China, India's interests in Myanmar spell a bleak future for Rohingyas

[Homo Sapiens]

Times have changed. You can see last time China shielded them from UN. Back in the days they were sanctioned by the west and our actions wouldn't be called provocation. China maybe were behind them back then but even China wasn't that strong then. During Ayub Khans time China wasn't even a part of UN. Harsh and impulsive actions won't do any good. We can't do anything where we risk losing more than gaining because of sentiment.

China shielded them because we didn't play any diplomatic game then.We needed to hammer the fact to China and Russia that, any such move will harm Bangladesh's interest and will negatively impact our bilateral relation.Than they would have acted much more neutrally.Both China and Russia have as much interest in Bangladesh as in burma, if not more. If any situation arises where taking one side harm the other, when both side are useful than most country usually seek the middle path to deal with that situation, more so true for business minded countries like China and Russia.

And for India, they need a friendly Bangladesh much more than a friendly burma.I bet, India will never support burma in anything which Bangladesh consider detrimental to it's interest as long as relation between India and Bangladesh doesn't seriously deteriorate in some other reason like that of India-Pakistan.

Our appeasement and knee jerk reaction only emboldening the burmese to double down their crime against Rohingya people and acting bellicose against Bangladesh.This uncivilized nation will not back down to anything unless it deal with force with force.I am not advocating a direct warfare against them.But our Army and BGB need to return fire with twice strength and start arming and training Rohingya fighters.Our goal should be to create a rebel hold territory in northern Arakan where we can settle the Rohingya refugee and if good fortune arises than an Independent Arakan state with friendly Rohingya as our neighbor instead of vicious burmese.Not to sharing a border with burma itself is a big incentive for BD to help the Rohingya resistance.Even with our current firepower, I am confident that burmese will not dare to escalate it to full clash even if we arm the Rohingyas.They are coward like Hyenas, we have seen that in 2008 and 1992.

 

[Banglar Bir]

সরাসরি..উত্তাল সারাদেশ, রোহিঙ্গাদের পক্ষে বিএনপির আন্দোলন..গ্রেপ্তার অনেক নেতাকর্মী..দিনের তাজা খবর

Bangladesh Affairs
Published on Sep 8, 2017

 

[Mage]

China shielded them because we didn't play any diplomatic game then.We needed to hammer the fact to China and Russia that, any such move will harm Bangladesh's interest and will negatively impact our bilateral relation.Than they would have acted much more neutrally.Both China and Russia have as much interest in Bangladesh as burma, if not more.If any situation arises where taking one side harm the other, when both side are useful than most country usually seek the middle path to deal with that situation, more so true for business minded countries like China and Russia.

And for India, they need a friendly Bangladesh much more than a friendly burma.I bet, India will never support burma in anything which Bangladesh consider detrimental to it's interest as long as relation between India and Bangladesh doesn't seriously deteriorate in some other reason like that of India-Pakistan.

Our appeasement and knee jerk reaction only emboldening the burmese to double down their crime against Rohingya people and acting bellicose against Bangladesh.This uncivilized nation will not back down to anything unless it deal with force with force.I am not advocating a direct warfare against them.But our Army and BGB need to return fire with twice strength and start arming and training Rohingya fighters.Our goal should be to create a rebel hold territory in northern Arakan where we can settle the Rohingya refugee and if good fortune arises than an Independent Arakan state with friendly Rohingya as our neighbor instead of vicious burmese.Not to sharing a border with burma itself is a big incentive for BD to help the Rohingya resistance.Even with our current firepower, I am confident that burmese will not dare to escalate it to full clash even if we arm the Rohingyas.They are coward like Hyenas, we have seen that in 2008 and 1992.

Rohingyas need to be armed. But not by our govt or army. It's the Rohingyas in BD that should supply arms to them. Getting arms isn't a big deal. You can see the terrorist organizations and the separatists in hill tracts has a lot of weapons. Why the Rohingyas can't get them and supply to their comrades in Myanmar?

Btw the govt can't afford make any decision where we risk to lose more than gain.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

Doyal bhai,

The only way war will happen between BD and Burma is if you guys invade Burma in support of Rohingyas. I dont see that happening.

Regards

 

[TopCat]

Doyal bhai,

The only way war will happen between BD and Burma is if you guys invade Burma in support of Rohingyas. I dont see that happening.

Regards

We are working for a safe zone in Myanmar under UN.
Work is going on to create that atmosphere.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Rohingyas need to be armed. But not by our govt or army. It's the Rohingyas in BD that should supply arms to them. Getting arms isn't a big deal. You can see the terrorist organizations and the separatists in hill tracts has a lot of weapons. Why the Rohingyas can't get them and supply to their comrades in Myanmar?

