China has U.S. anti-missile tech

[xukxuk]

shchin&isinse i doubt this guy is chinese
the way he talk is not like chinese
i hope the administrator ban this id
thank you

 

[shchinese]

if only Russia get rid of huge pile of unconventional weapons that is is cause of billions of dollars for russia...if this continues russia will lose more that is just one thing..

russia should be fine, they can export gas to their european friends.

 

[Sanchez]

There happened several times before in PDF that Indian posters disguised as Chinese. Anyway we should hope mod ban this guy and stop his troll.

 

[12345]

China has the best anti missible defence system in the world. It is not disclosed to the world for strategic reasons. No country can attach china with missiles. Missiles will be shot down within 1000 kms of chinese border. China can shoot down enemy aircraft within 100 kms also. World does not know our secret yet. All military advances are lept secret. Then we will one day decalre oursleves as super power. countries like pakistan which are sub servient to us will be rewarded and countries like india will be punished.

yeah yeah... Just like US supossed to posses a marble sized atomic bomb that can smash every thing on this planet.And US wants to use it if and only if it looses a war and the last US citizen is going to die in that war.
and US dont want it to make this public,since CIA dont intend to do so...

 

[12345]

Better than the US and Russia? China can intercept a missle traveling 10,800 mph or (17,400 km/h)?



Then how do you know China has the best missle defence system in the world?

he is none other than HU lurking on pak def forum

 

[ptldM3]

has Russia developed and tested any mid course anti ICBM technology? I do understand you guys have some crazy nuke which are sitting there waiting to "destroy" the incoming ICBM in space and you call it "mid course anti missile".



trust me, I do believe russians can come up with something similar and catch up with the Chinese anti missile technology in 10 years if we stop developing.

Care to explain why China took deliveries of the S-300 (2003-2008) if your technology is "10 years ahead"? We have the most edvanced SAM (S-400) it's just not made to reach the stratosphere, hense if we use the RD-180 rocket we will have a mid course missle. Two things you need to know, Russia helped China develope quidence systems in the past and the RD-180 is the most edvance rocket engine ever developed, so edvanced the United States uses it. Put two and two together and a mid course is born.

China had recently requested that Russia transfer more high-technology fiber optic gyroscopes. These items are necessary components for China's short-, medium-, and long-range missiles.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...tqGGAw&usg=AFQjCNEbcK3042R1OtkJF4eJGUPZx3uL2w

I though you were 10 years ahead?

It has been reported that that China transported cruise missile production facilities from Russia to a location in the vicinity of Shanghai in 1993, and recruited cruise missile engineering specialists from Russia in 1995 and. It is also reported that China has obtained technical data concerning a Russian cruise missile guidance system

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour..._fCEAw&usg=AFQjCNG59IUIPnUUPu3yC2A5Pcauz8cziQ

Why use Russian engineers and quidence sysyems if you're, "10 years ahead"? Granted this is a cruise missle but it doesn't change the fact that China requested Russia's help to built the guidence system, point in case every rocket has a guidence system even the Chinese mid course, so how do you go from asking for our assistance to surpassing us by "10 years'?

 

[prithwidw]

Care to explain why China took deliveries of the S-300 (2003-2008) if your technology is "10 years ahead"? We have the most edvanced SAM (S-400) it's just not made to reach the stratosphere, hense if we use the RD-180 rocket we will have a mid course missle. Two things you need to know, Russia helped China develope quidence systems in the past and the RD-180 is the most edvance rocket engine ever developed, so edvanced the United States uses it. Put two and two together and a mid course is born.



http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...tqGGAw&usg=AFQjCNEbcK3042R1OtkJF4eJGUPZx3uL2w

I though you were 10 years ahead?



http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour..._fCEAw&usg=AFQjCNG59IUIPnUUPu3yC2A5Pcauz8cziQ

Why use Russian engineers and quidence sysyems if you're, "10 years ahead"? Granted this is a cruise missle but it doesn't change the fact that China requested Russia's help to built the guidence system, point in case every rocket has a guidence system even the Chinese mid course, so how do you go from asking for our assistance to surpassing us by "10 years'?

Dude, he's a troll, ignore him. Fighting has seldom bought any good effects.

 

[Sanchez]

Care to explain why China took deliveries of the S-300 (2003-2008) if your technology is "10 years ahead"? We have the most edvanced SAM (S-400) it's just not made to reach the stratosphere, hense if we use the RD-180 rocket we will have a mid course missle. Two things you need to know, Russia helped China develope quidence systems in the past and the RD-180 is the most edvance rocket engine ever developed, so edvanced the United States uses it. Put two and two together and a mid course is born.



http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...tqGGAw&usg=AFQjCNEbcK3042R1OtkJF4eJGUPZx3uL2w

I though you were 10 years ahead?



http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour..._fCEAw&usg=AFQjCNG59IUIPnUUPu3yC2A5Pcauz8cziQ

Why use Russian engineers and quidence sysyems if you're, "10 years ahead"? Granted this is a cruise missle but it doesn't change the fact that China requested Russia's help to built the guidence system, point in case every rocket has a guidence system even the Chinese mid course, so how do you go from asking for our assistance to surpassing us by "10 years'?

You are right about that China's military tech is not more advanced than those of Russia. However China paid very good prices for everything Russia sold to us.

Since 1990s China had the money to employ over 10000 of jobless ex-soviet engineers to work in China's defence industry. I don't think you should define it as Russian assistance. If you do so then you could claim the same from US as lots of ethinic Russians, Indians and Chinese are employed there. There are also Russian pilots well paid for flying fighter jets in poor African countries.

