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China GDP plummets to 0.4% in Q2

U.S. first-quarter GDP shrank 1.6%. I bet US will shrank more in second quater.

No one give shit about india's data at all.
Trump called out India for lying on their data...

But back to China. Full lockdowns won’t work. They need high quality vaccines and mass vaccinations. Then let the chips fall where they may; that’s what the healthcare system is therefore. As Pakistan showed, public health and the economy need to be balanced. Chinese leadership needs to give a pass to its local and provincial leadership for blame if people succumb to the virus after all reasonable attempts are made to keep people safe. I recently spoke to a Beijing restaurant owner on vacation in the US, and she said that those with deep pockets are managing but young people are suffering (for lack of work). Also, if young people don’t work, this will have a generational effect on Chinese society, as young people have fewer kids. So every 20-25 years will see a drop in GDP growth as there are fewer workers and consumers.

if I had to guess, Chinese scientists are working around the clock on their own mRNA vaccines but aren’t as confident in them being as effective as the Pfizer ones. Either way, they need to mass vaccinate with what they have and open up, unless they want to be done in by nature and internal politics.

As for the US economy, it’s rough right now, probably will be for a few years, but fundamentally the US economy is more stable then any other. The dollar is strong and in probably 3-5 years we will be back on a path to grow again. We are in the “2006/2007 phase” of the 2007-2012 recession/recovery. Chinese economic output will have a knock on effect on the US economy, so that is a variable we in the US have to take into effect; hence the drive for onshoring (where possible and economical) and shorter supply chains; between producers and consumers.
 
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Trump called out India for lying on their data...

But back to China. Full lockdowns won’t work. They need high quality vaccines and mass vaccinations. Then let the chips fall where they may; that’s what the healthcare system is therefore. As Pakistan showed, public health and the economy need to be balanced. Chinese leadership needs to give a pass to its local and provincial leadership for blame if people succumb to the virus after all reasonable attempts are made to keep people safe. I recently spoke to a Beijing restaurant owner on vacation in the US, and she said that those with deep pockets are managing but young people are suffering (for lack of work). Also, if young people don’t work, this will have a generational effect on Chinese society, as young people have fewer kids. So every 20-25 years will see a drop in GDP growth as there are fewer workers and consumers.

if I had to guess, Chinese scientists are working around the clock on their own mRNA vaccines but aren’t as confident in them being as effective as the Pfizer ones. Either way, they need to mass vaccinate with what they have and open up, unless they want to be done in by nature and internal politics.

As for the US economy, it’s rough right now, probably will be for a few years, but fundamentally the US economy is more stable then any other. The dollar is strong and in probably 3-5 years we will be back on a path to grow again. We are in the “2006/2007 phase” of the 2007-2012 recession/recovery. Chinese economic output will have a knock on effect on the US economy, so that is a variable we in the US have to take into effect; hence the drive for onshoring (where possible and economical) and shorter supply chains; between producers and consumers.
We have enough high-quality vaccines.

The real problem is that older people with chronic diseases cannot safely use these vaccines.

We can't give up those old people.

Blockade of cities is not a big problem. Human life is more important than money.
 
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China doesn't have low human right advantage.
Many Western media have called on China to lift the blockade, not that they really care about China's economy.

And they worry that China's blockade will exacerbate inflation.

In fact, inflation was caused by the US dollar interest rate hike and the war in Ukraine, which had nothing to do with China's blockade.
 
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Chinese banks are having a liquidity crunch, huge number of people are outside demanding their money to be withdrawn.

The chinese bubble is finally bursting.

They will fudge numbers again or find a way. Cockroaches find a way to survive.
 
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Given Chinese propensity to lie and fudge numbers, even that seems too high.
This is a 150cm Indian corpse. Is it saying that others are lying and fudge numbers?

150cm little Indian corpse: we win 1967.
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Chinese banks are having a liquidity crunch, huge number of people are outside demanding their money to be withdrawn.

The chinese bubble is finally bursting.
.........? A junk country with a per capita GDP of only $2000 talks about an economic foam...

In our human world, India's international credit rating is BBB- junk.

They will fudge numbers again or find a way. Cockroaches find a way to survive.
You come from a country that rapes and eats lizards. Who do you think will believe any data from India in the world?
 
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This is a 150cm Indian corpse. Is it saying that others are lying and fudge numbers?

150cm little Indian corpse: we win 1967.
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.........? A junk country with a per capita GDP of only $2000 talks about an economic foam...

In our human world, India's international credit rating is BBB- junk.


You come from a country that rapes and eats lizards. Who do you think will believe any data from India in the world?

Type in comprehensible English. I am sure you can. Try.
 
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what? 150cm little Indians talk about English. Have you forgotten India's lowest literacy rate in the world???

First, let Indians popularize electricity, tap water and toilets. Then talk about English. OK?
Once again. Try. I am sure you will eventually write a comprehensible sentence. Attaboy.

Indians saved you from the Japanese. Least you can do is talk in a way that makes sense.

Just to jog your memory - what Indians saved you from -

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In summary, China locked down Shanghai, save lives, lowered gdp while usa let covid rip with millions of death & injuries, yet still had their gdp shrank.
Yes that was exactly what happened.

Once again. Try. I am sure you will eventually write a comprehensible sentence. Attaboy.

Indians saved you from the Japanese. Least you can do is talk in a way that makes sense.

