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I was just curious because I don't see a "support democracy in Vietnam" pin on you. Seeing as how that's your country, one would think you'd care enough to support democracy there first. But apparently you care about Hong Kong more than Vietnam. I'm sure our HK PDFers are very touched. :coffee:

We want democracy in Vietnam but we know there will be bloodshed and we don't want that. we don't mind bloodshed in hk.
 
By Simon Denyer October 10 at 2:25 PM
HONG KONG — Thousands of people of all ages flocked back into the streets of Hong Kong on Friday evening as the government’s decision to pull out of talks breathed new life into the pro-democracy movement.

Crowds at the protest sites in the city had been dwindling this week, but speakers said the government had miscalculated if it thought the popular desire for democracy was waning.

From a makeshift stage, students and other protest leaders were joined by volunteers, doctors, housewives, lawmakers and academics in expressing support for the movement and vowing to continue the struggle until the Hong Kong government responds to their demands for democracy.

But the loudest cheers of the night were reserved for Joshua Wong, the slight and bespectacled student leader who celebrates his 18th birthday Monday and urged supporters to bring their tents, mattresses, mats and sleeping bags, to fill up every inch of the protest site in central Hong Kong and prepare for a “long-term occupation.”

“This is our only choice if the government blocks the conversation. We are tired but we don’t want to lose,” he said in Cantonese, before leading the crowd in an English chant of “Democracy now, democracy in Hong Kong, we will never give up.”


Hong Kong protests have simmered, but students are calling for more demonstrations in response to the government calling off talks. (Reuters)
Throughout the three-hour rally, speakers and the crowd chanted “Stay on the streets until the end,” “Fight on” and “Protect Hong Kong.”

“Hong Kong’s determination has created one historic moment after another,” Wong said, demanding that the government apologize for using tear gas at the start of the protests, and threatening to expand the protests if the authorities do not come to the negotiating table.

Above the stage, banners demanded that Hong Kong Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying step down, called for democracy and justice, warned Taiwan to “beware” of China, and quoted the lyrics from a local pop song imploring people to “hold tight to freedom amid the wind and rain.”

In Washington, the Congressional-Executive Commission on China said the United States should boost support for democracy in Hong Kong. Beijing responded by saying this was sending the wrong message to demonstrators and called the statement a “deliberate attack” on China.

Speaking in Berlin, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said the situation in Hong Kong was part of China’s internal affairs and warned other countries to respect China’s sovereignty, news agencies reported.

“I am sure the people of Hong Kong have the wisdom, and the government has the authority, to preserve the prosperity of the city and also social stability,” he said.

In Hong Kong, frustration has grown at the prolonged occupation of streets, but the movement still appears to enjoy considerable popular support.

At the rally at the main protest site, speakers condemned the government’s decision to withdraw from talks with the students that had been planned for Friday, reserving particular ire for Leung and his deputy Carrie Lam, who had been supposed to lead the official delegation.

“If they had any courage, they should be here facing us,” said Alex Chow, secretary general of the Hong Kong Federation of Students. “I am prepared to talk to Carrie Lam, but where are you? You cannot escape from us — maybe for now, but not forever. You cannot insult us forever. This government has no legitimacy.”

Academics read out a petition accusing the Chinese government of violating the Basic Law, Hong Kong’s mini-constitution introduced after the handover from British rule, by failing to grant Hong Kong the right to elect its own leaders according to international democratic standards. They also accused the Hong Kong government of unwillingness to talk and to listen to its own citizens, and faulted the police for using tear gas on peaceful protesters at the start of the protests.

“We condemn the government’s lack of goodwill and its unwillingness to deal with the crisis through genuine dialogue,” said retired professor Ho Chi-kwan, reading a petition that she said had been signed by 140 academics in less than five hours Friday.

On Thursday, Lam, the territory’s chief secretary for administration, said the government did not believe talks could be held in a constructive atmosphere while the protests continued, but she also demanded that the students accept the Chinese Communist Party’s ruling in August that effectively closed the door on democracy for the former British colony.

That decision stipulated that only candidates acceptable to Beijing would be allowed to stand in elections planned for 2017 to elect Leung’s replacement. Protesters want an open field of candidates, arguing that the current system produces a chief executive who behaves as if he is answerable only to Beijing and who does not defend the interests of the people of Hong Kong.

Just as the use of tear gas was a major recruiting factor for the protests two weeks ago, the government’s decision to back out of talks appeared to have galvanized popular anger this week.

In the crowd, there was little optimism that Beijing would back down, but rather a sense that Hong Kong had been irrevocably changed by the protests and that the current system — where Beijing rules the territory by proxy through a narrow political and business elite — was unsustainable.

