calling for immediate strike. where the hell is uncle sam?
They will do nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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calling for immediate strike. where the hell is uncle sam?
I would say Japan is expecting this. The retreat of America from Asia is not really antagonistic to Japan's calculus.
They don't have a treaty with the US?
But if this is how China can be expected to behave in the future, all these little countries of South East Asia need to lock in protective treaties with great powers...US ...Japan....or even just each other.....maybe luck in regional sanctions if any one country is attacked.....they have a right to keep their own land after all
I would say Japan is expecting this. The retreat of America from Asia is not really antagonistic to Japan's calculus.
Quirino Shoal a.k.a Jackson Soal is along the supply route between Palawan and Pagasa Island.
Philippine officials say China blocking access to disputed South China Sea atoll
China has stationed several ships near a disputed atoll in the South China Sea, preventing Filipino fishermen from accessing traditional fishing grounds and raising tensions in the volatile region, Philippine officials said on Wednesday.
China had deployed up to seven ships to Quirino Atoll, also known as Jackson Atoll, said Eugenio Bito-onon Jr, the mayor of nearby Pagasa Island in the Spratly Islands.
The Spratlys are the most contested archipelago in the South China Sea, a resource-rich region and critical shipping lane linking North Asia to Europe, South Asia and the Middle East.
"This is very alarming, Quirino is on our path when we travel from Palawan to Pagasa. It is halfway and we normally stop there to rest," Bito-onon Jr told Reuters.
"I feel something different. The Chinese are trying to choke us by putting an imaginary checkpoint there. It is a clear violation of our right to travel, impeding freedom of navigation," he said.
Fishermen told the mayor one Filipino boat had run aground in the area and was still there but was not being harassed by the Chinese vessels.
Chinese authorities did not immediately respond to faxed requests for comment.
The Philippine military said it was trying to verify the presence of Chinese ships near Jackson Atoll, where a Chinese warship allegedly fired warning shots at Filipino fishermen in 2011.
"We know there are Chinese ships moving around the Spratly area," spokesman Brigadier-General Restituto Padilla told Reuters. "There are also ships around Second Thomas Shoal so we want to make sure if the presence is permanent."
Second Thomas Shoal is where the Philippine navy has been occupying and reinforcing a rusting ship that it ran aground in 1999 to bolster its claims to the disputed reef.
TENSIONS ON THE RISE
A military source from Palawan said a surveillance plane had seen four to five ships in the vicinity of Jackson Atoll last week. The source could not say if the ships were passing through or permanently stationed there because the area is close to Mischief Reef, where China is busy building an artificial island.
"There are no indications China will build structures or develop it into an island," said the source, who was not authorized to speak to the media about the South China Sea.
The Philippines Star newspaper, which earlier reported the story, quoted an unidentified fisherman as saying Chinese boats chased them away when they tried to enter the area last week.
"These gray and white Chinese ships, around four of them inside the lagoon, prevented us from entering our traditional fishing ground," he said.
Along with China and the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam also have claims on the waters, through which about $5 trillion in trade is shipped every year.
Tensions in the region have been building recently, with the United States and others protesting against Beijing's land reclamations, along with the recent deployment of surface-to-air missiles and fighter jets in the Paracel Islands.
U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter warned China on Tuesday against what he called "aggressive" actions in the region, saying there would be "specific consequences" to militarization of the South China Sea.
Beijing, for its part, has been angered by "freedom of navigation" air and sea patrols the United States has conducted near the islands it claims in the South China Sea and says it needs military facilities for its self defense.
Philippine officials say China blocked access to disputed South China Sea atoll| Reuters
A unilateral strike is antithetical to Chinese defense policy in modern years, which has largely been built upon strategic defense. We have to try to understand that the Chinese, themselves, are not really expansionist powers, given how they have conducted territorial settlments with their nieghbors in the past. As in regards to Korea and Japan --- disagreement is merely on maritime territoriality, which is slowly being de-fissured as we speak through careful mediation and through intergovernmental approach.
