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美国的个人入息税是累进计算的 跟国内一样 但我同意 他们的制度比较细 考虑的层面比较多
美国的vat 也不轻 一般为货价的 8% ~ 12% 是吗？

 

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@szft517

美国的个人入息税是累进计算的 跟国内一样 但我同意 他们的制度比较细 考虑的层面比较多
美国的vat 也不轻 一般为货价的 8% ~ 12% 是吗？

确实，也是累进的。他们这个税法搞了好几十年了，从上个世纪初就开始，不断完善，国会不断修订，能够顾及到方方面面。
目前我还没学到公司税，但是就我了解到的是，他们没有VAT，只有sales tax, 大概是5%-10%吧，德州是8.25%左右，价外税。个别州免sales tax...

 

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预算法是需要的
但不能忽视审计是很好的行政手段
在现行的中国制度下，审计更要加大力度

目前，也只能靠审计了，人大什么货色我们都清楚，养老场所罢了。
　　

”国务院权力太大“ 不大不行啊！ 地方政府不听话！

是这样的，有时候，统筹规划是不错的，能够在全国范围内迅速筹集到资金，资源，人力供给发展需要。不过现在情况有所不同了，各地区发展水平不同，比如温州搞金融综合改革试验区，山西只从国家争取到了资源转型综合改革试验区试验区，河南根据地理优势，搞三化协调发展试验区，不牺牲农业发展。所以说呢，各地需求不同，中央不好统一指导的。这些年来，中央地方一直在博弈。虽然出发点都是好的。

所以审计有加大力度. 因为法律漏洞很多， 没来的及堵塞

法律漏洞太多。中国经济总量是很强的，但是需要从法律，制度上巩固这些经济成果，任重道远。

问题是新兴产业不一定有利润 风险大 回报期长
我们其实 有很多产业是自己不争气

这个说的太对了。新兴产业有风险，按照西方经济学理性人的角度，都会选择风险稍微小一点的行业。比如汽车行业，典型。现在从国外进口汽车，要交6个税种，车辆购置税税，关税，乘用车消费税，成品油消费税，车船税，增值税。一个实际价值50万人民币的路虎揽胜5.0，进口过来得172万。

M2 与 热钱流入有关 外资与投行想借利率差混水摸鱼
至于某省的负债率， 是大问题， 入不敷出都是老问题。 短期只能靠发债 开流 节省开支来处理

确实，跟热钱也有很大关系。目前国家搞了几个试点发债省市，不知道怎么样了。

他们的问题恐怕不单单是贪官， 多的很呢

哈哈，算了，不用揭穿他们了，留点面子，毕竟不管我们事。

 

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确实，也是累进的。

他们这个税法搞了好几十年了，从上个世纪初就开始，不断完善，国会不断修订，能够顾及到方方面面。
目前我还没学到公司税，但是就我了解到的是，他们没有VAT，只有sales tax, 大概是5%-10%吧，德州是8.25%左右，价外税。个别州免sales tax...

我们建国不到100年

我也是说 sales tax 但用错了词
因为他们不考虑“进、出项目” 没抵扣

翻查wikipedia有描述：

Illinois 最重 15.5%

Sales taxes in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

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我们建国不到100年

我也是说 sales tax 但用错了词
因为他们不考虑“进、出项目” 没抵扣

翻查wikipedia有描述：

Illinois 最重 15.5%

Sales taxes in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

嗯嗯，是这样的。没想到伊利诺伊这么重。

 

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目前，也只能靠审计了，人大什么货色我们都清楚，养老场所罢了。

我跟您一样， 希望有改进 但不能一蹴即就
　　

是这样的，有时候，统筹规划是不错的，能够在全国范围内迅速筹集到资金，资源，人力供给发展需要。不过现在情况有所不同了，各地区发展水平不同，比如温州搞金融综合改革试验区，山西只从国家争取到了资源转型综合改革试验区试验区，河南根据地理优势，搞三化协调发展试验区，不牺牲农业发展。所以说呢，各地需求不同，中央不好统一指导的。这些年来，中央地方一直在博弈。虽然出发点都是好的。

