mean every single one of them including CRPF BSF etc with advanced defensive and offensive equipments like drones and stufg most of the groups like Naxal , Maoist will look their hopes and backs peace talks has there will be no victory for them which they enjoys today

So I believe strong ambitious nation should have stronger Armed forces. There should be no doubt in our minds of enemies about consequences .

Our present budget is more than enough for all of these isuues.
Still we have a long way to go.Chines can do anything with their autocratic governing system.Our democracy has limitations.
We can increase our budget only if we ensure total reliance in our weapon needs.

Govt knows what they are doing.

 

[Optimos Prime IA]

Our present budget is more than enough for all of these isuues.
Still we have a long way to go.Chines can do anything with their autocratic governing system.Our democracy has limitations.
We can increase our budget only if we ensure total reliance in our weapon needs.

Govt knows what they are doing.

God save India with this kind of mindset . and you mentioned about LONG WAY TO GO .could like to elaborate how long we have to go with 37 billion dollars ?

I think you had China I'm it mind while typing . If its so don't even think about going few distance . Dude if you wait for Making everything in India we will have to wait for another 20 years or more depending on leaders who will rule this country .

And then what ? Democracy have limitations ?

Who is that person teaching all these things to you? Who said democracy have restriction in protecting yourself ? US is worlds oldest democracy . Don't blame democracy blame our leaders who had peanut size will to work for this nation .Most of them were busy doing politics .Thank god we at least have best Army Establishment because of a home we are still independent. poor fellas fighting wars with obsolete weapons selflessly. So come on let's get real .Increase our budget is the only way we can catch up with lost decades. Even thou our soldiers are brave and more capable how can you fight a gun battle with knife ?

Your last sentence was highlight: Govt know what it is doing !

Hell with that . What our did so far jus a crime nothing less. Thanks to Congress party. No Bullets , Obsolete weapons , poor decisions which lead to where we are now.

Wonder when will our people wakes up and demand for stronger military !!

 

[SrNair]

God save India with this kind of mindset . and you mentioned about LONG WAY TO GO .could like to elaborate how long we have to go with 37 billion dollars ?

I think you had China I'm it mind while typing . If its so don't even think about going few distance . Dude if you wait for Making everything in India we will have to wait for another 20 years or more depending on leaders who will rule this country .

And then what ? Democracy have limitations ?

Who is that person teaching all these things to you? Who said democracy have restriction in protecting yourself ? US is worlds oldest democracy . Don't blame democracy blame our leaders who had peanut size will to work for this nation .Most of them were busy doing politics .Thank god we at least have best Army Establishment because of a home we are still independent. poor fellas fighting wars with obsolete weapons selflessly. So come on let's get real .Increase our budget is the only way we can catch up with lost decades. Even thou our soldiers are brave and more capable how can you fight a gun battle with knife ?

Your last sentence was highlight: Govt know what it is doing !

Hell with that . What our did so far jus a crime nothing less. Thanks to Congress party. No Bullets , Obsolete weapons , poor decisions which lead to where we are now.

Wonder when will our people wakes up and demand for stronger military !!

This is not about increasing defence budget .But about optimum utilisation of existing budget.
Congress was a failure and A KAntony did a lot for benefits of Jawans .They got a lot of privileges under his rule .
But was a total disaster in weapons purchasing and his rigidness for saint image took a good toll on our war prepardness.
But the fact is over spending on the defence by ignoring economic condition and social welfare like education will backfire.
We cant afford that , that is why I said still a long way to go.
You dont need to go anywhere .You should just need to check the economy and defence spending of our two arrogant neighbours.
Our western neighbour Pakistan is more like parity driven deluded nation.
They are pressing their already fragile economy to match against India .
Like you said they are bleeding their economy for attaining a parity with us .
Now look at the China ,being a 10 trillion $ economy they can spend around 300 billion $ officially to match against US .But their prime spending is for education.
And their official budget is just around 150 billion $.
Compare that to with US who has 600 billion $ budget.Why cant they compete the US with at least 400 mark ?
Reason is simple China is still not there yet .It is a developing country that is still facing a lots of challenges .

Our govt is also doing the samething .
No one can spend on defence by ignoring basic needs like education ,infra etc .
Pakistan forgot that due to heavy PA situation and now facing internal unstability.

