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China has narrowly escaped major financial crises for over two decades. But the good times may soon be over — and not because of the recent stock market crash.

The roller coaster of Chinese stock prices this summer has triggered debates about whether China now faces a serious economic crisis. The Telegraph compared China’s equity bubbles to the situation that led to the 1929 Great Depression. The New York Times and Fortune, on the other hand, have argued that the equity bubbles are merely false alarms, and fears about China are overblown.

In the short term, the latter argument is more convincing: China’s equity crisis has affected fewer than 15 percent of Chinese households. And the majority of these middle class investors have only lost money gained a few months earlier, when stock prices spiked. Even after the recent crash, the Shanghai Stock Exchange’s Composite Index still stands 1,000 points higher than it did in July 2014. In any case, stock values are just 1.5 percent of total assets in the Chinese banking system, and most Chinese companies are not financed by the stock market. The consumer confidence index shows that the trend of growing consumption by both urban and rural Chinese remains stable. And Chinese authorities still have the power and flexibility to mobilize economic growth, for example, by loosening monetary policy to allow high liquidity of credit, or by expanding fiscal measures to stimulate household consumption.

But while the Chinese economy is unlikely to crash anytime soon, China nonetheless faces a high probability of being the next major power to face an economic collapse.

One major reason is industrial overcapacity. Overcapacity is not new in China, but in sectors such as iron and steel, glass, cement, aluminum, solar panel, and power generation equipment, the overcapacity rate has recently surpassed 30 percent, the threshold at which overproduction may trigger loan defaults by companies that have borrowed and then watched their profits fall. According to the China Iron and Steel Association, oversupply has depressed steel prices so much that the profit from producing one ton of steel cannot even pay for an ice cream cone.

Production has run rampant because of vicious competition between local governments. In order to achieve high GDP growth, local governments attract new manufacturing facilities by offering all kinds of financial subsidies such as tax holidays and rent-free use of government land. Further, local governments help firms to get cheap loans from state-owned banks. These favors unnaturally decrease production costs.

Industrial overcapacity has become a time bomb that threatens the Chinese economy because it has led companies to take on debt to repay loans. As of 2014, Chinese iron and steel companies collectively have $489 billion in debt. The publicly-listed solar panel manufacturing companies collectively have as much as $19 billion in debt. The combination of economic slowdown, excess production in manufacturing and rising debts at the macroeconomic level may cause a massive wave of firm closures and bad loans.

If this bomb detonates, the repercussions could be extraordinary. Because China does not have the mature social safety net of a country like Japan, and also lacks the political stability of the United States, it could face not only an economic blow-up but also serious social and political upheaval.

To avoid a crisis, Xi and his policymakers must focus on reining in China’s overcapacity problem.

First, Xi should set up strict rules for local governments that regulate tax concessions, and ensure that all government subsidies to private firms are transparent. Based on these rules, Xi could better guide the country’s economic transition towards an innovation and services sectors economy.

Secondly, Xi and his administration should allow and even encourage bankruptcy liquidation of failed firms, in spite of opposition from local governments. Overprotection of failed firms has helped to perpetuate bad management and low efficiency.

Thirdly, Xi’s government needs to accelerate reforms of China’s financial markets. In the current financial system dominated by state-owned banks, firms focus on growing as big as possible rather than innovating, which is leading to overcapacity. State-owned banks prefer lending money to large-scale projects that are backed by local governments because the bigger the firm, the more protection it receives from the government. China must encourage private equity, small and medium enterprises bonds, and equity crowd-funding, and it should allow the development of community and village banks that serve local firms. In these areas, the United States has lots of experiences and expertise to offer.

Finally, Xi should promote freedom of the press, which plays a crucial role in economic development, poverty reduction and the establishment of good governance. A free press would help Xi’s reform agenda by monitoring and criticizing rule-breaking by local governments, as well as making government budget and subsidy programs more transparent.

Xi’s visit to the United States and his attendance at the United Nations Sustainable Development Summit take place at a moment when the Chinese economy has reached its tipping point. Xi should be confident, but not complacent.
As Xi visits the United States, China’s economy is at a tipping point

Time to bust this party.
 
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China has narrowly escaped major financial crises for over two decades. But the good times may soon be over — and not because of the recent stock market crash.

The roller coaster of Chinese stock prices this summer has triggered debates about whether China now faces a serious economic crisis. The Telegraph compared China’s equity bubbles to the situation that led to the 1929 Great Depression. The New York Times and Fortune, on the other hand, have argued that the equity bubbles are merely false alarms, and fears about China are overblown.

In the short term, the latter argument is more convincing: China’s equity crisis has affected fewer than 15 percent of Chinese households. And the majority of these middle class investors have only lost money gained a few months earlier, when stock prices spiked. Even after the recent crash, the Shanghai Stock Exchange’s Composite Index still stands 1,000 points higher than it did in July 2014. In any case, stock values are just 1.5 percent of total assets in the Chinese banking system, and most Chinese companies are not financed by the stock market. The consumer confidence index shows that the trend of growing consumption by both urban and rural Chinese remains stable. And Chinese authorities still have the power and flexibility to mobilize economic growth, for example, by loosening monetary policy to allow high liquidity of credit, or by expanding fiscal measures to stimulate household consumption.