各省天然资源分配不均是一个难题

法律漏洞太多。中国经济总量是很强的，但是需要从法律，制度上巩固这些经济成果，任重道远。

是的

这个说的太对了。新兴产业有风险，按照西方经济学理性人的角度，都会选择风险稍微小一点的行业。比如汽车行业，典型。现在从国外进口汽车，要交6个税种，车辆购置税税，关税，乘用车消费税，成品油消费税，车船税，增值税。一个实际价值50万人民币的路虎揽胜5.0，进口过来得172万。

我们核心产业搞不好，活该！

确实，跟热钱也有很大关系。目前国家搞了几个试点发债省市，不知道怎么样了。

我想最后还是要中央出手

哈哈，算了，不用揭穿他们了，留点面子，毕竟不管我们事。

对 想起讨厌
但 他们很不给我们面子的

 

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BEIJING - The State Council will eliminate several administrative examination approval items, according to a directive signed by Premier Li Keqiang.

The decision abolishes a regulation concerning production license for coal, as well as amends several items contained in 25 administrative regulations and transfers them to lower levels.

The abolished items also include the registration of entry-exit express enterprises' inspection and quarantine reports and certifications of declaration for inspection and quarantine.

Fifteen administrative regulations have been amended due to the abolishments. Foreign cooperation in the oil, natural gas and coalbed gas sectors no longer needs approval, nor do science and technology awards given by social organizations or the hiring of principals at schools run jointly with overseas partners.

The establishment of tobacco product trading markets and national chain outlets for publications no longer need administrative approval.

The decision also delegates some items from central government departments to provincial-level departments, including exports of animals used for scientific experimentation and the registration of resident representatives of foreign companies.

The abolishment and decentralization of administrative examination and approval items are part of efforts to reduce political power in China's market economy.

The premier said in May that the focus of government work should be shifted to creating a favorable environment for development, providing quality public services and maintaining social equity and justice.

 

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China's first inter-city express train starts test runs

Last Updated: 2013-08-01

Xinhua

QINGDAO - China's first inter-city express train started its daily test runs on Thursday in the southwestern province of Sichuan before it is put to use in Guangdong Province, its manufacturer said.

The CRH6A train will have a daily 2,000-km test run on the rails from Chengdu, provincial capital of Sichuan, to Dujiangyan City and Dazhou City, respectively, according to Sifang Locomotive and Rolling Stock Co., Ltd under China South Locomotive and Rolling Stock (CSR). Sifang Locomotive and Rolling Stock Co. is based in Qingdao, east China's Shandong Province.

The operation assessment period takes about six months and the train will run a total of 300,000 km. Passengers will be on the train in the final phase of testing.

The express train is designed to travel at 200 km per hour. Another model, the CRH6F, with a designed speed of 160 km per hour, has also been completed and will start trial runs soon.

The intercity express trains target medium- and short-distance trips between cities. Compared with high-speed bullet trains, the intercity express trains, like subway trains, can stop at many stations and start and stop at fast speeds.

The CRH6A train has a maximum capacity of 1,488 passengers. It will be first put into use on the rail linking the cities of Guangzhou, Dongguan and Shenzhen in Guangdong.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2013-08/01/content_16863548.htm

 

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You have no idea about HP computers. Couple years ago, I wanted to buy a laptop, so I went to a Fry's electronic store, I almost chose an HP laptop because it is relative cheap, but when I saw a pile of refurbished HP computers rest on the floor, I changed my mind, instead, I bought a lenovo laptop because it was salesman's strong recommendation. Today, I still love it.

I am surprised (not anti-chinese here). I think lenovo is a f**kall company with f**kall products (I am NOT anti-chinese, just don't like lenovo. Before the trolls jump over me). I have always owned an HP and will continue to own one.

 

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China's non-manufacturing PMI rises

By IANS | 3 Aug, 2013, 03.52PM IST

BEIJING: The purchasing managers index (PMI) for China's non-manufacturing sector stood at 54.1 percent in July, up from 53.9 percent for June, according to official data released Saturday.

A PMI reading above 50 percent indicates expansion, while a reading below 50 percent indicates contraction, according to the National Bureau of Statistics and the China Federation of Logistics and Purchasing (CFLP).

The improving non-manufacturing figure is in line with China's manufacturing PMI, which also rose in July to 50.3 percent from 50.1 percent in June, Xinhua reported.

Cai Jin, vice chairman of the CFLP, said the slight increase indicated a good start for China's economy in the second half of the year.