Yes we should increase our budget but only slowly by keeping a healthy share with that of GDP.

 

[Optimos Prime IA]

This is not about increasing defence budget .But about optimum utilisation of existing budget.
Congress was a failure

Wow you are nothing but a product of Nehruvian education

and A KAntony did a lot for benefits of Jawans .They got a lot of privileges under his rule .
But was a total disaster in weapons purchasing and his rigidness for saint image took a good toll on our war prepardness.

R you freeking mixing me or what ?
This dude AK Antony is the worst DM this country have ever seen . Fu@k his image this dude let our nation under serious threat. While defense establishment of India fuming about the mistakes these congressi did you come up with some stupid arguments like he did lot to our jawans. He did nothing but SIN for god sake. Unforgivable SIN threw our nation's defense preparedness 10 years always.Please don't even come up with any excuse and talk about his clean image which no one cares . Clean means he should have stopped all bulshit like corruption in defense deals.He is a sinner .

But the fact is over spending on the defence by ignoring economic condition and social welfare like education will backfire.
We cant afford that , that is why I said still a long way to go.
You dont need to go anywhere .You should just need to check the economy and defence spending of our two arrogant neighbours.

OH FOR GOD SAKE ! What social security are you talking about ? What is the use if social development without any security for them .Which is at most important to keep very one safe from becoming a slave to other nation or get killed by them ? War is not like doing meditation or about laws or Rummel's to be followed . Once our defense is done and that's it . How you teach our kids when we lose our wealth to invaders? Think kid . For some 40000 rupees bike we insure 2000 rupees . For 2 trillion dollar economy , 1.3 billion human life , trillions of national resources billions and billions of national treasures you want just 37 billion as budget ? That too when we have China which is closing the gap between them and US ? And Pakistan which is been armed to teeth by Chinese and US ? What kind of joke is that ?
My simple question how will you defend ourselves with what we have in case of two front war? To go and debate with that WAR is not good for people who need education and welfare .Oh myyy

Our western neighbour Pakistan is more like parity driven deluded nation.
They are pressing their already fragile economy to match against India .
Like you said they are bleeding their economy for attaining a parity with us .

DUDE no one cares what they do with their economy .All we need to care about is their capabilities. What ever they are doing with their economy by over spending on defense but not on social welfare .Who are you to care about them ? Jesus ? Dude these guys are arming themselves in a plan to invade India .Its might be their dream and stay there .But the thing is they can inflict sever wounds don't you think ? And on other hand we gave China who will attack us simultaneously. Do u even aware of consequences?

Now look at the China ,being a 10 trillion $ economy they can spend around 300 billion $ officially to match against US .But their prime spending is for education.
And their official budget is just around 150 billion $.

Who are you to care about how they spend ? I seriously don't understand as if you their tax payer? Open it eyes Whole lots of changes taken place .We need to spend as per our threat perception .Come out of your LALA land like we will win any wars what so ever . Next thing u will know we lose our land and ppl getting killed .

Compare that to with US who has 600 billion $ budget.Why cant they compete the US with at least 400 mark ?
Reason is simple China is still not there yet .It is a developing country that is still facing a lots of challenges .

Our govt is also doing the samething .
No one can spend on defence by ignoring basic needs like education ,infra etc .
Pakistan forgot that due to heavy PA situation and now facing internal unstability.

Yes we should increase our budget but only slowly by keeping a healthy share with that of GDP.

On my friend please come out of your LALA land . Chinese 200 bil $ defends budget might be very less compared to US . But you compare with us. And you want to fight with two countries Pakistan and China whoes combined spending is 250 bil $ with our 40 billion . You think war always will be a small short war like in the past ? What if China want to fight till death ? Can we match Chinese numbers ? Your LALA land is nothing but a product of Nehruvian educational system which says we got freedom with Darnas and Silent march .

Nooo we faught hand to hand battle thru out our country that is how we got freedom . Right now our weapons are either not enough or obsolete. Now how will you replace obsolete weapons system ? With 40 billion it will take another 20 years cause most percentage of the budget goes for maintenance of current force .Which is unacceptable since decades been wasted by previous government .Thanks to your favorite Congress and their AK Antony we are messed up and most of all weapon suppliers wr black listed or deals put on hold due to scams investigation.