“I am extremely moved by this, by how people came out to do this,” said Kenneth Wong, a 24-year-old fashion designer who planned to stay the night at the site with a friend. “It’s like a battle you can’t win. It’s really sad the government won’t take any step to try to achieve a consensus. But the government has definitely underestimated the power of the people.”

Meanwhile, the China Human Rights Defenders group said police across China had taken into custody dozens of activists, petitioners, artists and other citizens who had posted messages online or gathered to show support for the protesters. The majority of the detentions took place in Beijing.

Daniela Deane in Rome contributed to this report.

go Joshua! vietnam support you.
 
Look at these low lives (not the police). They are the ugliest joke

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The pictures of the two men you have attached is a subject matter of national security and foreign affairs of that country.

Democracy is a work in progress. It comes in many forms. Just to name a few non-Nato countries in no particular order.

New Zealand, Japan, Argentina, Australia, and South Korea.

You young people are smart and well educated. You know what is best for yourself.

Thank you for taking your time out to discuss this topic with a classic man as myself. But it is past my nap time. ;)

All the photos / person named above are revealing the farce of american democracy and its hegemonial atrocities over the world
Vietnam is a victim of the american imperialist
The book has revealed cia's subversive operations against foreign governments which do not take american's order albeit democratically elected

Read my related post again.

"New Zealand, Japan, Argentina, Australia, and South Korea." - all except Argentina are under the protection of usa
Argentina in great chaos

Now go back to sleep please :coffee:
 
"New Zealand, Japan, Argentina, Australia, and South Korea." - all except Argentina are under the protection of usa
Argentina in great chaos

Argentina is an MNNA too :P But not to a big extent as the rest, bear in mind Afghanistan and Pakistan are considered MNNAs as well and look at their diplomatic stance ;)
 
Argentina is an MNNA too :P But not to a big extent as the rest, bear in mind Afghanistan and Pakistan are considered MNNAs as well and look at their diplomatic stance ;)

I am also saying Argentina's MNNA (so as to argue against Classic Man's claim) but its political, economic situations ..etc are in great chaos

In fact Argentina along with Brazil and many S American countries are politically against America

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Communication University of China, a journalist with 7 years work experience,GXTV. My picture is my office. Wanna more information?
I apologized because he make me feel losing face as his fellow countryman. How did his teacher told him before. Well educated?

哥我最讨厌的就是你们这群自以为是的煞笔文科生,你们的数理化最TM的烂。

别以为满脑子写一些乱七八糟的东西就能成社会的精英了,中国今天的成就和你们这些傻逼文科生没有半毛关系。
 
President Xi is a wise man. He will not let China go into a civil war. Have some faith in him. China citizen will have a form of democracy under his leadership. I am pretty sure.

Any fundamental change in political system MUST be made with well controlled progression otherwise big social unrest and gruesome bloodbath will follow

Right now we do not see the need for a change, let alone changing drastically
 
哥我最讨厌的就是你们这群自以为是的煞笔文科生,你们的数理化最TM的烂。

别以为满脑子写一些乱七八糟的东西就能成社会的精英了,中国今天的成就和你们这些傻逼文科生没有半毛关系。
Hey,hey,hey! Is this the way you used to show your reputation? well educated.
I do not use Chinese to communicate in this forum. Think about how's you feel if two foreigner besides you talked in their own language and you did understand nothing.

Science students in solving the problem of economy and technology, liberal arts students to solve the socialproblems, do not to be so offensive dude, you shall only get lack of reputation on this way.
 
Hey,hey,hey! Is this the way you used to show your reputation? well educated.
I do not use Chinese to communicate in this forum. Think about how's you feel if two foreigner besides you talked in their own language and you did understand nothing.

Science students in solving the problem of economy and technology, liberal arts students to solve the socialproblems, do not to be so offensive dude, you shall only get lack of reputation on this way.

I am busy these days, so i don't have much time to waste with you.

I will call a "洋自干五" like @Beidou2020 to deal with a liberal like you.
 
China has rule of law to handle demonstrations not sure why they are complaining China is doing great financially

I think even if initially there would be some loss in Hong Kong gradually the situation would change as China is doing great as Nation
 
China has rule of law to handle demonstrations not sure why they are complaining China is doing great financially

I think even if initially there would be some loss in Hong Kong gradually the situation would change as China is doing great as Nation
As I understand it, the core complaint is that the mainland getting richer has led to mainlanders moving into/visiting HK. The new money coming into town causes upward pressure on rent, and downward pressure on wages. So, the HK locals are hoping to restrict the flow somewhat. What exactly they are proposing seems a bit vague - at the moment it's just "let us pick our own leaders (so they can restrict the flow)". But, my understanding could be flawed.
 
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