"Although challenges remain, China's economy has the foundations for steady growth," Cai said.

China's non-manufacturing PMI is based on a survey of about 1,200 companies in 27 industries.

China's non-manufacturing PMI rises - The Economic Times

 

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China's non-manufacturing PMI rebounds to 54.1 pct in July

English.news.cn 2013-08-03 16:13:23

BEIJING, Aug. 3 (Xinhua) -- The purchasing managers index (PMI) for China's non-manufacturing sector rebounded after falling for three consecutive months, according to official data released on Saturday.

The non-manufacturing PMI stood at 54.1 percent in July, up from 53.9 percent for June, according to the National Bureau of Statistics and the China Federation of Logistics and Purchasing (CFLP).

A PMI reading above 50 percent indicates expansion, while a reading below 50 percent indicates contraction.

The improving non-manufacturing figure is in line with China's manufacturing PMI, which also rose in July to 50.3 percent from 50.1 percent in June, according to previously released figures.

Cai Jin, vice chairman of the CFLP, said the slight increase indicated a good start for China's economy in the second half of the year.

"Although challenges remain, China's economy has the foundations for steady growth," Cai said.

China's economy has been stuck in a protracted weak recovery, easing to 7.5-percent growth in the second quarter from 7.7 percent in the first three months and 7.9 percent in the final quarter of 2012. Worries are growing that the prolonged slowdown could weigh on the global economy.

The CFLP said China's service sector is becoming increasingly active, giving a boost to the economy.

In the service sector, the sub-indices for business activity and new orders both rose for two consecutive months, up to 53.0 percent and 50.0 percent, respectively. The sub-index for employment gained three percentage points to 53 percent.

The CFLP said information-related consumption increased rapidly during the period. New types of businesses appearing in the service sector will push economic growth and restructuring in the second half, it said.

Construction activity also remained at a high level in July, according to the CFLP, with the sub-index for business activity staying above 58 percent.

Deepening industrialization and urbanization, a government plan to renovate run-down urban areas and increased investment in the railway sector mean the construction sector will maintain active in the second half, the CFLP said.

The CFLP said it is worth noting that small businesses in the non-manufacturing sector saw their performance improve in July.

Their sub-indices for business activity and new orders both ended two consecutive monthly decreases and rebounded, although they still remained below 50 percent.

The CFLP said it expects that more supportive measures, like the tax cuts recently implemented by the government, will be introduced in the second half to aid small businesses.

The CFLP warned of a trend of rising costs in the non-manufacturing sector. The sub-index for intermediate input prices rose 3.2 percentage points over June to 58.2 percent in July.

China's non-manufacturing PMI is based on a survey of about 1,200 companies in 27 industries.

China's non-manufacturing PMI rebounds to 54.1 pct in July - Xinhua | English.news.cn

 

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August 4, 2013: China's Women Volleyball Team under Coach 郎平 Long Ping are the winners of Pool D of 2013 World Grand Prix Macao stop by beating the Nethelands 3-1. Team China have won all three matches having victories over Bulgaria and Cuba on 3-0 a piece.

中国队队长张磊在颁奖台上高举冠军奖杯。
Captain Zhang Lei proudly lifting up the Champions' Trophy

Wang Yimei receiving the award for Most Favourable Players of the Fans

Coach Lang Ping

Photo credits: sports.cn

Credit: Tencent sports and sportsphoto.cn

Above photo credits: sports.cn


Zhu Ting lifts China to a 3-1 win over the Netherlands | FIVB - Press release

Credit: sports.cn
朱婷 Ting was unstoppable on the attack as she scored 32 points against the Netherlands

Macau, China, August 4, 2013 - China kept a clean match record as they sealed a 3-1 win (26-24, 19-25, 25-17, 25-17) over the Netherlands in Pool D of the FIVB Volleyball World Grand Prix on Sunday.

China's Zhu Ting led all scorers with 32 points while Anne Buijs led the Dutch scorers with 17 points.

The first set was an even battle as both sides traded points early on. China and the Netherlands impressively started, not allowing each other get some breathing space until late in the set. Zhu and Wang Yimei's hammering spikes lifted China to come from behind the Dutch lead and eventually moved past the thrilling deuce point 26-24.