Just to jog your memory - what Indians saved you from -

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We saved you from the Japs, tying them down in mainland China, else you would have been fried chapati.
 
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Investors will move away from this.

Chinki fudged numbers won't give them returns.
Yes, you are right. Investors are moving away from countries that fabricate economic data.




Consequently, between 2019 and 2021, the share of FDI inflows to China (including that to Hong Kong) went up from 14.5% to 20.3%, while that to India shrunk from 3.4% to 2.8%.


India’s Share of Global FDI Inflows Shrinks Sharply​


The World Investment Report 2022 shows that the structure of global foreign direct investment (FDI) flows has been affected significantly by the pandemic. The report brought out by the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) indicates that global FDI inflows staged a smart recovery in 2021 rising by a substantial 64.3% to touch $1.58 trillion, thus surpassing the pre-pandemic flows. This is in sharp contrast to the 35% fall in FDI inflows to $963 billion in 2020.

A major consequence of the pandemic was that the share of FDI inflows to developed economies slipped to just around one-third in 2020, the lowest recorded. Though the FDI inflows to developed economies more than doubled to $746 billion in 2021, its share in global FDI inflows still remained lower than that of the developing economies. A major reason for the shrinking share of developed economies in global FDI inflows is the decline of inflows into the European Union (EU) for two consecutive years, which reduced its share in global FDI inflows from around a quarter to less than a tenth.

Another major consequence of the pandemic was that FDI outflows from developed countries rose sharply from around two-thirds of the global outflows in the pre-pandemic years to around three-fourths in 2021. This surge was mainly powered by the United States (US), which now emerged as the largest source of FDIs. The US now accounts for close to a quarter of global FDI outflows, marginally exceeding even that of the EU. Another major change noticed after the pandemic was that, for the first time, in many years, the global outflows of FDI from almost all major developed countries were higher than their FDI inflows.

Similarly, another major fallout of the pandemic was that the developing countries have now become the dominant beneficiaries of global FDI inflows with its share exceeding that of developed countries both in 2020 and 2021. However, the pickup in FDI inflows to developing economies was sharply skewed. While FDI inflows to Africa more than doubled to $82.9 billion in 2021 and that to South America surged by three-fourths to $88 billion, both flows probably buoyed up by the global commodity boom. However, FDI inflows into Asia barely grew by around one-fifth. And this was also highly skewed. While inflows increased by around half in South East Asia and West Asia, it declined by a quarter in South Asia.

What is surprising is that the disruption of supply chains and the setback to globalisation during the pandemic seems to have had no significant impact on the geographical distribution of FDI inflows. Though many developed countries repeatedly promised to reduce the global dependence on China’s exports and ward off trade vulnerabilities by diverting investments to other areas, these initiatives seem to have floundered. In fact, the trends show that the result has been the opposite with FDI inflows to China accelerating even as FDI inflows to other developing countries like India falter badly.

Consequently, between 2019 and 2021, the share of FDI inflows to China (including that to Hong Kong) went up from 14.5% to 20.3%, while that to India shrunk from 3.4% to 2.8%. Certainly, India seems to have failed to take advantage of the new opportunities offered by the pandemic. The efforts to persuade the world to bring in increasingly larger share of the FDI flows within its shores and diversify the global supply chains have apparently not borne fruit. Similarly, the slowdown in the economy has also affected FDI outflows from India with its share in global FDI outflows slumping down to 2.8%, the lowest level across the last four years.

The Government of India data on the FDI show that equity inflows have declined by around one-fifth to $51.3 billion in 2021. However, the decline was not uniform. While FDI inflows from Mauritius, the largest contributor to the cumulative FDI inflows into India, more than doubled to $8.7 billion in 2021, that from Germany and Japan increased by around a quarter. However, FDI inflows from almost all other major investor nations declined. While FDI from Singapore, the US, the Netherlands, and United Arab Emirates fell by more than a quarter, that from the United Kingdom and Cayman Islands fell by around one-fifth.

However, the bulk of decline in FDI flows in 2021 was due to the fall in investments in the computer software and hardware, the biggest segment, which fell by half to $12 billion. Similarly, FDI inflows into infrastructure and construction sectors also declined by half. Surprisingly, FDI inflows to services (that include finance, banking, insurance, research and development, and others), which account for more than a tenth of the total FDI inflows, rose by a quarter to touch $6.5 billion in 2021. In manufacturing, the improvement in FDI inflows was largely confined to automobiles, drugs and pharmaceuticals. Clearly, India still has a long way to go to emerge as a manufacturing hub in the global economy.

The steady decline of FDI outflows from the EU is a major setback for India, more so because India has failed to tap the potential for increasing inflows from the US, which has emerged as the largest source of FDI outflows. The consequent slump in the share of FDI inflows into India should set alarm bells ringing in the government. Certainly, it is still not too late to woo new investments to reduce global supply chain vulnerabilities and the excessive dependence on China.
 
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Even in a thread about China, all the Chinese do is compare themselves to India. Just how many of them want to join their 100,000 Chinese as refugees here?
 
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Even in a thread about China, all the Chinese do is compare themselves to India. Just how many of them want to join their 100,000 Chinese as refugees here?
You mean those traitors who follow the Dalai Lama?

If the Chinese government is willing to pardon them and give them Chinese passports. They will leave the cesspit in India and return to China at the first time.

But we will not forgive them, leaving them in India is a punishment.
 
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