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God bless China for this great job. Just put more of this high-tech stuff at every public domain in order to ensure maximum security of the citizen.

I do not care my public life are being constantly monitored so long as it applies to everybody in the public domain.
 
Neither.

Good luck bringing any sort of change to the system when it turns on you.
Here is a data ... more CCTV cameras and less police on streets, society security is better. :coffee:

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Amazing.
Only 50 cent propagandists would be praising this sort of stuff.
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Have you actually read Nineteen Eighty-four by George Orwell?

I did, it is one of my favorite books.

And having lived in China for most of my life, there is really zero comparison. The world of Nineteen Eighty-four is stuck in a time warp, there is no technological progress, because there is no need for technological progress. If anything, technology in the world of Nineteen Eighty-four is going backwards.

And the world of Nineteen Eighty-four is in a constant state of "eternal war" between the 3 major world factions, who are in fact the same thing at the core.

Not to mention, the cameras in Nineteen Eighty-four are in people's houses. Whereas places like London (the most CCTV's per capita in the world) or in places like China, the security cameras are all in public spaces, where nothing you do is private anyway.

Who would be afraid of that, except criminals?

P.S. Guess how the Boston bombers were caught in America? You guessed right, CCTV. Without that they would still be at large, maybe still carrying out bombings (they certainly had the equipment to continue).
 
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Have you actually read Nineteen Eighty-four by George Orwell?

I did, it is one of my favorite books.

And having lived in China for most of my life, there is really zero comparison. The world of Nineteen Eighty-four is stuck in a time warp, there is no technological progress, because there is no need for technological progress. If anything, technology in the world of Nineteen Eighty-four is going backwards.

And the world of Nineteen Eighty-four is in a constant state of "eternal war" between the 3 major world factions, who are in fact the same thing at the core.

Not to mention, the cameras in Nineteen Eighty-four are in people's houses. Whereas places like London (the most CCTV's per capita in the world) or in places like China, the security cameras are all in public spaces, where nothing you do is private anyway.

Who would be afraid of that, except criminals?

as an aside, sort of getting tired of the British attitude towards the 'johnny foreigner.'

Most folks are fine, But I guess some didn't get the memo the Queen isn't the Empress anymore.

And no, I am not grateful for the railways and other systems the benign dictators brought to my homeland.

It was truly hilarious reading the British posts on the Hong Kong protests.

The majority are pleasant folk, and there is nothing like British literature and comedy. God bless the queen indeed.
 
Over 1.5 mln sign petition against Occupy Central

In Hong Kong, the anti-Occupy Central group, Alliance for Peace and Democracy, says it has collected over 1.5 million signatures as of Saturday.

Their petition aims to support the police and calls for an end to the occupation of Hong Kong's roads. As violence has erupted constantly over the last month and shadowed the stability and public security, many Hong Kong residents showed up on Saturday to say "No" to Occupy Central.

The anti-Occupy Central group says that with roads occupied in central business districts like Causeway Bay, Central and Mong Kok, retailers and banks in such areas have suffered huge economic losses.
 
Source of over 200 million HKD supplies unclear

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Roughly 80% of supplies used by protesters in the Occupy Central movement are unknown, according to statistics from the Hong Kong Environmental Protection Association (HKEPA).

The continuing protests in the city have consumed over 250 million HKD (32.3 million USD) worth of supplies within a month. While the public donated one fifth, the source of the rest – over 200 million HKD (25.8 million USD) – was not clear according to the association.

The HKEPA document questioned the origin of unknown supplies. But, so far, no evidence of major foreign backing has been revealed.

The report also pointed to the growing waste in the occupied areas as a significant environmental problem for the city.

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Where in the world did they get over 30million USD? That's insane!
 
need for democracy is always true, no matter how they make up about the protesters.
 
As You Watch Hong Kong, Remember Wukan
The outcome of Hong Kong’s Umbrella Revolution is more likely to resemble Wukan than Tiananmen.

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By Ankit Panda

As the world watches current events in Hong Kong, there is a tendency to regard the situation with dread, fearing a repeat of the tragedy of Tiananmen Square, 1989, when — on Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping’s orders — soldiers massacred peaceful demonstrators calling for democracy in China.