All am saying is to allot 5% of GDP from 2-2.5% for the next 10 years .By doing so we will have another 40 billion for purchasing new equipment and replace obsolete weapon systems. Dude our army don't have bullet proof vest you want to spend on welfare of people but let our jawans to face bullets without proper protection and proper equipment? What nonsense . After 10 years with 5% GDP defense budget we can go back to 2.5% what's wrong man ? Our planned Mountain Corp is been cut down into half , Our MMRCA deals for 124 rafale brought down to mere 36 . Our Air force squadron will be cut down to 14-18 squadron when MIGs retired. Our navy is doing good progress but its need major push for facing future war against massive fleet of PLAN .Which is growing at alarming phase. Please don't bring in your feeding poor bullshit because its our civilization is at stake .So people can go hungry to save their mother land . Am just saying. Because in reality Spending 80 billion for next 10 years won't make us a beggars as you are imagining !

 

[bloo]

In China, nobody talk about india.

Well nobody talks about China in India either, apart from a few sparse new coverages once every month or so.
Its just here in pdf we troll.

Indians should stop the delusion that they are important in China's strategy.

Keep telling that to yourself at least you can sleep better if not anything else.

 

[SrNair]

Wow you are nothing but a product of Nehruvian education


R you freeking mixing me or what ?
This dude AK Antony is the worst DM this country have ever seen . Fu@k his image this dude let our nation under serious threat. While defense establishment of India fuming about the mistakes these congressi did you come up with some stupid arguments like he did lot to our jawans. He did nothing but SIN for god sake. Unforgivable SIN threw our nation's defense preparedness 10 years always.Please don't even come up with any excuse and talk about his clean image which no one cares . Clean means he should have stopped all bulshit like corruption in defense deals.He is a sinner .


OH FOR GOD SAKE ! What social security are you talking about ? What is the use if social development without any security for them .Which is at most important to keep very one safe from becoming a slave to other nation or get killed by them ? War is not like doing meditation or about laws or Rummel's to be followed . Once our defense is done and that's it . How you teach our kids when we lose our wealth to invaders? Think kid . For some 40000 rupees bike we insure 2000 rupees . For 2 trillion dollar economy , 1.3 billion human life , trillions of national resources billions and billions of national treasures you want just 37 billion as budget ? That too when we have China which is closing the gap between them and US ? And Pakistan which is been armed to teeth by Chinese and US ? What kind of joke is that ?
My simple question how will you defend ourselves with what we have in case of two front war? To go and debate with that WAR is not good for people who need education and welfare .Oh myyy



DUDE no one cares what they do with their economy .All we need to care about is their capabilities. What ever they are doing with their economy by over spending on defense but not on social welfare .Who are you to care about them ? Jesus ? Dude these guys are arming themselves in a plan to invade India .Its might be their dream and stay there .But the thing is they can inflict sever wounds don't you think ? And on other hand we gave China who will attack us simultaneously. Do u even aware of consequences?


Who are you to care about how they spend ? I seriously don't understand as if you their tax payer? Open it eyes Whole lots of changes taken place .We need to spend as per our threat perception .Come out of your LALA land like we will win any wars what so ever . Next thing u will know we lose our land and ppl getting killed .



On my friend please come out of your LALA land . Chinese 200 bil $ defends budget might be very less compared to US . But you compare with us. And you want to fight with two countries Pakistan and China whoes combined spending is 250 bil $ with our 40 billion . You think war always will be a small short war like in the past ? What if China want to fight till death ? Can we match Chinese numbers ? Your LALA land is nothing but a product of Nehruvian educational system which says we got freedom with Darnas and Silent march .

Nooo we faught hand to hand battle thru out our country that is how we got freedom . Right now our weapons are either not enough or obsolete. Now how will you replace obsolete weapons system ? With 40 billion it will take another 20 years cause most percentage of the budget goes for maintenance of current force .Which is unacceptable since decades been wasted by previous government .Thanks to your favorite Congress and their AK Antony we are messed up and most of all weapon suppliers wr black listed or deals put on hold due to scams investigation.