In the second set, another thrilling encounter emerged as both sides fought for lead changes. Netherlands reached the second technical timeout with a very slim one-point margin. Netherlands eventually managed to pull away and ended the set from a sharp spike by Judith Pietersen 25-19.

China regained control of the third set on Zhu's consistent attacking performance and Wang's powerfule serves that helped China to establish a 21-10 lead. Netherlands tried to get back in the match but China reached the final point in due course at 25-17.

China came out storming in the fourth set, sending a barrage of attacks on the Dutch side that allowed them to take an easy lead. China looked determined to end the match with a 20-11 lead but Dutch player Celeste Plak, who came off the bench, scored 6 points to cut that gap.

Coach Lang Ping allowed her new players to come in but the Dutch team could not turn the momentum to their favour as China ended the fourth set 25-17.

 

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Meanwhile:

China claim fourth historic gold at Girls' U18 World Championship


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Chinese Girls' Celebrate the FIVB Girls' U18 World championship

The girls cheer an dance in jubilation after the win over Team USA

USA win a point

Xinyue Yuan from China cheers with her team-mates

China´s Xinyue Yuan attacks




Nakhon Ratchasima, Thailand, August 4, 2013 – China captured their fourth gold medal at the FIVB Girls' U18 World championship with a straight sets win over mighty USA (25-16, 25-21, 25-23) in the final match at both Chatchai hall in Nakhon Ratshasima on Sunday.

It was a record fourth gold medal for China in their ninth participation at this age category, one more title than Brazil has won, added to their previous wins in 2001, 2003 and 2007 and the fifth overall medal. on the other hand the silver medal for USA is the best ever performance so far in 8 participations, the best before was the fourth position in 2003 and 2005.

Brazil maintained their position on the podium by gaining the bronze medal with a straight sets victory over the competition dark horses, Peru 3-0 (25-29, 25-12, 25-23, 25-12) in the third place match.

Brazil, the only team to participate in every edition of the World Championship U18 so far, got their second bronze medal in their history after 2003 edition to be added to 3 more gold in 1997, 2005 and 2009 and 4 silver medals in 1989, 1991, 1999 and 2001.

Japan finished 5th following a thrilling five setter against Serbia and Poland claimed the 7th with a win against Dominican Republic.

After the final, the Thai Minister of sport Mr Somporn Chaibabangyang, along with the FIVB Control Committee headed by Mr Theofanis Tsiokris honoured the best players with their trophies then the medallists China, USA and Brazil.

Gold Medal match
China v USA 3-0 (25-16, 25-21, 25-23)

China won the gold medal at the Girls' Under-18 World Championship beating USA in straight sets (25-16, 25-21, 25-23) in 68 minutes at Chatchi Hall in Nakhon Ratchasima.

Xinyue Yuan scored 16 points as her team’s best scorer, followed by Yunlu Wang with 14.

China surprisingly put early and consistent pressure on the Americans, who struggled to get back into the match. China sent a warning to the Americans at the start of the match through their quick attacks using centers Xinyue Yuan and Hu Mingyuan. They blocked well and sent their attacks away from the USA blockers to win the first set by a wide margin, 25-16.

The Chinese players were focused at the start of the second set, while the U.S. had trouble with their defence and couldn't apply their attacking strategy. China took the lead, but USA came back when setter Jordyn Poulter did some good work in setting for her teammates. China’s coach fielded substitute center Yuanyuan Wang as they took the second set 25-21.

The Americans committed a number of errors in reception and attacks in the third set although their spikers did managed some success. But the Chinese were serving very well and were able to maintain their pressure and the lead throughout the set to 20-15. USA tried to save the match, but with a quick attack from Xinyue Yuan the job was completed and China claimed the gold medal.

Bronze Medal match
Brazil v Peru 3-0 (25-29, 25-12, 25-23, 25-12)

Brazil gained their ninth medal in their 13 participations at Girls' U18 World Championship with a victory in the bronze medal match in straight sets (25-29, 25-12, 25-23, 25-12) against Peru in the third place match at Chatchi Hall.

Peru got their best result in 8 participations equivalent to their same position 20 years ago.

Brazil's center Gabriela Silva was the match star with her competition best blocking performance of 9 killing blocks beside her spiking from the center of the net to come as match scorer with 13 points. Simply Gaby was the secret to stop the efficient Peruvian opposite attacker Angela Leyva who scored her less record of only 12 points during the match although she kept as her team top scorer in that match.