But while the Chinese economy is unlikely to crash anytime soon, China nonetheless faces a high probability of being the next major power to face an economic collapse.

One major reason is industrial overcapacity. Overcapacity is not new in China, but in sectors such as iron and steel, glass, cement, aluminum, solar panel, and power generation equipment, the overcapacity rate has recently surpassed 30 percent, the threshold at which overproduction may trigger loan defaults by companies that have borrowed and then watched their profits fall. According to the China Iron and Steel Association, oversupply has depressed steel prices so much that the profit from producing one ton of steel cannot even pay for an ice cream cone.

Production has run rampant because of vicious competition between local governments. In order to achieve high GDP growth, local governments attract new manufacturing facilities by offering all kinds of financial subsidies such as tax holidays and rent-free use of government land. Further, local governments help firms to get cheap loans from state-owned banks. These favors unnaturally decrease production costs.

Industrial overcapacity has become a time bomb that threatens the Chinese economy because it has led companies to take on debt to repay loans. As of 2014, Chinese iron and steel companies collectively have $489 billion in debt. The publicly-listed solar panel manufacturing companies collectively have as much as $19 billion in debt. The combination of economic slowdown, excess production in manufacturing and rising debts at the macroeconomic level may cause a massive wave of firm closures and bad loans.

If this bomb detonates, the repercussions could be extraordinary. Because China does not have the mature social safety net of a country like Japan, and also lacks the political stability of the United States, it could face not only an economic blow-up but also serious social and political upheaval.

To avoid a crisis, Xi and his policymakers must focus on reining in China’s overcapacity problem.

First, Xi should set up strict rules for local governments that regulate tax concessions, and ensure that all government subsidies to private firms are transparent. Based on these rules, Xi could better guide the country’s economic transition towards an innovation and services sectors economy.

Secondly, Xi and his administration should allow and even encourage bankruptcy liquidation of failed firms, in spite of opposition from local governments. Overprotection of failed firms has helped to perpetuate bad management and low efficiency.

Thirdly, Xi’s government needs to accelerate reforms of China’s financial markets. In the current financial system dominated by state-owned banks, firms focus on growing as big as possible rather than innovating, which is leading to overcapacity. State-owned banks prefer lending money to large-scale projects that are backed by local governments because the bigger the firm, the more protection it receives from the government. China must encourage private equity, small and medium enterprises bonds, and equity crowd-funding, and it should allow the development of community and village banks that serve local firms. In these areas, the United States has lots of experiences and expertise to offer.

Finally, Xi should promote freedom of the press, which plays a crucial role in economic development, poverty reduction and the establishment of good governance. A free press would help Xi’s reform agenda by monitoring and criticizing rule-breaking by local governments, as well as making government budget and subsidy programs more transparent.

Xi’s visit to the United States and his attendance at the United Nations Sustainable Development Summit take place at a moment when the Chinese economy has reached its tipping point. Xi should be confident, but not complacent.
As Xi visits the United States, China’s economy is at a tipping point

Time to bust this party.



Gordon Chang, is that you disguise as a Turk?
 
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China has narrowly escaped major financial crises for over two decades. But the good times may soon be over — and not because of the recent stock market crash.

The roller coaster of Chinese stock prices this summer has triggered debates about whether China now faces a serious economic crisis. The Telegraph compared China’s equity bubbles to the situation that led to the 1929 Great Depression. The New York Times and Fortune, on the other hand, have argued that the equity bubbles are merely false alarms, and fears about China are overblown.

In the short term, the latter argument is more convincing: China’s equity crisis has affected fewer than 15 percent of Chinese households. And the majority of these middle class investors have only lost money gained a few months earlier, when stock prices spiked. Even after the recent crash, the Shanghai Stock Exchange’s Composite Index still stands 1,000 points higher than it did in July 2014. In any case, stock values are just 1.5 percent of total assets in the Chinese banking system, and most Chinese companies are not financed by the stock market. The consumer confidence index shows that the trend of growing consumption by both urban and rural Chinese remains stable. And Chinese authorities still have the power and flexibility to mobilize economic growth, for example, by loosening monetary policy to allow high liquidity of credit, or by expanding fiscal measures to stimulate household consumption.

But while the Chinese economy is unlikely to crash anytime soon, China nonetheless faces a high probability of being the next major power to face an economic collapse.

One major reason is industrial overcapacity. Overcapacity is not new in China, but in sectors such as iron and steel, glass, cement, aluminum, solar panel, and power generation equipment, the overcapacity rate has recently surpassed 30 percent, the threshold at which overproduction may trigger loan defaults by companies that have borrowed and then watched their profits fall. According to the China Iron and Steel Association, oversupply has depressed steel prices so much that the profit from producing one ton of steel cannot even pay for an ice cream cone.

Production has run rampant because of vicious competition between local governments. In order to achieve high GDP growth, local governments attract new manufacturing facilities by offering all kinds of financial subsidies such as tax holidays and rent-free use of government land. Further, local governments help firms to get cheap loans from state-owned banks. These favors unnaturally decrease production costs.

