China Forcibly Separating Thousands Of Children From Families In Xinjiang, Report

[Kai Liu]

Maybe that's what India is doing, China helps preserve minorities culture, people can see that first hand if they travel to minority regions , from frigid north the Evenki reindeer herders to tropical south Dai( Thai) culture, from Mongol hermen to Tajik Pamir mountain dewellers, China celebrates all of their unique cultures.


A typical Indian troll when they run out of argument, I 've been called such for hundreds of times.

50 cents are just too important for them, it only needs 4 posts/day to make them a 2 dollar middle class ... This is why they are so obsessed with it...lol...

 

[American Pakistani]

Lives in America.. curses America..

Furthermore, I have no clue where you got that "curse" intent in my post. I was pointing out at western hypocrisy (human hypocrisy in general).

 

[beijingwalker]

Yeah like how you "explained" (or was it dictated?) to those Pakistani members before that Muslims shouldn't pray 5 times a day or grow beards or keep uighur traditional customs...its apparently bad for CPC national cohesion and conformity!

Many countries don't give students time go pray in schools, even each school may have different rule, that's very natural, China has large number of followers of many religions, if each of them demand certain time to pray in schools, schools schedule would be so messed up and non religious students will suffer from achieving good scores, that everything matters in Chinese schools. As for beard, forced eating pork. ban on hijabs... those are no brain propaganda.

You try too hard pal. These children getting put into camps too, so they grow up forgetting their culture will only prove you lot lost the argument of so called "chinese diversity and tolerance".
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That's something done by US, Canada and Australia, not China.

The Recent History of Americans Separating Children from Their Families

 

[American Pakistani]

When your own is on fire...do not think about others...Rather protect yours...For your kind info China is not a Muslim country either..

Mine is definitely not, however can't say the same abt you.

Should I remind you China has not butchered millions of Muslims nor occupied their territories, nor Chinese territories are disputed unlike IOK Indian occupied Kashmir and Palestine.

 

[Nilgiri]

That's something done by US, Canada and Australia, not China.

It was wrong when those countries did such to the aboriginals/natives. They have commissions to investigate and compensate these wrongs.

Doesn't make it right for China to do same today....that too can we expect a truth commision for it in future? Has one even been done for GLF and cultural revolution excesses? Only few ringleaders that were political convenient to scapegoat were punished on those.

With this level of attention China is getting on the issue.... and past and recent track record of China's govt opaqueness...I find it hard to believe there is only smoke but no fire.

But hey you keep going here, I am sure the effort you put in will pay off given the grand entirety of the people seeing this stuff now.

 

[beijingwalker]

It was wrong when those countries did such to the aboriginals/natives. They have commissions to investigate and compensate these wrongs.

Doesn't make it right for China to do same today.

China doesn't do it, BBC did, China does have many boarding schools, BBC can call all of them dentention centers.

See a father braves heavy blizzard trying to send his kid to "detention centers"

A massive blizzard blocked a Pamir mountain village in Khunjerab, the snow reached 3 meters deep and the region was completely cut off, Khunjerab police officers immediately reported the disaster to the higher government and moblized bolldozers, trucks and police cars and worked the whole night and day at 5300 meters above sea level to clear the road to get 136 kids from the village to school.

This is a village school in the middle of the world 2nd biggest desert, Taklamakan desert, the poorest region in Xinjiang, but they still live better than you Indian kids even in the cities.

 

[055_destroyer]

I never deny there is no human rights abuses going on in Kashmir and rest of India too (and region/world more broadly in all kind of places).

But there is no state sanctioned systemic purging of a culture by destroying numerous places of worship (as can be witnessed by satellite imagery and simple before and after pics on the ground), putting large numbers of people forcefully in re-education camps...and now this, taking their children and putting them in such camps to be brainwashed away from their culture too.

Your govt operates on a scale of several magnitudes higher than anyone else with such insidiousness (i.e total cultural wiping out)....because it fears any other culture and way of thinking.

Whatever you and that beijingwalker type of ppl post in this forum non-stop to try convince a small crowd here...or "justify" in some way, just know that its waste of time in the end....you can read the youtube comments to know why.

The tighter you extreme conformity authoritarians squeeze, the more slips through your fingers. More and more people see this.

You admit your india got human right abuse and that makes u have right to come criticise China xinjiang situation? Settle your own problem first before come here and talk. You do not have good intentions for uyghur. Just come here stir and provoke China. Talking more about abuse is just hypocrisy of you.

 

[Nilgiri]

China doesn't do it, BBC did, China does have many boarding schools, BBC can call all of them dentention centers.

See a father braves heavy blizzard trying to send his kid to "detention centers"

A massive blizzard blocked a Pamir mountain village in Khunjerab, the snow reached 3 meters deep and the region was completely cut off, Khunjerab police officers immediately reported the disaster to the higher government and moblized bolldozers, trucks and police cars and worked the whole night and day at 5300 meters above sea level to clear the road to get 136 kids from the village to school.

