China has delivered HJ-12E Red Arrow 12 anti-tank missile weapon to foreign customer

[Philip the Arab]

For such modern systems, no one easily gives TOT. Don't think the HJ 12 or the Omtas - Karaok is the same as other laser guided atgms

It isn't, but China will give at the minimum licensing(assembly) to Pakistan if it wanted in my opinion. I can't say the same for Turkey.

MI-35s and Viper prototype fielded russian atgms.
Basically mechanised & mobile infantry.

Konkurs is old and insufficient for taking out Indian tanks. I think Ukranian Skif(Kornet type missile) would be great for taking out Indian tanks with 1100 mm penetration.

In fact, Aselsan and Ukroboronprom turret for Qatar using Skif.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

It isn't, but China will give at the minimum licensing(assembly) to Pakistan if it wanted in my opinion. I can't say the same for Turkey.

Pakistan produces its missiles. It doesnt need assembly!
If any imported atgm is to replace the Baktar Shikan than it would have to be much more capable & produced in house.

Konkurs is old and insufficient for taking out Indian tanks. I think Ukranian Skif(Kornet type missile) would be great for taking out Indian tanks with 1100 mm penetration.

In fact, Aselsan and Ukroboronprom turret for Qatar using Skif.

Nothing has been chosen.

This is a prototype.

While MI-35 will carry atgms

 

[RadarGudumluMuhimmat]

Nothing has been chosen.

This is a prototype.

I'm glad about that. if u are use a vehicle with expensive systems must be more modern.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I'm glad about that. if u are use a vehicle with expensive systems must be more modern.

Im in favour of Turkish ATGMs.

 

[RadarGudumluMuhimmat]

Im in favour of Turkish ATGMs.

Chinese counterparts do the same, but I agree with phillip. Israel equips Indians with modern weapons, you don't always have 80s Serbs or third-class Shiia militants. The Pakistani army deserves more than wire guidance, Kornets are good for the jobs.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Chinese counterparts do the same, but I agree with phillip. Israel equips Indians with modern weapons, you don't always have 80s Serbs or third-class Shiia militants. The Pakistani army deserves more than wire guidance, Kornets are good for the jobs.

We did order kornet e:

https://quwa.org/2019/10/06/pakistan-ordered-kornet-e-anti-tank-guided-missiles-in-2017-2018/

 

[Philip the Arab]

We did order kornet e:

https://quwa.org/2019/10/06/pakistan-ordered-kornet-e-anti-tank-guided-missiles-in-2017-2018/

I think that is for helis or something right? My idea seems good, Jordan has gained knowledge from Ukraine by licensing, assembling, and producing a lightweight ATGM called the Korsar. I'm sure Pakistan being a much larger country with a technological base can start producing the whole missile for all of its vehicles while also getting something man portable that is a reliable tank killer.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I think that is for helis or something right? My idea seems good, Jordan has gained knowledge from Ukraine by licensing, assembling, and producing a lightweight ATGM called the Korsar. I'm sure Pakistan being a much larger country with a technological base can start producing the whole missile for all of its vehicles while also getting something man portable that is a reliable tank killer.

They bought 52 launchers and hundreds of missiles.

That said there seems to be a pattern, Pak has buy buying these light man portable missiles as additional capability. These are not replacements for TOWs, Baktar Shikans or Buraq (laser guided) atgms.

Pakistan also bought Alcotan 100

https://quwa.org/2017/05/22/pakistan-acquired-instalaza-alcotan-100-anti-tank-rocket-systems/

 

[StormBreaker]

I think that is for helis or something right? My idea seems good, Jordan has gained knowledge from Ukraine by licensing, assembling, and producing a lightweight ATGM called the Korsar. I'm sure Pakistan being a much larger country with a technological base can start producing the whole missile for all of its vehicles while also getting something man portable that is a reliable tank killer.

Thought you left the forum for good, welcome back !!
Diversity is a blessing

 

[RadarGudumluMuhimmat]

Thought you left the forum for good, welcome back !!
Diversity is a blessing

In general, there is a lot of fight nationality in this forum, but at least it is nice to talk technical topics with someone close to my geography, otherwise I can't find anything in the forum other than Pakistani and Indians having political talk with each other.

 

[Philip the Arab]

They bought 52 launchers and hundreds of missiles.

That said there seems to be a pattern, Pak has buy buying these light man portable missiles as additional capability. These are not replacements for TOWs, Baktar Shikans or Buraq (laser guided) atgms.

Pakistan also bought Alcotan 100

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https://quwa.org/2017/05/22/pakistan-acquired-instalaza-alcotan-100-anti-tank-rocket-systems/

Well as I said, a solid strategy would just be mass producing a replacement for these systems asap. Systems currently in service are insufficient at stopping Indian tanks just in all honesty.

Thought you left the forum for good, welcome back !!
Diversity is a blessing

I am back for now while my school is switched online.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Well as I said, a solid strategy would just be mass producing a replacement for these systems asap. Systems currently in service are insufficient at stopping Indian tanks just in all honesty.


I am back for now while my school is switched online.

What we need is a fire & forget missile.

 

[polanski]

Norinco Wechat account says Nigeria is the customer. Easy sale. China will lend money to build a highways with a caveat that the customer buys Chinese weapons. This is called "The 'One Belt, One Road' (OBOR) initiative" by Uncle Xi.

https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2020/04/09/china-exports-first-hj-12-atgm-to-nigeria/
https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2...illery-vt4-mbt-sti-tank-destroyer-to-nigeria/

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Norinco Wechat account says Nigeria is the customer. Easy sale. China will lend money to build a highways with a caveat that the customer buys Chinese weapons. This is called "The 'One Belt, One Road' (OBOR) initiative" by Uncle Xi.

https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2020/04/09/china-exports-first-hj-12-atgm-to-nigeria/
https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2...illery-vt4-mbt-sti-tank-destroyer-to-nigeria/

It never ceases to amaze me how completely devoid of self-awareness and shame Americans are. Has God ever made a creature as repugnant and pathological as the common American?

 

[Akh1112]

No tanks on LOC though..
Only India showboating with Apaches

modern ATGM's can be used on helicopters too.