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China is taking lunar mining seriously

You don't need a lunar colony to mine. It can be done with robots.
You still need a human to control and operate the robot there. Either way to mine, human is needed on the moon. We already test our Yuegong-1 lab for that purpose.


China reportedly to produce Yuegong-1 lab growing food in space--China Economic Net

China has achieved another breakthrough in its space program with the development of the Yuegong-1, a lab that simulates the cultivation of plants and micro-organisms on the moon, reports the Hong Kong-based newspaper Wen Wei Po.

The Yuegong - which means "Moon Palace" in Chinese - is one of the world's most advanced Bioregenerative Life Support Systems, also known as Controlled Ecological Life Support Systems. Fittings were completed in late October at the Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics.

The moon's high radiation and low gravity environment is extremely difficult to simulate on Earth, says professor Liu Hong, who heads the Yuegong lab, which has already commenced experiments to grow food, fruits and vegetables to sustain astronauts in space.

The aim is for humans to be self-sufficient in space for months or years at a time allowing them to manage and regenerate limited resources such as food, water and oxygen. If successful, it would save governments billions of dollars as it is said to cost the United States government anywhere between US$10,000 to US$100,000 to send each kilogram of food supplies into space.

The task is more difficult than it appears as temperatures on the moon range from minus-175 degrees Celsius to 120 degrees Celsius, not to mention its low gravity and that parts of it can be covered in darkness for more than 10 days at a time. Any plants or micro-organisms produced to provide food and oxygen and the degradation of waste also need to be stable, fast-growing and provide high-volume produce.

While NASA is reportedly attempting to launch a mission to grow plants on the moon by 2015, China is said to have already completed a regenerative sustainable growth system that has successfully grown of more than a dozen types of foods such as wheat, rice, soybean, peanuts, peppers, carrots, tomatoes and coriander in a simulated space environment.

Last year, scientists from the China Astronaut Research and Training Center completed a 30-day experiment where two test subjects survived on the oxygen and food provided by a 36-square meter greenhouse filled with four types of edible plants. The Yuegong-1 is aiming to further this research in the hope of one day sending people to live on the moon.

Liu said more details of the Yuegong-1 will be unveiled around Chinese New Year, which falls on January 31, 2014.
 
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China's plans to return to the moon early 2020s. Filling one shuttle's cargo bay with helium-3 could bring the equivalent energy of 1bn barrels of oil back to earth.

In 2009 NASA launched the first lunar mining competition now called the The Lunabotics Mining Competition (now simply called the Robotic Mining Competition) that aims to generate "innovative ideas and solutions, which could be applied to actual lunar excavation for NASA."

Google is also sponsoring a moon-related prize, the Lunar X-prize, a $40 million competition to encourage privately funded teams to launch "land a robot safely on the moon, move 500 meters on, above, or below the moon’s surface and
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Newt Gingrich, presidential aspirant in the 2012 Republican contest, wanted to see a permanent moon base established by the second term of his presidency that could be used for space tourism and mining ventures. Gingrich was widely mocked for his grand plan and former space executives criticized the policy, choosing to endorse Mitt Romney.
The moon is rich in rare earths, titanium and could support mining with recent evidence of the existence of water, the big prize when excavating the moon is helium-3.

Almost non-existent on earth, helium-3 is abundant and accessible on the moon and could be used in nuclear fusion, producing much more energy than fission reactions and with much less radioactive waste.

While the USA dabbles with the idea of lunar mining and both India and Russia have in the past floated ideas, China is the only power pushing ahead with an actual program.
Writing in The Diplomat Fabrizio Bozzato, a PhD Candidate at the Graduate Institute of International Affairs and Strategic Studies at the Tamkang University in Taiwan, intriguingly argues China's program to land on the moon within a decade could be a game-changer:

It does, however, exist on the moon. Lacking an atmosphere, the moon has been bombarded for billions of years by solar winds carrying helium-3. As a result, the dust of the lunar surface is saturated with the gas. It has been calculated that there are about 1,100,000 metric tons of helium-3 on the lunar surface down to a depth of a few meters, and that about 40 tons of helium-3 – enough to fill the cargo bays of two space shuttles –could power the U.S. for a year at the current rate of energy consumption. Given the estimated potential energy of a ton of helium-3 (the equivalent of about 50 million barrels of crude oil), helium-3 fuelled fusion could significantly decrease the world’s dependence on fossil fuels, and increase mankind’s productivity by orders of magnitude.

However, supplying the planet with fusion power for centuries requires that we first return to the moon. At present, only China has this in mind, with its Chang’e program, a lunar exploration program that will send astronauts to the moon by the early 2020s. If Beijing wins the second “race for the moon,” and establishes a sustained human outpost conducting helium-3 mining operations, it would establish the same kind of monopoly that in the past created the fortunes of ventures like the East India Company. The ramifications would be significant, to say the least.