Industrial overcapacity has become a time bomb that threatens the Chinese economy because it has led companies to take on debt to repay loans. As of 2014, Chinese iron and steel companies collectively have $489 billion in debt. The publicly-listed solar panel manufacturing companies collectively have as much as $19 billion in debt. The combination of economic slowdown, excess production in manufacturing and rising debts at the macroeconomic level may cause a massive wave of firm closures and bad loans.

If this bomb detonates, the repercussions could be extraordinary. Because China does not have the mature social safety net of a country like Japan, and also lacks the political stability of the United States, it could face not only an economic blow-up but also serious social and political upheaval.

To avoid a crisis, Xi and his policymakers must focus on reining in China’s overcapacity problem.

First, Xi should set up strict rules for local governments that regulate tax concessions, and ensure that all government subsidies to private firms are transparent. Based on these rules, Xi could better guide the country’s economic transition towards an innovation and services sectors economy.

Secondly, Xi and his administration should allow and even encourage bankruptcy liquidation of failed firms, in spite of opposition from local governments. Overprotection of failed firms has helped to perpetuate bad management and low efficiency.

Thirdly, Xi’s government needs to accelerate reforms of China’s financial markets. In the current financial system dominated by state-owned banks, firms focus on growing as big as possible rather than innovating, which is leading to overcapacity. State-owned banks prefer lending money to large-scale projects that are backed by local governments because the bigger the firm, the more protection it receives from the government. China must encourage private equity, small and medium enterprises bonds, and equity crowd-funding, and it should allow the development of community and village banks that serve local firms. In these areas, the United States has lots of experiences and expertise to offer.

Finally, Xi should promote freedom of the press, which plays a crucial role in economic development, poverty reduction and the establishment of good governance. A free press would help Xi’s reform agenda by monitoring and criticizing rule-breaking by local governments, as well as making government budget and subsidy programs more transparent.

Xi’s visit to the United States and his attendance at the United Nations Sustainable Development Summit take place at a moment when the Chinese economy has reached its tipping point. Xi should be confident, but not complacent.
As Xi visits the United States, China’s economy is at a tipping point

Time to bust this party.

:lol: Turkey will go busted even before China. China with world largest foreign national reserve of nearly USD 4 trillion can weather for even a decade without affecting spending.

What's the greatest risk to Turkey's economy? - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

Turkish Economy Expands Briskly Despite Turmoil - WSJ
 
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Gordon Chang, is that you disguise as a Turk?
He is an internationally recognized expert on the topic. His predictions are becoming reality 1 by 1.

:lol: Turkey will go busted even before China. China with world largest foreign national reserve of nearly USD 4 trillion can weather for even a decade without affecting spending.

What's the greatest risk to Turkey's economy? - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

Turkish Economy Expands Briskly Despite Turmoil - WSJ
Chinaman goverment is spending like crazy. No way they can hold this up.

2015: The Year China Goes Broke? | The National Interest
 
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He is an internationally recognized expert on the topic. His predictions are becoming reality 1 by 1.


Chinaman goverment is spending like crazy. No way they can hold this up.

2015: The Year China Goes Broke? | The National Interest

Gordan chang is only recognised by US and China hater as expert. No other countries will think he is an expert.

As I say, China foreign national reserve is too much, it will take a decade to spend it up. If you want to talk abt China collapse, you will need to wait another 10 years and provided China achieve 0% growth for next 10 years. :D

Turkey while not as fortunate as China to have so much foreign national reserve.
 
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Gordan chang is only recognised by US and China hater as expert. No other countries will think he is an expert.

As I say, China foreign national reserve is too much, it will take a decade to spend it up. If you want to talk abt China collapse, you will need to wait another 10 years and provided China achieve 0% growth for next 10 years. :D

Turkey while not as fortunate as China to have so much foreign national reserve.
Actually if you read the article it explains how the Chinaman foreign national reserve will run out this year.
 
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Gordan chang is only recognised by US and China hater as expert. No other countries will think he is an expert.

As I say, China foreign national reserve is too much, it will take a decade to spend it up. If you want to talk abt China collapse, you will need to wait another 10 years and provided China achieve 0% growth for next 10 years. :D

Turkey while not as fortunate as China to have so much foreign national reserve.

Foreign exchange reserves are made up of more than just liquid funds. All foreign institutional investment, for example, is also counted as reserves, although the government needs to keep them available for immediate withdrawal. China has been burning through the reserves at the rate of at least $300 billion a month, if not more. That's why the Chinese government is issuing new bonds. It's not as rosy as you might have been led to believe.

The question is not one of Gordon Chang's credibility. It is about the fundamentals behind the conclusions. They are sound. Too much credit with no oversight is a recipe for disaster.
 
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China is wasting much funds in ghost cities, it should invest in India which has much infrastructure need and can offer higher returns
 
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AGAIN? How many times have China collapsed in the pas few months? (or last ten years according to Gordon Chang?) :hitwall:
 
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If the Chinese economy is in trouble the EU, USA and others will be in real shit as well.
 
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