On the one hand, this makes sense seeing as how June 4, 1989 is etched in history as the most famous example of the Chinese Communist Party violently repressing calls for democracy within its borders. Additionally, given that a) Hong Kong represents the single largest challenge to CCP authority since Tiananmen, and b) the Party tends to prefer force over dialogue in resolving “mass incidents,” it isn’t unreasonable to expect the use of force in some form. At the same time, naysayers point out that the current Party leadership couldn’t stomach the sort of international alienation that was a result of violently cracking down in 1989 — doing the same in Hong Kong today would be far worse, not least because Hong Kong is crawling with foreign press and China is significantly more connected to the global economy in 2014 than it was in 1989.

However, despite its allure, Tiananmen isn’t the only model for understanding how the CCP deals with dissent and protest. Another more recent and compelling model is the manner in which the Party dealt with the 2011 protests in Wukan. In trying to understand Hong Kong’s near-future with lessons from China’s recent past, it’s almost certainly more useful to reflect on Wukan than on Tiananmen.

Back in 2011, a small fishing village in China’s Guangdong province with just some 20,000 residents grew fed up with the local government when town officials unilaterally agreed to sell a local farm to a developer for well below market price. This decision by the local government was effectively the straw that broke the camel’s back — similar to the National People’s Congress decision to alter the terms of Hong Kong’s universal suffrage provisions. The rest is history: hundreds of Wukan residents peacefully protested against the local government by staging sit-ins and chanting slogans calling for a greater say in their village’s affairs.

What was notable about Wukan was that the CCP chose to resolve the dispute not with tanks, but with meaningful Party intervention and negotiation. What was ultimately remarkable was that following the intervention of Wang Yang, who was then the governor of Guangdong province where Wukan is located, the village was ultimately allowed to stage municipal elections in which at least 6,000 residents voted for a new committee to represent their community interests. The Wall Street Journal at the time noted that the elections appeared “to be free of the Communist Party meddling that typically mars Chinese election results.” At the time, this was practically unthinkable and was touted as the path to broader grassroots democracy in China.

Structurally, the “Umbrella Revolution” in Hong Kong bears several similarities to Wukan — merely on a different scale. Both communities rose up after sensing that the Party had reneged on a prior understanding. In Wukan, there was no community input before the land sale and Hongkongers were stripped of their democratic right to freely stand for election without Beijing’s prior approval. Both communities protested peacefully (with a few exceptions, to be sure). Indeed, the two instances are so similar that Chinese President Xi Jinping reportedly has tapped Wang Yang, the governor of Guangdong during the Wukan protests and currently a vice premier on the politburo, to “remain on standby” to handle the situation in Hong Kong.

As the Hong Kong city government prepares to meet with student leaders this week, Wang’s hands could be working behind the scenes. What additionally makes Wang’s involvement remarkable is the fact that he is a stalwart Hu Jintao protégé and a well-known “liberal” within the party, owing his rise to power almost entirely to Xi’s predecessor. Wang was the progenitor of the “Happy Guangdong” development model — in resolving the Wukan crisis, he opted for steering the government in a direction that traded harmony for growth, as one scholar put it.

I don’t want to oversell the similarities between Wukan 2011 and Hong Kong 2014. One key difference is the extent to which anti-Beijing/Zhongnanhai rhetoric is prevalent in the “Umbrella Revolution.” Anyone following the protests in Hong Kong will have seen slogans condemning Beijing and the Party. In Wukan, there was no question about loyalty to the party — the demands were effectively much narrower. Additionally, as we potentially approach the “resolution phase” in Hong Kong after 13 days of protest, it’s difficult to imagine the protesters satisfying their preferences and interests in the negotiations with the city government the same way Wukan’s residents did.