This is a village school in the middle of the world 2nd biggest desert, Taklamakan desert, the poorest region in Xinjiang, but they still live better than you Indian kids even in the cities.

Ok keep posting the cringey CPC propaganda stuff mr bot. Then you scratch your head why no one takes you seriously. You cannot take one tiny bit of criticism on your country or even allow for the possibility it indulges in such things to even some small extent.

When you are that sensitive and brittle, people intuit about the reality behind it just that much more. Have fun.

 

[beijingwalker]

Ok keep posting the cringey CPC propaganda stuff mr bot.

From 50 cents to bots, you have many colorful names for Chinese posters here, but it won't change the fact that China is doing so well, your India is nowhere close to her.

 

[055_destroyer]

Ok keep posting the cringey CPC propaganda stuff mr bot. Then you scratch your head why no one takes you seriously. You cannot take one tiny bit of criticism on your country or even allow for the possibility it indulges in such things to even some small extent.

When you are that sensitive and brittle, people intuit about the reality behind it just that much more. Have fun.

I will be glad if the criticism is constructive but slandering and fake news is no intend to solve problem but stir problem.

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1. n 2015, Thaipusam musicians were ordered to stop playing their instruments after a Filipino family complained about the noise.
   
   
   
2. In 2016, the roof collapsed at the HDB Build-To-Order project Punggol Waterway Terraces.
   
   
   
3. In 2018, someone reported that a halal stall in Jurong East was selling pork belly.

How do you feel about these stories? Shocked? Concerned? Feel like sharing them with your friends? Before you do, have you thought to pause and consider if these news stories are actually real?

Your source about xinjiang is just to cause hatred and misled Intention to cause hatred from other nation. Jealous is written all on your face about progress of China while failure of Indian progress.

 

[Nilgiri]

You admit your india got human right abuse and that makes u have right to come criticise China xinjiang situation? Settle your own problem first before come here and talk. You do not have good intentions for uyghur. Just come here stir and provoke China. Talking more about abuse is just hypocrisy of you.

So your position essentially is that no person from any country can criticize any other country govt? Notice how I said govt too (I don't apply to all Chinese people). No govt is perfect. No country is perfect. No problems will ever be solved 100% in any country. So there should be no criticism across borders?

Or someone should simply not admit any human right abuses in their own country.......and then they can criticize another?

From 50 cents to bots, you have many colorful names for Chinese posters here, but it won't change the fact that China is doing so well, your India is nowhere close to her.

Bray whatever you want to. It is your opinion....and in the end 50 cent army effectively just gets confirmed by everyone else. No higher thought, no actual debate....just you copy and pasting whatever with the huge time you have each day.

Very different from BBC conducting interviews with Uighur people and satellite imagery of mosques, before and after.

If you don't find it credible, thats on you. Leave others to decide for themselves. Or thats a foreign concept to you too?

 

[beijingwalker]

So your position essentially is that no person from any country can criticize any other country govt

Calling us 50 cents and bots are only a good way to start a constructive criticism.

 

[055_destroyer]

So your position essentially is that no person from any country can criticize any other country govt? Notice how I said govt too (I don't apply to all Chinese people). No govt is perfect. No country is perfect. No problems will ever be solved 100% in any country. So there should be no criticism across borders?

Or someone should simply not admit any human right abuses in their own country.......and then they can criticize another?

Typical diverting the topic. Here I am criticism about the fake source and fake news you link. Taking criticism is one thing but making things up like 3 million uighur kept inside camp is absurd. No sane human will believe becos that will be logistic nightmare plus as some say, you will not see much uighur on kashgar which is proven false as many tourist still there to witness the crowd and uighur local there. Even Singapore government realise the danger of fake news and launch a campaign about it. It purpose is to cause unrest and subversion. It is never to so called take constructive criticism.


heard of these 3 news stories?

1. here.
   
   
   
2. Police and Civil Defence Force officers, as well as HDB and town council officers, actually rushed to the location, only to find out it is a hoax! Read more here.
   
   
   
3. Many netizens condemned the stall and left negative comments. The stall’s business suffered badly due to this irresponsible report. Read more here.

As you can see now, fake news can be quite serious and even pose real dangers to society in the following ways:

• Damage to reputation
• Causing public alarm
• Causing tension between racial and religious groups
• Causing tension between public and government

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[Nilgiri]

I will be glad if the criticism is constructive but slandering and fake news is no intend to solve problem but stir problem.

Again what is fake news or not, is left to the individual to decide. You can't enforce any monolith narrative on that outside your orwellian country. If it upsets you and you have to resort to false equivalencies, strawmen, whataboutism and ad hominem......too bad. It just ruins your argument, not mine.

 

[beijingwalker]

in the end 50 cent army effectively just gets confirmed by everyone else. No higher thought, no actual debate....just you copy and pasting whatever with the huge time you have each day.

Do you have any proof that I m a 50 cents or a bot that you've been calling me? That's baseless personal slandering, not constructive criticism you claimed.