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China establishes air-defence zone over East China Sea

China 'monitored' US bombers in new air zone
China monitored the flight of two US bombers that flew across its newly-declared "air defence identification zone", its defence ministry said.

The B-52 planes flew over disputed islands in the East China Sea on Tuesday without announcing themselves, defying new Chinese air defence rules.

Japan and the US are strongly opposed to the air zone declared by China.

They have accused China of unilaterally attempting to alter the status quo and escalate regional tensions.

The new air zone, announced by China on Saturday, overlaps with an air zone set out by Japan and covers disputed islands that are controlled by Japan.

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The islands, known as Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China, have been a source of severe tension between the two nations for months.

Japan says China's new zone is "invalid" and has asked its airlines not to provide flight information to the Chinese.

Both the ANA and JAL airlines had initially complied with the Chinese request for their flight plans but said late on Tuesday they would stop doing so.

They had not encountered problems passing through the zone, they said.

'Manage and control'

No-one should be surprised that the US has acted as it has. Washington's first reaction to China's unilateral extension of its airspace was robust.

The idea that Washington was going to start filing flight plans with China before flying over the East China Sea was a non-starter.

But this is more than just a squabble over flight rules.

Washington is watching China's military build-up, its arguments with neighbours, and its "blue-water" ambitions with alarm.

For seven decades the US has been the dominant military power in the region. China has given Washington notice that change is afoot.

Peaceful management of that change is one of the great strategic challenges of the 21st Century.

The unarmed US aircraft took off from Guam on a flight that was part of a regular exercise in the area, US officials said.

A Pentagon official said the US had followed "normal procedures" during the bombers' flight and had not filed flight plans with China.

China says aircraft passing through the zone must obey its rules, including identifying themselves, or face "emergency defensive measures".

However, Wednesday's defence ministry statement after the US flight made no reference to any emergency measures.

"China's air force monitored the entire course [of the US bombers], identified them in a timely way, and ascertained the type of US aircraft," the statement said.

"China will identify all aircraft activity in East China Sea Air Defence Identification Zone", it added. "China has the ability to effectively manage and control the relevant air zone."

The US flight is being seen as a clear signal that the US will not recognise Chinese control over its newly-declared zone, correspondents say.

The flight will also reassure America's allies in the region - Japan in particular - that Washington will stand by its security commitments, reports the BBC's Martin Patience from Beijing.

But, says our correspondent, the big fear is that a misstep on the part of one of the parties could trigger a crisis.

'Provocation'
The tensions came amid other military developments in the region.

On Wednesday, Japan's parliament enacted a bill to establish a national security council, giving the prime minister greater control over defence issues.

Meanwhile, the Chinese navy's Liaoning aircraft carrier set out for a mission in the South China Sea - where China is engaged in territorial disputes with other nations - in what China described as part of the carrier's "scheduled training".

The flight of the US bombers triggered anger among Chinese social media users, with widespread calls for a stronger response from Beijing.

Sina Weibo user Han Qingzi wrote: "The US bomber aircraft provocatively barged into China's air defence zone and flew over China's territorial sea - why did the Chinese side not send fighter jets to intercept or accompany the planes? Has there been a dereliction of duty?"

Microblog user Seeking Treasure in Fire said that China should have sent up fighter planes when it was challenged by the US.

"Whether as a warning, or to coerce the US, at least China needs to display some attitude, otherwise, the air defence zone exists in name only, and becomes the world's laughing stock," they said.

However, one Sina Weibo user appeared to point to domestic politics as a motive. "The air defence zone was issued for our own compatriots in China. Our comrades from outside of China need not be so nervous," they said.
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China got bitch slapped by the USAF. That is why you never make those bombastic claims if you can't back it up. A humiliation for the Chinese. Whoever though of coming out with that declaration ought to be fired by the Beijing bosses.

I think you don't know what real humiliation is.

Russian bombers ignoring superpower US ADIZ is humiliation.

The 'stealth' F-117 getting shot down by superpower Serbia is humiliation.

Chinese submarines popping up right in the middle of a US aircraft carrier is humiliation.

China capturing a US spy plane, taking apart the plane and examining it and returning it in separate parts is humiliation. The US was crying to us to return the plane immediately, we took our time to learn about it and told them to cry harder.

The US military losing the Korean War to the Chinese volunteer army armed with sticks and stones is humiliation. The only time a military superpower has lost a war to a volunteer army.

China defying American commands is one helluva humiliation to a superpower that wants to control every country. We have always given the US a firm middle finger and you can bet your arse we will continue to defy the Americans the stronger we get.

America can't do a damn thing to us, and they know it. That's why they jump like monkeys when an event like this happens.
 
