China-India Geopolitics: News & Discussions

[AndrewJin]

No one is going to be super power when Supa Powa 2012 exists.

 

[S10]

My reaction whenever someone claims China is "scared" of India.

 

[Jlaw]

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India supapowa since 2012. First supapowa with rampant poverty, under equipped armed forces, a small economy, very few toilets, and Ganges bottle water that cure AIDS.

 

[Gibbs]

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

U r very wrong, Trump is so afraid of India that he will make in India!

Good one...

 

[AndrewJin]

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India supapowa since 2012. First supapowa with rampant poverty , under equipped arm forces, a small economy , very few toilets, and Ganges bottle water that cure AIDS.

That country is giving us laughing points from time to time.

 

[Realtalk108]

I wish I could say that since media in India is free and so you get all kinds of stuff, including tinpot propaganda. But when a paper like ET peddles this BS I honestly despair.

FWIW, the commenters below that article showed some sense. There are some morons there too. But at least there is some hope.

s d kamat- "Bogus report China is far ahead of india in all speres of activities. They may beat us in cricket some day.The China bazaar SAN Frico of 1850 the Canada US rail workers fromchina are egs."

Ashraf Chopan - "China is behind India in Space technology.....!I stopped reading further..."

Shankarnarayan Sarma - "China is not scared about International forums, why they scared about India? Author of the article is right within the six points. But overall position his views are totally unacceptable."

Ramesh - "As observed from a foreign perspective, it is India that is worried of China. There is little or almost nothing on India bashing on Chinese media but on the Indian side, the media is constantly bashing China every single day. Indian medias have to shed this "seige" mentality if they want to move forward. Ironically, Indian medias has been more positive with USA although USA did more malice than China in the last few decades. It's very interesting to watch. Dumbfounded but interesting nevertheles."

Lokos - "No one in China even cares about India let alone be scared of it. Just look at their media coverage vs ours. Everyday, we compare ourselves with China as if we have something to prove. Whereas China spends her time writing up deals with latin America, middle east and the rest of the world."

 

[T-Rex]

Mar 07, 2017, 07.04 PM IST

NEW DELHI: Though India lags far behind China in several fields, the communist country is getting wary of India's gains in foreign direct investment (FDI), technology and manufacturing. India's closer military ties with the U.S. is another major concern of China. China has realised that India holds great potential and if it is able to tap it effectively, India could emerge as a major threat to China.

Below are a few reasons why China is scared of India:

Foreign direct investment
On Monday, President Xi Jinping vowed to open up China like never before. China faces dwindling foreign exchange reserves when India is agressively pushing itself as a destination for foreign investment.

Premier Li Keqiang has annnounced that foreign firms would be treated the same as domestic firms when it comes to licences applications, standard setting, government procurement and would enjoy same preferential policies under Made in China 2025 initiative. China is scared it might lose FDI race to India.

In 2015, India was for the first time the leading country ($63 billion) in the world for FDI, overtaking China (USD 56.6 billion) and the US ($59.6 billion). This has set the alarm ..

Manufacturing

China is also scared of India overtaking it in manufacturing in the long term as labour costs in China are rising. Global Times, a Chinese establishment newspaper, wrote recently in an article headlined 'China should pay more attention to India’s increasing manufacturing competitiveness': “Although India is still in its initial stage of developing export-oriented manufacturing industries, the country has great potential to emerge as a regional hub for labour-intensive industries. One recent analysis showed China’s manufacturing hourly wage in 2016 was roughly five times that in India.”

The trigger for the article was India’s exports to China increasing 42% in January this year. Though China has a big edge over India in bilateral trade, it wants to see if the rise in Indian exports is a flash in the pan or a trend.

Talent
US-based software firm CA Technologies disbanded its almost 300-person research and development team in China while setting up a team in India with some 2,000 scientific and technical professionals over the past few years.

This is one instance that signals India having a better pool of technological talent. The Chinese state media has agreed that India has better technological talent than China. Recently, Global Times wrote, "Over the past few years, China witnessed an unprecedented boom in tech jobs as the country became an attractive destination for foreign research and development centres. However, now some high-tech firms are turning their attention from China to India due to the latter's relatively low labour ..

Technology
When India launched 104 satellites, breaking the Russian record of 37 satellites being placed in orbit at one go, the Chinese media made light of this achievement. But a few days later, it corrected its stand and said China could learn from India in space technology.

What India is doing in the space sector can be the envy of China. It is developing low-cost technology which finds takers in the west. India has already overtaken China in space technology, which is increasingly important due to its various civil and military applications. India’s low-cost and stunningly successful Mangalyaan mission last year had raised an alarm in China because China's own Mars misison had failed in 2009 and it has yet to launch another mission. China's worry goes beyond space sector. India's low-cost innovation in space technology can unlock its vast technological potential in other sectors too.