You may specify what missile guidance system Russia has provided to China. Don't use Internet rabbish to support your claim.

If Russia thinks mid course anti-missile tech is a piece of cake where is your system? If you have it, you wouldn't yell to the US about NMD plans in Poland, Czech or Romania, would you?

S-300 and S-400 are nice and powerful SAM systems. I don't see why we should not buy them even if our HQ-9A plus HQ-19 are better in some features.

 

[ptldM3]

You are right about that China's military tech is not more advanced than those of Russia. However China paid very good prices for everything Russia sold to us.

No one is denying that.

Since 1990s China had the money to employ over 10000 of jobless ex-soviet engineers to work in China's defence industry. I don't think you should define it as Russian assistance. If you do so then you could claim the same from US as lots of ethinic Russians, Indians and Chinese are employed there. There are also Russian pilots well paid for flying fighter jets in poor African countries..

Read carefuly:

China had recently requested that Russia transfer more high-technology.

You may specify what missile guidance system Russia has provided to China. Don't use Internet rabbish to support your claim.

DH-10 / CH-10

If Russia thinks mid course anti-missile tech is a piece of cake where is your system? If you have it, you wouldn't yell to the US about NMD plans in Poland, Czech or Romania, would you?.

I'm sure China would be upset if the US pulled the same stunt, and the US would go bazerk if we placed a "NMD" in Cuba. Something to ponder about mid course missles, the US mid course has somewhere around a 50% falure rate, this is against conventional missles. What happens when you try to shoot down a Topol-M? A missle that employs counter measures, evassive manuvers and has a speed of 10,800 mph (17,400 km/h).

 

[Sanchez]

No one is denying that.
DH-10 / CH-10

Double check your source or forget it. PLA deployed reverse engineered K-55 in 1990s. CJ-10 is totally a different system.

I'm sure China would be upset if the US pulled the same stunt, and the US would go bazerk if we placed a "NMD" in Cuba. Something to ponder about mid course missles, the US mid course has somewhere around a 50% falure rate, this is against conventional missles. What happens when you try to shoot down a Topol-M? A missle that employs counter measures, evassive manuvers and has a speed of 10,800 mph (17,400 km/h).

Don't mention Cuba because every one still remembers what happened in1963. For strategic reasons China does hope Russia become strong world power again. But you have to come up with more modern stuff than what's inherited from the Soviet times.

Just an example for you: China licensed a guidance system for PL-12 AAM. Now it's substituted with a totally different one. Do you think China's strategic systems such as CJ-10 would rely on foreign subsystem? I don't think so.

 

[ptldM3]

Double check your source or forget it. PLA deployed reverse engineered K-55 in 1990s. CJ-10 is totally a different system..

Again read carefly, the artical is about the DH-10 / CH-10. What point are you trying to make regarding the K-55? where do you have trouble finding the coorilation between the DH-10 / CH-10's and Russian assistance? And should it matter what type of cruise missle the Russians offered assistance with? At the end of the day, our technology and knowhow found its way into Chinese cruise missles, why you are debating this fact when a link is in front of you is beyond me.

Don't mention Cuba because every one still remembers what happened in1963. For strategic reasons China does hope Russia become strong world power again. But you have to come up with more modern stuff than what's inherited from the Soviet times.

Was that suppost to be an isult? Are you trying to say the Soviets got scared and left? Let me take you to school, the Soviet Union withdrew its missles from Cuba under the condition the US remove it's missles from Turkey and Italy.

 

[Sanchez]

Again read carefly, the artical is about the DH-10 / CH-10. What point are you trying to make regarding the K-55? where do you have trouble finding the coorilation between the DH-10 / CH-10's and Russian assistance? And should it matter what type of cruise missle the Russians offered assistance with? At the end of the day, our technology and knowhow found its way into Chinese cruise missles, why you are debating this fact when a link is in front of you is beyond me.

The article is not credible to me. You don't seem to know anything more than the article claims. If you want to believe it please carry on.

Was that suppost to be an isult? Are you trying to say the Soviets got scared and left? Let me take you to school, the Soviet Union withdrew its missles from Cuba under the condition the US remove it's missles from Turkey and Italy.

I did not take it as an insult but a sarcastic bluff. Does Russian school still teach a proud story about it?

 

[ptldM3]

The article is not credible to me. You don't seem to know anything more than the article claims. If you want to believe it please carry on.

Well then the arical about Chinese KKV isn't credible either I posted a link to global security not a blog but of course you're free to beleive what you would like.

I did not take it as an insult but a sarcastic bluff. Does Russian school still teach a proud story about it?

I got my information from American sources. Anyhow we both made our points, now it's time to let this thread die, besides i'm going to have some tea

 

[Sanchez]

Well then the arical about Chinese KKV isn't credible either I posted a link to global security not a blog but of course you're free to beleive what you would like.



I got my information from American sources. Anyhow we both made our points, now it's time to let this thread die, besides i'm going to have some tea

As you wish, have a good sleep.

 

[faithfulguy]

Was that suppost to be an isult? Are you trying to say the Soviets got scared and left? Let me take you to school, the Soviet Union withdrew its missles from Cuba under the condition the US remove it's missles from Turkey and Italy.

I think the Soviets teach different kind of history than the rest of the world. Everyone else teach that Kennedy stood firm and Kruschev blinked. Maybe you could be right but that would be an under the table deal. But officially, Russians withdraw and US pulled the missiles out of Turkey could be the same or totally different deal. But unless the info is declassified, no such deal happened.