For example, one of the protester’s core demands is for current Hong Kong Chief Executive CY Leung to step down from his post. In a best case outcome for the protesters, this core demand could be met while the broader issue of the NPC’s decision to limit which candidates are eligible for the chief executive post in the future could remain untouched. The reason this could be a viable outcome is because it asks Beijing to neither bend nor break on issues that it would consider its “core interests” in Hong Kong — Leung himself could prove disposable provided Hongkoners acquiesced to the Party’s broader demand that their city abide universal suffrage “with Chinese characteristics,” so to speak.

What sets Wukan leagues apart from the current situation in Hong Kong is the hugely influential personal intervention by Wang Yang himself. Wang, as governor and trusted ally of China’s then-President Hu Jintao, had significant leverage in addressing the protests which took place in a small village within his jurisdiction. Additionally, Wang’s handling and placation of that protest likely helped propel him to his current position on the Politburo. In Hong Kong, there is no analogous power-player, leaving matters far more uncertain. If Wang is indeed playing a role in the upcoming dialogue between protesters and the Hong Kong city government, he will most likely remain in the shadows.

Additionally, while it’s worth remembering Wukan in the context of Hong Kong, it should be noted that Wukan’s ultimate trajectory has proven to be decidedly undemocratic. After elections took place and normalcy was restored, little actually ended up changing for the village’s disaffected denizens. The issue that caused the protests in the first place — misappropriated land — remained unaddressed. If a resolution in Hong Kong emulates Wukan, it will hopefully do so in terms of processes and not actual outcomes. As remarkable as Wukan’s tryst with democracy seemed at the time, it all crumbled shortly thereafter.

As the protests hopefully head toward resolution in the coming days, it is clear that above all we are trending away from a repeat of June 4, 1989. If Tiananmen demonstrated the CCP’s capacity for brutal repression, then Wukan demonstrated its ability to walk a softer path and negotiate, given the right set of circumstances. While Hong Kong’s protesters won’t receive that sort of engagement from the mainland, it is a positive sign that talks will take place with the city government. Some student leaders have already declared this development as a victory for Hong Kong’s civil society. If the protesters win any concessions at all, we’ll have seen in Hong Kong a limited triumph of the Wukan model of restraint and dialogue.
 
“保普选反占中”大联盟收集183万签名递交港府-中新网

“保普选反占中”大联盟收集183万签名递交港府|政务司|司长_凤凰资讯

“保普选反占中”大联盟收集183万签名递交港府
2014年11月03日 19:58
来源:中国新闻网

原标题:“保普选反占中”大联盟收集183万签名递交港府


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由“保普选反占中”大联盟发起的“还路于民 恢复秩序 维护法治”支持警方签名大行动,在过去九日,共收集到183万多个签名。11月3日,大联盟下午将收集到的签名,递交政务司司长林郑月娥等官员,要求当局严正执法。中新社发 谭达明 摄


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Wow, more than 1.8 million signatures in just about a 1-week campaign :dance3::tup::super::rap::victory1::nana::yay::china:

HK's democratic criminals and thuggish organisers/supporters/sponsers, please vacate the streets NOW :angry:

YOU are the enemy of the People :dirol: :nono:
YOU are the very minority and YOU are criminals :bad::fie:

港媒:市民反占中 百万港人签名还路于民
2014-10-30 09:25:00中新网分享
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  10月29日,由香港保普选反占中大联盟发起的支持警察大签名行动已经获得超过100万香港市民的支持签名,发起人之一周融(中)在一个签名街站召开记者会。周融呼吁非法“占中”人士,听从香港市民的民意,结束违法行动。中新社发 谭达明 摄

  中新网10月29日电 香港《文汇报》29日发表文章,总结违法“占中”行动对香港与国家带来的十大祸害,称“占中”行动破坏了法治秩序,冲击了香港经济。

  文章称,由外部势力策动和支持下的违法“占中”已经持续了足足一个月,这场香港回归以来最严重和规模最大的违法事件,给香港带来的是冲击秩序、破坏法治、损害经济、祸害民生、撕裂社会、妨碍民主、干扰普选等种种严重恶果。

  港版“颜色革命”危害国家统一

  《文汇报》将这些祸害归纳为以下十个方面

一、港版“颜色革命”祸害深远。近日越来越多的证据说明,被西方媒体美化为“雨伞革命”的“占中”事件,实际上就是一场外部势力扮演操盘手角色,企图夺取香港管治权的港版“颜色革命”,给香港带来无尽的苦难和动荡。