All am saying is to allot 5% of GDP from 2-2.5% for the next 10 years .By doing so we will have another 40 billion for purchasing new equipment and replace obsolete weapon systems. Dude our army don't have bullet proof vest you want to spend on welfare of people but let our jawans to face bullets without proper protection and proper equipment? What nonsense . After 10 years with 5% GDP defense budget we can go back to 2.5% what's wrong man ? Our planned Mountain Corp is been cut down into half , Our MMRCA deals for 124 rafale brought down to mere 36 . Our Air force squadron will be cut down to 14-18 squadron when MIGs retired. Our navy is doing good progress but its need major push for facing future war against massive fleet of PLAN .Which is growing at alarming phase. Please don't bring in your feeding poor bullshit because its our civilization is at stake .So people can go hungry to save their mother land . Am just saying. Because in reality Spending 80 billion for next 10 years won't make us a beggars as you are imagining !

And you are an almost equal retard same as that of some Pakistanis in here .Always paranoid and filled with jingoism.
Read my post again .You have same verbal diarrahea of new members .I can understand.
But use your brain.AKAntony did the same mistakes like that other DM.
So calm down your a$$ aand use the thing in your head.
I dont want a paranoid defence budget for my nation by sacrificing other necessities and our nukes will take care rest of the shits.

 

[xunzi]

I am pretty sure USA and Russia have already positioned satellite weapons systems in space.

You need to stop bullshitting. That capability to jam cannot be done prior to the information age which is post 2000s.

 

[HariPrasad]

Unlike indians, who start jumping up and down even if 200 toilets are installed in Haryana, Chinese do not have the habit to talk big.

They are calm people who make things happen and talk very less about the great achievements.

So learn few things from them instead of blaming them.

You need a coffee cup

 

[JaiShriAllahNath]

American institutes and universities have been exposed as "politico-military propaganda machine", thoroughly by Rajiv Malhotra in his youtube lectures and book "Breaking India". USA has similar "breaking china" project for China, as well as every other non-Abrahamic, non-white nation.

Such articles are typical white-men's propaganda to,
1. Scare asian neighbours of china, with China.
2. Paint china as inhuman, uncivilized nation.
3. Show neighbours are victims of China.
4. China launches satellites, so it is EVIL. (as if USA never launches satellites or leak nuke-technology to pakistan, through Sweden)

Cumulative effect is, importance of USA goes up in the English world. And China is successfully demonized.

This is how "atrocity literature" on Mexico and Iraq was built up, before they were invaded by USA. Infact, demonization of Mexico(it is a country) was even worse than China. "Atrocity literature" is an official term, used in parlance of CIA/American academia. Its also known as "building a narrative to defame a particular target(nation) before invading it". Mexico was invaded by USA, because USA said "Mexicans are uncivilized people, they beat their wives. We need to civilize them".

Arizona, Texas, California were part of Mexico, before USA invaded mexico and merged that geography into USA. Almost 99% indians are unaware of this history. USA itself was never "white". White-men colonized land of natives in 15th century, by mass genocide. Columbus was a mere missionary sent by Vatican to look for "frontiers". The word "frontier" has a particular meaning(those who have studied Vatican's 2000 year old bloody-history knows it).

This process hasn't ended with colonization of USA/Australia/NZ. Now, USA is being used as launching base by european whites, to target Asian giants. This is the latest game, in same Abrahamic cult history, which continues. That so-called "liberalism" is merely a superficial mask. Its all about grabbing land and resources. That's the only moral white-americans believe in(they are extension of white europeans actually).

By the way, don't blame USA for everything. Islamic prophet mohammed's wife was a Jesuit, he got nice funding from Vatican to grow his mafia, for invasion of Eastern kings. This is how Mohammedian cult was born and grew with time because moral standards were lower and bounties(women as war-gift) were big. It became more popular, compared to boring, moralist dharmic lifestyle.

Adharma is a very beautiful thing, because it makes you "free" from moral code and responsibilities(towards wife, parents, society, environment etc). That's why this is called Kaliyuga, because Kali(darkness/dark ideas) is popular in Kaliyuga. China will eventually choose one side, it can't fight adharma alone. Its impossible because time(yuga) is on Kali's side.