Yes, it need to be covert.Our govt. should not be involve in it directly.Some secret intelligence should do the job.

For arms, Rohingyas are very poor.They can't acquire much.Outside help is needed.Plus Bangladesh govt. need to shield their hidden training camp.Entire operation should be like of how Indian supported the Mukti Bahini.Burmese will accuse us, but we have to deny it.That's how every insurgency support works.Rohingyas are the only unfortunate group not getting any armed support.All other insurgency in burma have 'hidden moral support' from various countries and many control large swath of territory.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

What delusion was that?

I said

We are working for a safe zone in Myanmar under UN.
Work is going on to create that atmosphere.

UN is a non-entity and Myanmar is a big country. UN can't do jack about the internal affair of a big country.

 

[Banglar Bir]

Rohingyas need to be armed. But not by our govt or army. It's the Rohingyas in BD that should supply arms to them. Getting arms isn't a big deal. You can see the terrorist organizations and the separatists in hill tracts has a lot of weapons. Why the Rohingyas can't get them and supply to their comrades in Myanmar?
Btw the govt can't afford make any decision where we risk to lose more than gain.

Kindly note that, Bangladesh never in her history,supplied any kind of arms/ammunition/explosives to any insurgency/freedom movements in this region.

The terrain of Myanmar is very similar to that of Vietnam,Lao PDR, Cambodia, so offering sanctuary/training to the resistance fighters, also are not required, as regards supply of weapons, remember that if you have enough $$$$$$, and know the right connections, any former WARSAW/NATO weapons will be delivered right at your door steps.
All we offer are Humanitarian and moral support and our prayers, within our megger/limited resources.

 

[HariSinghNalwa]

From All the discussion from PDF I see the Muslims feel that they are incapable of stop the so called Genocide of ethnic bengalis Muslims hence the ludicrous believe that they Bangladesh could set up a so called Safe zone with paltry air force and Navy ,Myanmar is only neighbour in Indian ocean with which Indian Navy does co ordinated patrols in Bay of Bengal and China also have deep port in Myanmar , these so called Safe zones are imagination of Bengali Muslim this will remain imagination.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

UN is a non-entity and Myanmar is a big country. UN can't do jack about the internal affair of a big country.

Bigger than Bangladesh?

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Bigger than Bangladesh?

Both are big countries. What I'm saying is, UN cannot solve big country issues.

When it comes to solving big country issues war, proxy war, and dialogue are the only options.

 

[HariSinghNalwa]

Bigger than Bangladesh?

Tatamadaw (Myanmar army) was fighting with ethnic rebels for decade hence is battle proven ,what is battle proven about Bangladeshi army where rebellion is a common occurrence who can forget BDR ,hence Bangladesh doesn't believe heirarchy needed for a professional army

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Tatamadaw (Myanmar army) was fighting with ethnic rebels for decade hence is battle proven ,what is battle proven about Bangladeshi army where rebellion is a common occurrence who can forget BDR ,hence Bangladesh doesn't believe heirarchy needed for a professional army

Fighting with ethnic rebel is the destiny of tatmadaw.Let them be more and more battle proven by fighting with more and more insurgency.

 

[Papa Dragon]

GOI's support for Myanmar against Rohingya Muslims was the right thing to do. Sure, Rohingya Muslims are just an unfortunate group to become scapegoats for Myanmar's junta govt. Human rights were trampled. It's a genocide like Jews in Nazi Germany. Do they deserve help? Yes. Should we help them? Not exactly.

India giving place for Rohingya refugees would piss off Myanmar. India needs Myanmar's support to silence separatist militants in North East and land route for trade with south east Asia. India gains nothing by raising Rohingya issue. Instead it would Myanmar govt towards China

But, India can't ignore Rohingya refugee issue as Bangladesh who is our strategic partner (not the false flagging B'deshis on this forum) is involved. Hence, India needs to keep a low profile on this issue. Govt must silence fringe members and use neutral rhetoric.

Involve a couple of muslim dominated countries and ask them to take the refugees and give aid to Bangladesh to ease their pains on refugee influx. In this way, we don't take in refugees, we keep ties with Myanmar and earn brownie points in International media. It's cold hearted but national interests takes priority over humanity

 

[chatterjee]

I am loosing respect to this govt. with each passing days.Maybe this is the sentiment shared by the majority people in Bangladesh now.

i am also. They are too much 'peaceful'