  二、“港独”、“台独”合流,危害国家统一。“占中”搞手一直打着“命运自主”、“重夺属于我们的未来等”“港独”意识强烈的口号。同时,“占中”除了有西方势力的策动外,也一直有台湾“台独”分子参与,暴露“两独合流”意图破坏“一国两制”的目的。

  严重损害法治 朋友家庭撕裂

  三、公共秩序和法治受到严重破坏,甚至到了暴乱边缘。“占中”者不但公然鼓吹“公民抗命”,在一个月的“占领”行动中,严重损害法治及社会秩序,更罔顾法庭发出的禁制令,视法律如无物,令本港法治蒙受严重冲击。原来的和平集会已迅速演变成严重破坏公众安全、公共秩序及扰民,甚至在旺角“占领”区出现天天争吵打斗,暴力冲突事件频频发生,少数激进分子还准备头盔、尖头雨伞、钢头鞋等装备,用来对抗警方执法,暴乱有可能一触即发。据不完全统计,已经有近70位警员在维持秩序时受伤,也有近百人因暴力违法活动被警方拘捕。

  四、栽赃抹黑警方,打击警队士气。“占中”将维持法纪的警员视作敌人,以“网上起底”、粗言辱骂等下三流手段打击警员士气。一些教育界害群之马,更向学生渲染所谓警员“打压和平示威”的言论,对学生进行“洗脑”。然而,打击警队令警队难以执法,最终受害的只是全港市民。

  五、撕裂社会,重创和谐。自从“占中”爆发以来,网络世界出现一股“Unfriend”潮,不少人将“异见者”“Unfriend”,手机通讯群组亦“退群”不断。同时,也有家长因此和子女产生矛盾,亲子、朋友、家庭关系都变得紧张,原先繁荣安定的香港社会,被这帮人搞得严重对立,分化撕裂。

  煽动学生做炮灰 重创金融中心地位

  六、煽动学生犯法,荼毒香港未来。“占中”爆发以来,富有理想和热情的学生被推到前台,成为打头阵的炮灰,“占中”搞手不但没有阻止学生参与违法暴力的“占领”行动,反而火上浇油地吹捧学生是“英雄、斗士”。这些年轻人很可能需负上刑责而影响前途,令香港的未来一代的发展蒙上阴影。

  七、 动摇金融基础,损害香港经济。国际信用评级机构惠誉的报告指出,“占中”成了香港的管治问题,长远可能影响香港信贷评级;另一评级机构穆迪认为,若示威持续或出现暴力对决,将对香港评级带来负面影响。受“占中”的影响,“沪港通”传闻将暂难“通车”,令香港金融中心地位受到严重影响。而股市动荡造成的损失,也是高达数以千亿港元。

  “生意衰过非典” 返工上学艰难

  八、封锁旺区道路,百业损失惨重。酒店业方面,“占中”影响金钟及中环一带酒店的出入交通及物资供应,入住率下跌到50%至60%。香港汽车交通运输业总工会表示,“占中”影响职业司机收入,有出租车司机的营业额减少30%到50%。零售、餐饮等更惨受“占中”冲击,不少商铺不得不结业,有商户更直指“生意衰过非典”,总体损失也高达数百亿港元。

  九、市区严重堵车,返工上学艰难。由于道路严重堵塞,数以百条巴士线或停或改,市民出入均受到严重影响,要多花一倍至两倍的时间,令广大市民怨气冲天。

  十、妨碍政制发展进程,破坏市民的“普选梦”。“占中”者不断提出越来越高的要价,特别是要求撤回全国人大常委会的决定,死撑违反香港基本法的“公民提名”,更令到政府与学生的对话并无成果,香港普选的进程有可能因此被拖慢,市民能否在2017年实现特首“普选梦”,现在还不得而知。

  文章最后称,广大市民都期待这场“噩梦”赶快过去,让社会重新回到正常发展的轨道之中。
 
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