First, “China is what international relations scholars call a ‘revisionist power,’ seeking opportunities to assert its enhanced relative position in international affairs,” according to Foreign Policy. Establishing an automated or manned helium-3 operation on the moon would be a spectacular assertion. Second, with the inevitable depletion of fossil fuels on Earth, China would be in a position to gradually build a helium-3 empire in which it would control the supply of the lunar gas. The rise of such an empire would most likely be met with resistance. The prospect of China’s energy supremacy would probably lead to pervasive geopolitical influence, cause geopolitical tension and anti-Chinese alliances to coalesce, and prompt other countries – particularly the U.S. – to hasten to the moon to break the dragon’s monopoly.

China is taking lunar mining seriously | MINING.com
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China should speed up the reseach on microwave drive engine, build an spaceship and prepare to colonize the moon to fullfill the anger of these westerners.:rofl:

Good new but the monopoly part does not sounds good to me,a minimum of 2 powers must have acess to moons H-3 reserves so that humans all over the world can enjoy the gift of electricity
 
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You still need a human to control and operate the robot there.

No you don't. They have people driving rovers on Mars. You think you can't handle one on the moon? There's only a 3 second round trip lag time to the moon. Make it 4 with relays.
 
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No you don't. They have people driving rovers on Mars. You think you can't handle one on the moon? There's only a 3 second round trip lag time to the moon. Make it 4 with relays.
Rover is exploratory in nature. It is different from mining operation. This required a powerful robotic system that need to have direct control by human on the spot. Also human is needed to fix the robot if there is problem with the mining operation.
 
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Rover is exploratory in nature. It is different from mining operation. This required a powerful robotic system that need to have direct control by human on the spot. Also human is needed to fix the robot if there is problem with the mining operation.

This is mining not brain surgery. Plus it is strip mining.

It would probably be cheaper/easier to send up 9 backup robots than maintain humans.
 
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This is mining not brain surgery. Plus it is strip mining.

It would probably be cheaper/easier to send up 9 backup robots than maintain humans.
Each time you send one milligram of weight, it cost thousands of dollar. Having a human establish a base, living there for extensive period save a lot of money and it is more reliable to have human watching over the drilling operation..
 
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Good new but the monopoly part does not sounds good to me,a minimum of 2 powers must have acess to moons H-3 reserves so that humans all over the world can enjoy the gift of electricity

I think China can work on either way : cooperative or competitive mode, we trumpet about the monopoly is just to scare the sh1t out of insecure westerners crying all day long that China is about to colonize and annexe the moon.:coffee:
 
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Each time you send one milligram of weight, it cost thousands of dollar. Having a human establish a base, living there for extensive period save a lot of money and it is more reliable to have human watching over the drilling operation..

If you think a robot's reliability is a weak link in the chain do you really think a human is less of a weak link? Who is going to fix the human when it gets broken? You re going to spend all this money to prevent the human from breaking when you could spend that money better engineering the robot.
 
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If you think a robot's reliability is a weak link in the chain do you really think a human is less of a weak link? Who is going to fix the human when it gets broken? You re going to spend all this money to prevent the human from breaking when you could spend that money better engineering the robot.

Chinese know the reliability of their robot is low, so they need engineer there to fix that robot.
or they totally lost as their Yutu and Chang'e 3 mission ...

After 2 Years on Mars, NASA's Curiosity Rover Aims for Huge Mountain
By Mike Wall, Senior Writer | August 04, 2014 07:00am ET

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NASA's Curiosity Mars rover used the camera at the end of its arm in April and May 2014 to take dozens of component images combined into this self-portrait where the rover drilled into a sandstone target called "Windjana." The rover marks 2 years on the Red Planet on Aug. 5, 2014.
Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS


Two years ago this week, much of the world held its breath as a rocket-powered sky crane lowered NASA's huge Curiosity rover to the surface of Mars on cables.

The bold and unprecedented maneuver worked on the night of Aug. 5, 2012, eliciting high fives and raucous cheers at mission control at the space agency's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, as well as at viewing parties around the globe.

Curiosity has ridden this wave of enthusiasm for nearly two years now. The rover made landmark discoveries in its first few months of operation, helping reshape scientists' understanding of Mars while barely straying from its landing site inside the 96-mile-wide (154 kilometers) Gale Crater.

And mission team members are excited about what the future may hold, as Curiosity gets closer and closer to its ultimate science destination — the foothills of a 3.4-mile-high (5.5 km) mountain called Mount Sharp.




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The nuclear-powered mobile science laboratory Curiosity is roving across the surface of Mars for years, searching for the conditions that may have once made Mars an abode of life. See how NASA's Mars rover Curiosity works in this Space.com infographic.
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Habitable Mars
The main goal of Curiosity's $2.5 billion mission is to determine if Mars has ever been able to support microbial life.

The rover found some hints pointing toward past habitability in September 2012, when it rolled through an ancient streambed that mission scientists say probably flowed continuously for more than 1,000 years long ago. And Curiosity sealed the deal a few months later after drilling into rocks at a site called Yellowknife Bay.