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Lol@ chinese comparing themselves with russians.The russians and americans entering each other is standard practice from cold war days-its not new.Also in these cases its not over disputed territory.
China here tried to upset the status quo by making a unilateral decision and was badly humiliated when others simply ignored them.Its like a overconfindent kid suddenly declared,this is my area -everybody off limits without my permission.And then simply he was ignored because he wasn't paid atention to.
In the end he kept screaming to himself-''this is my area,this is my area''.
US response is like the quote from reservoir dogs movie-
Are u bark all day little doggy or are u going to bite?
 
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Lol@ chinese comparing themselves with russians.The russians and americans entering each other is standard practice from cold war days-its not new.Also in these cases its not over disputed territory.
China here tried to upset the status quo by making a unilateral decision and was badly humiliated when others simply ignored them.Its like a overconfindent kid suddenly declared,this is my area -everybody off limits without my permission.And then simply he was ignored because he wasn't paid atention to.
In the end he kept screaming to himself-''this is my area,this is my area''.
US response is like the quote from reservoir dogs movie-
Are u bark all day little doggy or are u going to bite?
Indian, don't defecate in public thread, you should change your this bad hobby, Get it?!
 
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Lol,what happened to emergency defensive measures?
Even civilian flights now refused this laughing stock zone.
 
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Lol,what happened to emergency defensive measures?
Even civilian flights now refused this laughing stock zone.
Why are you indian so high on these, seems it doesn't matter with you, you indian don't always defecated in public thread, that's bad hobby.
 
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I don't really think that it is the time to make such move.
It has to be done, but not at this moment.
China is not yet ready for this.
 
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Lol,what happened to emergency defensive measures?
Even civilian flights now refused this laughing stock zone.

It's not a no-fly zone...anyone can fly to there if he dare to.

US behaved like a kid and dumped petrol on fire. Be careful, don't be burned up.
 
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It's not a no-fly zone...anyone can fly to there if he dare to.

US behaved like a kid and dumped petrol on fire. Be careful, don't be burned up.

As if copy flankers can take on raptors,the only one who gets burned is china if it loses its head.

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Why are you indian so high on these, seems it doesn't matter with you, you indian don't always defecated in public thread, that's bad hobby.

Nope,i usually stick to military history section and don't bother.But from time to time u have have free time to kill and some hilarious chinese fanboys to needle.So here's to light trolling.:toast_sign:Unfortunately chinese ultra nationalists are very good and very quick to insult other nations but very bad at taking criticism or being exposed like this.Thats why these occasions are hilarious.I think i'm going to head over to CDF for a while and observe the hysterics of the people,some of them were already discussing how the middle kingdom will dicatate the world and they would annex india,siberia and all of south east asia.:haha:
Must be really embarrassing to be caught mid masturbation.
 
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Good Idea, bad thing is communism.
The West won't support any communism again(one China enough), this time u must rely on urself.
well, this time is different. We made the strategic mistake in the 1970s, we had the USSR but not trying to get backing from the international community before we went on to finish Cambodia (the red Khmers) and the likes of (for instance Thailand). If China succeeds in East China Sea, you will target the South China Sea as next. The Pacific and Indian Ocean as third. No need to hide your intentions.

So this time we will secure support from the Western countries. Russia always supports Vietnam, I am sure. Plus Japan is more than happy to see a strong Vietnam. Communism or not.
 
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As if copy flankers can take on raptors,the only one who gets burned is china if it loses its head.

US will never fight with China directly....they are world No.1 and No.2. They need each other.

US will not be unhappy to see low developed Indian (poor) to evoke China and better have a war in their favor.
 
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I'm more interested in if commercial airliners will obey our ADIZ (We all know military planes will not bow to anyone's ADIZ. Russian bombers routinely humiliate the American ADIZ).

The two Japanese airlines has rejected it under pressure from the fascist Abe regime.

I think our next action should be the following:

1) ban any commercial airliner from landing in China that don't obey the law in our ADIZ. China is a massive market for airlines and the one of the fastest growing. So any airline that cannot enter China will lose a lot of business and be at a great disadvantage.

2) we should tell all military and civilian planes to not obey the laws of other countries ADIZ if they are not willing to obey our ADIZ.


We can use tit-for-tat policies to disregard or respect other countries ADIZ depending on how other countries disregard or respect our ADIZ. We can use the leverage of our market size to make sure commercial airliners get on our side.

China should not be intimidated and back down. We must be even more firm but we should do it smartly.

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Why don't you pay all the airlines to not cross your ADIZ instead? bribe them with your hard earned factory money to stop them from crossing?,
Dumb commie logic, do what your CCP has said and that is it will intercept the aircrafts who do not adhere instead of going all around by taking other steps to stop them from doing it.
 
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