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Indian members, please come and visit China. Then start asking random people on the street why China is so scared of India.

Likely responses:

1) India, do you mean that Muslim country in the Middle East?

2) ?






(Just kidding. We are all terrified of India, it's all we ever talk about).
 
Mar 07, 2017, 07.04 PM IST

NEW DELHI: Though India lags far behind China in several fields, the communist country is getting wary of India's gains in foreign direct investment (FDI), technology and manufacturing. India's closer military ties with the U.S. is another major concern of China. China has realised that India holds great potential and if it is able to tap it effectively, India could emerge as a major threat to China.

Below are a few reasons why China is scared of India:

Foreign direct investment
On Monday, President Xi Jinping vowed to open up China like never before. China faces dwindling foreign exchange reserves when India is agressively pushing itself as a destination for foreign investment.

Premier Li Keqiang has annnounced that foreign firms would be treated the same as domestic firms when it comes to licences applications, standard setting, government procurement and would enjoy same preferential policies under Made in China 2025 initiative. China is scared it might lose FDI race to India.

In 2015, India was for the first time the leading country ($63 billion) in the world for FDI, overtaking China (USD 56.6 billion) and the US ($59.6 billion). This has set the alarm ..

Manufacturing

China is also scared of India overtaking it in manufacturing in the long term as labour costs in China are rising. Global Times, a Chinese establishment newspaper, wrote recently in an article headlined 'China should pay more attention to India’s increasing manufacturing competitiveness': “Although India is still in its initial stage of developing export-oriented manufacturing industries, the country has great potential to emerge as a regional hub for labour-intensive industries. One recent analysis showed China’s manufacturing hourly wage in 2016 was roughly five times that in India.”

The trigger for the article was India’s exports to China increasing 42% in January this year. Though China has a big edge over India in bilateral trade, it wants to see if the rise in Indian exports is a flash in the pan or a trend.

Talent
US-based software firm CA Technologies disbanded its almost 300-person research and development team in China while setting up a team in India with some 2,000 scientific and technical professionals over the past few years.

This is one instance that signals India having a better pool of technological talent. The Chinese state media has agreed that India has better technological talent than China. Recently, Global Times wrote, "Over the past few years, China witnessed an unprecedented boom in tech jobs as the country became an attractive destination for foreign research and development centres. However, now some high-tech firms are turning their attention from China to India due to the latter's relatively low labour ..

Technology
When India launched 104 satellites, breaking the Russian record of 37 satellites being placed in orbit at one go, the Chinese media made light of this achievement. But a few days later, it corrected its stand and said China could learn from India in space technology.

What India is doing in the space sector can be the envy of China. It is developing low-cost technology which finds takers in the west. India has already overtaken China in space technology, which is increasingly important due to its various civil and military applications. India’s low-cost and stunningly successful Mangalyaan mission last year had raised an alarm in China because China's own Mars misison had failed in 2009 and it has yet to launch another mission. China's worry goes beyond space sector. India's low-cost innovation in space technology can unlock its vast technological potential in other sectors too.


Indo-US military ties

Last year, India and the U.S. signed the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA), a militray pact that facilitates the provision of logistical support, supplies and services between the US and Indian militaries on a reimbursable basis and provides a framework to govern them.


Though the Chinese media downplayed the deal, it has beocme a big bother for China. The deal means that the U.S. can now dominate not only the Indian Ocean but also has easy access to South China Sea as the U.S. warships can dock and get repaired at Indian ports. This will dent China's attempt to ring-fence India by dominating Indian Ocean.

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

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Not necessarily a bad mentality, from a strategic point of view. An emerging self-critique country would be a much bigger challenge than the country with present mentality. In any case, China will not be distracted by such aggressive fixation by a country which seeks attention. I do not know whether it is really as great a country as portrayed. What I care is China's steady progress and low-profile as a major developing country with a task to end poverty by 2020 and build a moderately prosperous society.
 
In any case, China will not be distracted by such aggressive fixation by a country which seeks attention. I do not know whether it is really as great a country as portrayed. What I care is China's steady progress and low-profile as a major developing country with a task to end poverty by 2020 and build a moderately prosperous society.

"Let them say we are no good at this and no good at that. By our own indomitable efforts we the Chinese people will unswervingly reach our goal"
by Mao Zedong

"让他们去说我们这也不行那也不行罢,中国人民的不屈不挠的努力必将稳步地达到自己的目的"

以上摘录自<毛泽东选集>
 
"Let them say we are no good at this and no good at that. By our own indomitable efforts we the Chinese people will unswervingly reach our goal"
by Mao Zedong

"让他们去说我们这也不行那也不行罢,中国人民的不屈不挠的努力必将稳步地达到自己的目的"

以上摘录自<毛泽东选集>

Very beautifully said and reflects an important aspect of China's civilization mentality.

On a side note, I wish Global Times publishes more article of the sort (probably mis-) quoted by the paper in the OP to make their readership feel extremely superior without substance.

Global Times of India.
 
Indian members, please come and visit China. Then start asking random people on the street why China is so scared of India.

Likely responses:

1) India, do you mean that Muslim country in the Middle East?

2) ?






(Just kidding. We are all terrified of India, it's all we ever talk about).
HK people look down on Indians, I don't expect mainland Chinese care about India. Most wouldn't.