In fact the way China (Mainland) works to de-escalate with Tokyo is to utilize the conduit , which is the Chinese Province of Taiwan, as the channel to develop mutually comprehensive and inclusive mechanisms of joint fisheries cooperation, joint exploration, and joint development, joint patrol of the Senkakus/ Diaoyutais. This is an indirect recogntion on Tokyo's part of Chinese legitmacy of their claims, and Tokyo's willingness to collaborate, cooperate. Just this week, in fact , @Ind4Ever bhai, both Tokyo and Taipei (Beijing) convened on a new round of Bilateral Joint Fisheries agreements involving the Senkakus / Diaoyutais --- and relations between Greater China and Japan is slowly, gradually developed comprehensively and holistically.
Taiwan, Japan holding fishery talks in Taipei | Politics | FOCUS TAIWAN - CNA ENGLISH NEWS
I suppose , and i would deign to conjecture that as time progresses and as with China's tacit recognition of cooperative bilateralism, we will see more integration in political and inter-governmental mechanisms between Beijing, Tokyo and Seoul. As for China's development in the South China Seas , well Japan is a non-claimant and thus will not involve herself directly in that situation. However, we do hope and pray all relevant parties cooperate peacefully for a mutually inclusive and developmentally-inclined, peaceful approach to the situation. We hope to see a win-win scenario. And we know that China is instrumental to this liberational philosophy.
true, they should have started their own islan reclamation when they had time. also should have populated them by philippinos and some armed forces detachment.They really can't do anything.
Pro china presidential elect in 2016? how so? as sovereignty can be a big political ace for anti china political parties. whichever party going to ensure a tough stand against china can use this incident in their favour.Political response? It is evident. The Philippine Election 2016 will see the rise of a pro-China presidential elect. What is clear is that this new President-elect will be greatly cooperative with Tokyo ( ) and also with Beijing.
America we remain through VFA (visiting forces agreement), but they will be limited to that. I would even say that the Filipino Congress, which really has a split agenda (there are many anti-Americans in the Philippine Congress; as there are many pro-American). A rise of a pro-China president would consolidate the base and implement a more equidistant policy.
I would say Japan is expecting this. The retreat of America from Asia is not really antagonistic to Japan's calculus.
The Philippines appears to infuse credibility to its military option by invoking the PH-US Mutual Defense Treaty when there is not even a mutual understanding between the two countries on the application of the treaty. In what might have been a fit of strategic ambiguity, the US Ambassador to the Philippines refused to clarify how “ironclad” the MDT guarantee was, raising questions on the true intensions of the treaty ally. One can recall that at the early onset of the potential conflict situation in the Spratlys involving China, the US declared that the PH-US MDT did not apply as the Spratlys archipelago was not part of the “metropolitan territory” of the Philippines.
true, they should have started their own islan reclamation when they had time. also should have populated them by philippinos and some armed forces detachment.
Pro china presidential elect in 2016? how so? as sovereignty can be a big political ace for anti china political parties. whichever party going to ensure a tough stand against china can use this incident in their favour.
Thanks for the informative post....so looks like Philipines government is as much to blame for not thinking this through on behalf of their own people.
Thanks for the informative post....so looks like Philipines government is as much to blame for not thinking this through on behalf of their own people.
the chinese are trying to grab as many islands as they can. they can´t steal from VN, so they do from a weaker opponent which is the Philippines. only delusional people believe to chinese words. you should consider placing the islands and atolls you control under our protection. we can station missiles and artillery on them.There was this "Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea, 2002" that stopped SEA nations from building any artificial islands but it didn't stop China.
One president is pro-China while another agrees for a bilateral talks with China.
So now it is the Filipino people's fault now, eh?
hmmm, all i see is lack of political will. what was stopping philippines from violating the declaration after china did that? only lack of political will.There was this "Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea, 2002" that stopped SEA nations from building any artificial islands but it didn't stop China.
kind of yes, you had all the time in the world to take some independent measures but you guys relied on USA, didnt worked out well..
So now it is the Filipino people's fault now, eh?
So now it is the Filipino people's fault now, eh?