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China has ‘no other choice’ but to rely on coal power for now, official says

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China has ambitious goals for cutting its carbon emissions, but it won’t be abandoning coal power anytime soon as it keeps its eye firmly on economic targets.

President Xi Jinping said in September that the country’s carbon emissions would begin to decline by 2030, and he said the country will reach carbon neutrality by 2060 — in four decades.

In the meantime, policymakers are making clear that economic growth remains a top priority — and that growth depends largely on coal power. Beijing has a GDP target of 6% this year, a level which analysts say would allow authorities to tackle long-term problems such as the country’s high debt levels.

“China’s energy structure is dominated by coal power. This is an objective reality,” said Su Wei, deputy secretary-general of the National Development and Reform Commission. CNBC translated his Mandarin-language comments, which he made late last week following Xi’s separate remarks at a U.S.-led global leaders climate summit.
“Because renewable energy (sources such as) wind and solar power are intermittent and unstable, we must rely on a stable power source,” Su said. “We have no other choice. For a period of time, we may need to use coal power as a point of flexible adjustment.”

He added that coal is readily available, while renewable energy needs to develop further in China.

Funding coal power outside China
Separately, on Tuesday, when asked by CNBC whether Beijing might follow South Korea in its pledge to stop public financing of coal-powered plants overseas, China’s ecology ministry indicated that China’s funding of coal power in the developing world will continue.

“China has supported some developing countries in the construction of coal-fired plants overseas,” Li Gao, director general of the ministry’s department of climate change, told reporters in Mandarin that CNBC translated. “China provides this support according to the local situation.”

“Many developing countries don’t even have electricity,” he said. “In this situation, if you don’t use coal, what will you use?”

According to the Boston University Global Development Policy Center, the China Development Bank and the Export-Import Bank of China together funded $474 million worth of coal-sector projects outside China in 2020 alone.

The same report indicated that China’s financing of energy projects beyond its borders has declined steadily since 2016, however.Li said that coal accounted for 56.8% of China’s domestic energy generation in 2020, down from 72.4% 15 years ago. As of last year, China was the world’s heaviest emitter of carbon dioxide, according to the Union of Concerned Scientists, a non-profit founded at MIT. The United States was second, and India was third.

During last week’s climate summit, Xi called for international cooperation in reducing carbon emissions, adding that different countries should play different roles in that reduction. He did not identify any countries by name.

Xi said China would “strictly control coal-fired generation projects” and limit increases in coal consumption over the next five years. He said reductions would take place in the five years following that.

System ‘favors coal-fired generation’
Chinese authorities have tightened restrictions on carbon emissions this year in a targeted way, such as calling for production cuts in the steel-making hub of Tangshan city.

However, China is still increasing construction of coal-fired power plants. Analysis by U.S.-based Global Energy Monitor indicates that last year, China built more than triple the amount of new coal power capacity as the rest of the world combined.

China is the world’s largest consumer of coal. Late last year, some parts of the country cited a shortage of coal in limiting local power usage, as demand for electricity soared. China’s electricity use rose 3.1% last year, according to official figures.

The Chinese government aims to reduce the share of carbon-heavy fuel in national energy consumption to 20% by 2025, China Renaissance analysts said in a report last month. But they noted that falling renewable energy costs are not enough to incentivize a major industry shift.

“We believe the current system overwhelmingly favors coal-fired generation, partly because it is more stable and faces less variability of wind and solar power,” the report said. “The uncertain market access has already slowed investment in renewables. Given the power of coal and construction interests, the needed reforms will probably take considerable political will.”
 
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This could be a good news actually. It mean China economic growth is so robust, and China has ample opportunity for nuclear and gas power plant, including coal gassification technology.
 
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This could be a good news actually. It mean China economic growth is so robust, and China has ample opportunity for nuclear and gas power plant, including coal gassification technology.


China is way behind the world when it comes to renewable energy

look at Scotland we are world leaders

 
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This could be a good news actually. It mean China economic growth is so robust, and China has ample opportunity for nuclear and gas power plant, including coal gassification technology.

They get over 56% of electrical energy from coal while the US relies on it for less than 20%. It's just an energy maturity issue.

The US even exports coal to China.

 
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China is way behind the world when it comes to renewable energy

look at Scotland we are world leaders

Scotland doing great in electricity from wind farms but I think the phase-out of combustion engine vehicles will take maybe 20 years 2032 seems a little optimistic.
 
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Scotland doing great in electricity from wind farms but I think the phase-out of combustion engine vehicles will take maybe 20 years 2032 seems a little optimistic.

yes you won't believe we have huge spur in building of charging stations here

they are everywhere and also the new A9 will be called the new intelligent highway with many plug ins

Glasgow, Aberdeen and Dundee have fuel cell double decker buses and gauge lorries in Glasgow just got new hydrogen fuel trucks
 
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yes you won't believe we have huge spur in building of charging stations here

they are everywhere and also the new A9 will be called the new intelligent highway with many plug ins

Glasgow, Aberdeen and Dundee have fuel cell double decker buses and gauge lorries in Glasgow just got new hydrogen fuel trucks
I remember a news report think channel 4 did it showed how you boys doing so well first time i started thinking that solar and wind electricity generation plus renewable the way forward. I think that England should also take note and start more wind farms in the north sea.

Think 20 years might be the time it takes for electrical vehicles to take over the technology only going to get better and it be good for our kids lives and future generations. Something ilike about the sound of a combustion engine will make me keep one as a novelty to drive occasionally.
 
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I remember a news report think channel 4 did it showed how you boys doing so well first time i started thinking that solar and wind electricity generation plus renewable the way forward. I think that England should also take note and start more wind farms in the north sea.

yes we now have new stuff

wind farm the electricity goes to a eletrolyzer and that splits water and tuns it into "green hydrogen"

also giant batteries can also store the energy as well as pumping water up to river stations and releasing when power is at its peak
 
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yes we now have new stuff

wind farm the electricity goes to a eletrolyzer and that splits water and tuns it into "green hydrogen"

also giant batteries can also store the energy as well as pumping water up to river stations and releasing when power is at its peak
The sector is growing so quick 5 years ago i was in the mind of nuclear power as a way to not rely on fossil fuels now it this. I used to laugh at the idea of green energy would call it a hippy fantasy now I'm glad i been shut up. We have a haulage firm in the states and cant wait until we start moving over and hopefully save on diesel costs and do our bit for the world. Truck manufacturers like Freightliner are bringing them out and with waits at depos charging can be done while we wait.
 
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China is way behind the world when it comes to renewable energy

look at Scotland we are world leaders



LOLs. Wake up dude... China is the world leader in the green energy technology even surpassing US. :laugh:

China is crushing the U.S. in renewable energy

How China Came to Dominate Clean Energy Technologies, and How the US Can Catch Up

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They get over 56% of electrical energy from coal while the US relies on it for less than 20%. It's just an energy maturity issue.

The US even exports coal to China.



The reason is because China consume electricity much more than US - almost twice. In the meantime coal is still the cheapest fuel to produce electricity, which is demanded by manufacturing industry.
 
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