Poor Indians are suffering from over nationalism

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Mar 07, 2017, 07.04 PM IST

NEW DELHI: Though India lags far behind China in several fields, the communist country is getting wary of India's gains in foreign direct investment (FDI), technology and manufacturing. India's closer military ties with the U.S. is another major concern of China. China has realised that India holds great potential and if it is able to tap it effectively, India could emerge as a major threat to China.

Below are a few reasons why China is scared of India:

Foreign direct investment
On Monday, President Xi Jinping vowed to open up China like never before. China faces dwindling foreign exchange reserves when India is agressively pushing itself as a destination for foreign investment.

Premier Li Keqiang has annnounced that foreign firms would be treated the same as domestic firms when it comes to licences applications, standard setting, government procurement and would enjoy same preferential policies under Made in China 2025 initiative. China is scared it might lose FDI race to India.

In 2015, India was for the first time the leading country ($63 billion) in the world for FDI, overtaking China (USD 56.6 billion) and the US ($59.6 billion). This has set the alarm ..

Manufacturing

China is also scared of India overtaking it in manufacturing in the long term as labour costs in China are rising. Global Times, a Chinese establishment newspaper, wrote recently in an article headlined 'China should pay more attention to India’s increasing manufacturing competitiveness': “Although India is still in its initial stage of developing export-oriented manufacturing industries, the country has great potential to emerge as a regional hub for labour-intensive industries. One recent analysis showed China’s manufacturing hourly wage in 2016 was roughly five times that in India.”

The trigger for the article was India’s exports to China increasing 42% in January this year. Though China has a big edge over India in bilateral trade, it wants to see if the rise in Indian exports is a flash in the pan or a trend.

Talent
US-based software firm CA Technologies disbanded its almost 300-person research and development team in China while setting up a team in India with some 2,000 scientific and technical professionals over the past few years.

This is one instance that signals India having a better pool of technological talent. The Chinese state media has agreed that India has better technological talent than China. Recently, Global Times wrote, "Over the past few years, China witnessed an unprecedented boom in tech jobs as the country became an attractive destination for foreign research and development centres. However, now some high-tech firms are turning their attention from China to India due to the latter's relatively low labour ..

Technology
When India launched 104 satellites, breaking the Russian record of 37 satellites being placed in orbit at one go, the Chinese media made light of this achievement. But a few days later, it corrected its stand and said China could learn from India in space technology.

What India is doing in the space sector can be the envy of China. It is developing low-cost technology which finds takers in the west. India has already overtaken China in space technology, which is increasingly important due to its various civil and military applications. India’s low-cost and stunningly successful Mangalyaan mission last year had raised an alarm in China because China's own Mars misison had failed in 2009 and it has yet to launch another mission. China's worry goes beyond space sector. India's low-cost innovation in space technology can unlock its vast technological potential in other sectors too.


Indo-US military ties

Last year, India and the U.S. signed the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA), a militray pact that facilitates the provision of logistical support, supplies and services between the US and Indian militaries on a reimbursable basis and provides a framework to govern them.


Though the Chinese media downplayed the deal, it has beocme a big bother for China. The deal means that the U.S. can now dominate not only the Indian Ocean but also has easy access to South China Sea as the U.S. warships can dock and get repaired at Indian ports. This will dent China's attempt to ring-fence India by dominating Indian Ocean.

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

images


Very cute, and I thought ET was a serious Indian news paper. You really can't comprehend these people.
 
indians much affected by their deep rooted special culture are a large bunch of delusional people where their mentality is in stark defiance of logic and reality. Their use of future tenses is overwhelming which is a timeless phenonmenon specific to their race. They are aggressive people, contrary to what the rest of the world sees them, which makes them more dangerous as a nation on the path of behaving in similar veins to Kim Jong-un.

Nehru's "Forward Policy" - remember?

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One look at OP and you can tell that he is not basing it on facts and it is biased. I stopped reading when he mentioned about indian space achievement being envy of China.

Now that is not arrogance by OP but his own bias is reflected in the article which is not based on facts. We call them presstitutes because they give biased and predetermined views in favor of the government and corporations. Even your media is full of them but we fail to bring it your notice because we know your media is not totally free.

We are not delusional people and know lot more about how China has progressed rapidly under one party rule. It is you who pose real threat to other countries with your military might and economic might which is evident in SCS and Tibet.

Our bazaars and markets are filled with Chinese imports and we know very well the edge China has over India in manufacturing field. Many of our traditional industries got wiped out because of cheap imports. But nothing is constant and nations will compete to take advantage of their inherent strengths and to improve on their weakness.

Some of the things that op mentioned are not anyway real threats to China because you are 5 times our GDP and hence 5 times bigger in almost every field including costs and worker wages.

That is not the end of the world because traditionally countries move towards higher productivity and efficiency to counter their high wages. You guys are already doing it with robotics and automation. This will definitely create job losses and worker displacements which you have to overcome with retraining of workers.

Regarding India attracting more FDI than China, it has made your CPC to take notice. They have announced a spate of reforms to open up your economy because they are concerned about FDI.

It is not end of the world and nobody believes it so, including we low IQ Indians. So, you can relax with your pronouncements and generalization about India and Indians.

Even Chinese companies are outsourcing some of their manufacturing to other countries including India to take advantage of lower costs and market proximity.

There is an opportunity for countries like India, Indonesia, Malaysia and Vietnam with young populations and low manufacturing cost to attract inward FDI which has traditionally been going to China for past two decades. We welcome it because it brings more jobs and consumption and is positively correlated to our GDP growth.
 
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