Indo-US military ties

Last year, India and the U.S. signed the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA), a militray pact that facilitates the provision of logistical support, supplies and services between the US and Indian militaries on a reimbursable basis and provides a framework to govern them.


Though the Chinese media downplayed the deal, it has beocme a big bother for China. The deal means that the U.S. can now dominate not only the Indian Ocean but also has easy access to South China Sea as the U.S. warships can dock and get repaired at Indian ports. This will dent China's attempt to ring-fence India by dominating Indian Ocean.

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Some people say that offence is the best defence and I can see that playing out in this article. It's like trying to hide your fear of your adversary by shouting that your adversary is scared of you.

 

[AndrewJin]

Some people say that offence is the best defence and I can see that playing out in this article. It's like trying to hide your fear of your adversary by shouting that your adversary is scared of you.

They boast too many times even some most educated are now brainwashed to believe it.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

China should be, in fact, afraid, very afraid.

Afraid of people and so-called country where rationality or any detached view of prevalent reality is considered anti-national.

Where myths and fantasies are true and where delusions rule supreme...

China and Chinese must be afraid of such hordes, such people.

Since the establishment of diplomatic relations with this eternal future super power China has always extended genuine hand of friendship and courtesy only to be back-stabbed on each and every turn from 1950's CIA & RAW operations to this day this belligerent neighbour has malice in its dark heart.

China be wise and act with the Wisdom of the Ancient Dragon... because, this so-called country and its people see kindness and politeness as weakness.

These people are just mad. We must fear madness!

 

[samsara]

WHY IT’S TIME THE INDIAN MEDIA ENDED ITS WAR ON CHINA

Editorials may be slowly losing their venom and becoming more realistic than jingoistic, but the press still lags the public – and even politicians – in embracing the rise of Sino-Indian ties

BY ASHIS CHAKRABARTI, 19 FEBRUARY 2017

But a change seems to be slowly taking place. The Indian media seem to be finally accepting that China does things other than stealthily intrude into Indian land or plot strikes across the border.

The border issue remains a major concern, but war cries in the media are heard less and less. So finds a survey by a team of researchers at the Observer Research Foundation, an Indian think-tank that comprises retired diplomats, bureaucrats, other policymakers, academics and journalists.

In their survey published this month, the authors analysed China-related editorials carried by five leading Indian newspapers – The Times of India, The Hindu, The Indian Express, The Economic Times and The Financial Express – between 2012 and 2014. The years chosen are significant because they mark the rise to power of the two current leaders of China and India – Xi Jinping and Narendra Modi.

I'd posted the full article here furnished with some touching pics
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/why-its-time-the-indian-media-ended-its-war-on-china.478863/

 

[terranMarine]

India is a peculiar case, a phenomenon unheard/unseen before. No other country in history has constantly pitched its own status (political, economical, social, military, scientific) against another power like India. You don't see (constant) articles from other developed or developing countries claiming they are so much ahead of the other. India certainly does not lack writers with imaginative creativity and the obsessiveness with China is astonishing to be honest. It appears Indian Media only has one target and the things those people write are either completely false or grossly exaggerated. Only by visiting this forum do we actually materialize the notion that many Indians actually believe in these fairy tales much to our surprise.

 

[NakedLunch]

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India supapowa since 2012. First supapowa with rampant poverty , under equipped arm forces, a small economy , very few toilets, and Ganges bottle water that cure AIDS.

Dont forget the numerous social divisions and stresses India has as a State. In the future, the 'soup and power' will be ripped apart from within as a major clash between India's Hindu Brahmin extremists along their minions and the ethnic minorities of India, especially Muslims. India is not going towards stability, it is heading towards greater instability

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Chinese might be scared of Indian body odor.

As some1 who encounter Indian people once in awhile(and try my best to avoid being near them)- i say this is to be taken very, very seriously.

 

[Dungeness]

India is a peculiar case, a phenomenon unheard/unseen before. No other country in history has constantly pitched its own status (political, economical, social, military, scientific) against another power like India. You don't see (constant) articles from other developed or developing countries claiming they are so much ahead of the other. India certainly does not lack writers with imaginative creativity and the obsessiveness with China is astonishing to be honest. It appears Indian Media only has one target and the things those people write are either completely false or grossly exaggerated. Only by visiting this forum do we actually materialize the notion that many Indians actually believe in these fairy tails much to our surprise.

That's what separates the real World Power from wannabes. Indian should depart from their inferior mentality that constantly drives them to resort to bragging, in meaningless attempts to prove their imaginary superiority.

They end up fooling nobody, but themselves.