Analysis of the drilled samples revealed that Yellowknife Bay was inded a habitable environment billions of years ago, likely featuring water benign enough to drink, mission team members said. Further study suggested the area was a lake-and-stream system that may have been able to support simple lifeforms for millions of years at a time. (Curiosity has not actually found signs of life; it was not designed to do such work.)

Making such big discoveries so soon was a bit of a surprise, the rover's handlers said.

"Scientifically, Gale Crater, and especially the plains around Mount Sharp, have exceeded any of our expectations," Curiosity deputy project scientist Ashwin Vasavada of JPL told Space.com. "The place was just covered by water on and off again through its history. That's something we never anticipated based on the information we only had from orbit, before landing."

Rough road
There have been some unpleasant surprises as well, however. The rough terrain inside Gale Crater has taken a toll on Curiosity's wheels, which late last year began accumulating nicks and dings at a worrying rate.

"It started out to be very concerning, to the point where we really just shut down operations for a few weeks to kind of catch our breath and understand what was going on," Vasavada said.

But after spending a few months studying the Red Planet terrain, performing simulated drives at JPL's "Mars Yard" and practicing different driving techniques with Curiosity — driving backward sometimes, for example — the rover's operators think they have things under control now.

"It is a problem, but it's something we can manage, and make it through our mission exactly how we wanted to make it," Vasavada said.


Looking ahead to Mount Sharp

While the Curiosity rover was pretty sedentary during its first year on Mars, it has been making serious tracks in year number two.

The robot has driven a total of about 5.6 miles (9 km) since touching down on the Red Planet, and about 5 of those miles have come since it departed Yellowknife Bay for Mount Sharp in July 2013, Vasavada said. The target location at the mountain's base still lies 2 to 2.5 miles away (3 to 4 km), and the mission team expects to get there by the end of 2014, he added.

The plan calls for Curiosity to climb up through the mountain's foothills, which likely preserve a record of the Red Planet's transition from a relatively warm and wet place in the ancient past to the cold, dry world it is today.

"The hope is that we can traverse those rock layers and read Mars like a history book, going from the earliest time period where we see some evidence for clays from orbit, to sulfates, to this dusty layer on top where it might represent the modern conditions," Vasavada said.

"What we can do is place this one habitable environment that probably represents a snapshot of time into the context of all that history exposed at Mount Sharp," he added. "We can also look at whether there were time periods before, or after — multiple time periods that were also habitable environments."

Curiosity doesn't have to summit Mount Sharp to get a good read on Martian history. Mission scientists want the rover to make it up at least to the sulfate layers, which apparently begin at about 1,300 to 1,640 feet (400 to 500 meters) up the mountain.

"Not to imply that 500 meters is going to be easy — that's a good amount of elevation — but it looks doable from what we're able to map from orbit," Vasavada said.




Welcoming NASA's next Mars rover?
NASA plans to launch a Mars rover based heavily on Curiosity in 2020. The 2020 rover, whose suite of science instruments was announced last week, will search for signs of past life, cache samples for possible future return to Earth and produce oxygen from the Red Planet's carbon-dioxide-rich atmosphere, among other activities. [NASA's 2020 Mars Rover in Pictures]

It's possible that Curiosity could still be operating when the 2020 rover touches down, Vasavada said. But if that's the case, Curiosity would likely be performing only limited science work, since its radioisotope thermoelectric generator — which converts the heat from plutonium-238's radioactive decay to electricity — will be pretty low on fuel.

Curiosity is different in this respect from NASA's Mars rover Opportunity, which is still going strong more than 10 years after landing on the Red Planet. Opportunity is solar-powered and can conceivably continue to operate as long as its solar panels remain relatively dust-free.

"Our best years are going to be the next two to four years, because it's a confluence of getting to our primary science target and still having a juicy power generator," Vasavada said. "We would love to welcome 2020 to Mars, but [Curiosity] will probably be in the retirement home by then."
 
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My practical advice : Let make something that can work in Moon first.
 
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Chinese know the reliability of their robot is low, so they need engineer there to fix that robot.
or they totally lost as their Yutu and Chang'e 3 mission ...

After 2 Years on Mars, NASA's Curiosity Rover Aims for Huge Mountain

Ah that's nothing...the PREVIOUS rover (Oppportunity) is still going. It landed in January 2004. That's over TEN years ago!

Opportunity (rover) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just build a better robot.
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I think China can work on either way : cooperative or competitive mode, we trumpet about the monopoly is just to scare the sh1t out of insecure westerners crying all day long that China is about to colonize and annexe the moon.:coffee:

i just think that one should have absolute control of everything,specially such a important resource.It's bad for mankind
 
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Just as like oil is one of the main reason of conflicts today, Helium-3 will likely be the source of conflicts in the future... unless there are other sources of Helium-3 in other planets in this solar system.
 
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Rob Lunar, why not ?
Building rocket and go there, Helium-3 belong to u.

The space colonial era coming soon.

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