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Sometimes it is still satisfying to see Locomotives!

Guangzhou Depot
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It is always extremely satisfying to see such gathering of locos!
Thanks for an early Christmas present Andrew!

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I suppose that is SS9G (the red loco)
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What loco is that Andrew? I'm not sure if that is a Diesel Electric or an electric loco running on Third power contact rail (there is a central rail in between two rails).

Wow!
What a lovely location :smitten:
 
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Beauty of non-electrified railways
Northeast China in early Autumn!


Suifenhe-Jiamusi Railway in Heilongjiang Province
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More photos about Suifenhe-Jiamusi Railway in China's Northeast, deep autumn scenery

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also in Northeast China, after 4 years of upgrading projects,
Changchun Railway Station opens the South Square Transfer Centre
Changchun City, capital of Jilin Province

New square opens to the public, including convenient underground transfer facilities to Changchun Subway, Changchun Tram, Changchun public bus, as well as a railway shopping centre.

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Ground floor: BRT and bus stops, bicycle racks, parks
B1: Main transfer hall, tunnel to nearby shopping centres
B2: tram no.3 and public parking, taxi
B3: Entrance to metro line 1 and public parking
B4: Metro line 1


There are 2 long-distance coach stations next to both north and south squares providing 1500 long-distance services per day.

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It is always extremely satisfying to see such gathering of locos!
Thanks for an early Christmas present Andrew!
I am looking forward to your more photos and news on the Indian railway thread.

SS8 is my favourite locomotive.
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What loco is that Andrew? I'm not sure if that is a Diesel Electric or an electric loco running on Third power contact rail (there is a central rail in between two rails).
The pig head DF11G, lol
It is a very popular loco among railway fans in China.
Many fans' social network names start with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Railways_DF11G

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DF11G was designed for the fifth speed-up campaign in 2004.
92 units were manufactured between 2003 and 2010.


DF11G near Beijing Railway Station
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DF11G on Hainan Island, now wiped out and replaced by electrified ones :(
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Lots of DF11G in Guangdong Province
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DF11G in Northeast China
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Following the recent tragedy in the Indian Punjabi state, I am wondering --- of course that organiser should be held accountable --- is any plan from the indian railway authority to fence up busy railways?

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In my memory of following Diesel locos around the globe, i suppose this loco is first example of a double section loco in operation. Quite rare if not unique (Soviets did use double section diesels back in 70s).
Wow!
That's Grand. Almost looks like a Palace!

Following the recent tragedy in the Indian Punjabi state, I am wondering --- of course that organiser should be held accountable --- is any plan from the indian railway authority to fence up busy railways?
Its extremely unfortunate and tragic event especially on a day of festivity.
First investigation suggests gross negligence on part of organizers to control crowd and even though railway angle is involved, i strongly believe, there is nothing the train driver could do. Trains don't stop like bikes in few meter distance. People take safety extremely casually and sometimes common sense is your best bet against accidents. It was missing this time around. Alas :(
A large part of railways is fenced but still trespassing occurs and this is one problem railways is still trying to find solution as we enter the first stage of speeding up tracks to 90 miles/hr and beyond.
 
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KRRAAAAAZY SLOPE outside Lanzhou West Railway Station
Lanzhou City, Northwest China

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In my memory of following Diesel locos around the globe, i suppose this loco is first example of a double section loco in operation. Quite rare if not unique (Soviets did use double section diesels back in 70s).
I believe so too.
Reading news that everyday these once important diesel locomotives are being scrapped one by one replaced by electric ones has given some complex feelings.
Scenery along no-poles lines is always the best!



 
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KRRAAAAAZY SLOPE outside Lanzhou West Railway Station
Lanzhou City, Northwest China

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I believe so too.
Reading news that everyday these once important diesel locomotives are being scrapped one by one replaced by electric ones has given some complex feelings.
Scenery along no-poles lines is always the best!


What is the electrification rate in China?
 
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I guess there is no autumn in Guangxi!
Guizhou-Guangzhou HSR in Guangxi Autonomous Region of China's Southwest


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How time flies!
Beijing-Chengdu train in 1985
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Its extremely unfortunate and tragic event especially on a day of festivity.
First investigation suggests gross negligence on part of organizers to control crowd and even though railway angle is involved, i strongly believe, there is nothing the train driver could do. Trains don't stop like bikes in few meter distance. People take safety extremely casually and sometimes common sense is your best bet against accidents. It was missing this time around. Alas :(
A large part of railways is fenced but still trespassing occurs and this is one problem railways is still trying to find solution as we enter the first stage of speeding up tracks to 90 miles/hr and beyond.
I don't think it has anything to do with the driver either.

Fencing, tunnels, elevation, changing routes, signal system upgrading, etc, lots of can be done in the speed-up initiatives.
I personally think speed is less important than comprehensive management of the entire railway corridors.

Sometimes we tend to blame the easiest target.
When a pedestrian was hit by a train, maybe alternatively we should ask wasn't that supposed to exist an easier overpass for the pedestrian to cross the railway?
I am all for post-modernist thinking.
 
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Sometimes we tend to blame the easiest target.
Very True!
In such cases and tragedies, sympathy is always with victims but we must remember that in railways, loco drivers have only two choices either to stop or keep moving. They can't move their train sideways like a car driver.
As per the reports released by Indian Railways, the train was going at around 92 kph and even if the driver had applied sudden emergency brakes, it would've required 700 meters to stop. That essentially means here was no way driver could've prevented this event. Infact sudden braking poses a very realistic chance of de-railment leading to further casualties.
 
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Beijing Beijing!

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Very True!
In such cases and tragedies, sympathy is always with victims but we must remember that in railways, loco drivers have only two choices either to stop or keep moving. They can't move their train sideways like a car driver.
As per the reports released by Indian Railways, the train was going at around 92 kph and even if the driver had applied sudden emergency brakes, it would've required 700 meters to stop. That essentially means here was no way driver could've prevented this event. Infact sudden braking poses a very realistic chance of de-railment leading to further casualties.
So many railway accidents have happened in the past several days around the world!
 
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Chengdu-Kunming Railway
Southwest China's mountainous magic

The new 160-200km/h Chengdu-Kunming Railway will open in 2019.
The old one will be only used for freight trains and short-distance passenger trains.
The magnificent scenery will be history for passengers on most long-distance trains.



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The new 160-200km/h Chengdu-Kunming Railway will open in 2019.
The old one will be only used for freight trains and short-distance passenger trains.
The magnificent scenery will be history for passengers on most long-distance trains.
 
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What is the electrification rate in China?
By Jun 2017,
China has 80,000 kilometers of electrified railway, an increase of 7.4% over the previous year; and the electrification rate is 64.8%, an increase of 3% over the previous year. The railway mileage of the western region reached 50,000 kilometers, an increase of 2,230.9 kilometers or 4.6% over the previous year.

The goal is 70% in 2020, among 150,000km-long network.

Beijing-Sanya train in Foshan City of Guangdong Province
Diesel locomotive
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Electrified
Beijing-Guangzhou Railway in Northern Guangdong
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More photos on CR300, the future 250km/h bullet trains.
There will be no further order on CRH2.
All 250km/h classes will be gradually replaced by CR300.

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