Brazil did a good scouting for their opponent and succeeded to make a solid barrier against them through the tight blocking at the wings of the net as well as the tight backline defence led by the libero Lais Vasques who did well in defence.

Peru tried to enter the match only in the second set when they started to use the combinations the deceive Brazil block and succeeded to come near all through but Brazil worked well with the outside hitters to win the set.

Peru players were exhausted after they played 5 sets the night before against China in the semifinal, thus they couldn't upset Brazil power to lose the match in straight sets.

Match for the 5th place
Japan v Serbia 3-2 (14-25, 23-25, 25-20, 25-15, 15-13)

Japan ended their FIVB Girls' Youth World Championship journey with 5th position leaving Serbia at the 6th position after their epic win 3-2 (14-25, 23-25, 25-20, 25-15, 15-13) at Chatchai Hall.

This is the seventh best outcome for Japan who won the title twice in their history out of 11 participations. It was the same position achieved twice in 2001 and 2009. For the Serbians it is the worst rank in their overall four participations.

With a lot of motivations and victory spirit Japan succeeded to rebound from two sets behind to win the third and fourth sets and gain the match after a thriller tiebreak.

Effiecent spiker Mizuki Yanagita played her best and was the main factor of victory not only with her 28 points scored as a match scorer, but also for the passion she gave to her colleague specially in the tiebreak. She was followed by Kaori Mabashi who scored 18 points.In the Serbian side, the usual scoring machine Tijana Boskovi was again her team scorer with 19 points followed by Sara Lozo 16.

Match for the 7th place
Poland v Dominican Republic 3-1 (25-11, 19, 25, 25-16, 25-14)

Poland ended their FIVB Girls' Youth World Championship campaign in the optimum performance as they thrashed Dominican Republic 3-1 (25-11, 19, 25, 25-16, 25-14) in the 7th and 8th positions match at Chatchai Hall.

Poland improved all their errors in the last matches and played a wonderful game to gain the 7th position, three places back to their fourth position in Turkey 2011. Dominican Republic finished in the 8th position making their best performance like in 2001 and 2007.

Poland's attackers Malwina Smarzek and Malgorzata Smieszek were the key factor behind the victory with their steady performance throughout the match. The first was the match scorer with 17 points all from killing hits and the second had a tally of 16 points including 2 blocks and three ace services. Dominican's opposite Galia Gonzalez led her team scorers by 14 points, while out of from Elizabeth Martinez who is one of the competition scorers gave a much less outcome, scoring only 8 points.

Match for the 9th place
Turkey v Italy 3-2 (25-22, 25-21, 20-25, 18-25, 15-12)

Devastating Turkey pulled off a hard-fought five-set win 25-22 25-21 20-25 18-25 15-12 over a fired-up Italy to finish ninth position at Liptapanlop Hall.

Turkey, which made history to be crowned world champions in the 2011 edition on home soil following a stunning win over China in the final showdown, started an attack game right from the opening whistle in the tough match against the Italians.

Pelin Aroguz led Turkey with 18 points, while Laura Grigolo scored a match-high 15 points for Italy.

Match for the 11th place
Chinese Taipei v Greece 3-1 (25-23, 25-18, 14-25, 25-22)

Mall and agile Chinese Taipei defied the odds to topple much stronger Greece in a dramatic four-set match (25-23, 25-18, 14-25, 25-22) to finish in 11th place.

Tseng Wan Ling top-scored with 18 points for Chinese Taipei, 16 of them from her devastating attacks. Anthi Vasilantonaki led Greece with 28 points, including 21 kills from 60 attempts.

With the win, Chinese Taipei jumped for joy as they finished in 11th place, while Greece had to be content with 12th place.

Match for the 13th place
Slovenia v Puerto Rico 3-1 (25-17, 27-25, 24-26, 26-24)

Debutantes Slovenia struggled hard to beat spirited Puerto Rico in closely-contested four sets 25-17, 27-25, 24-26, 26-24 to return with the 13th position.

Ela Pintar led Slovenia with 16 points, with Patricia Montero emerging as the top scorer for Puerto Rico with 19 points, all of them through her exceptional spikes.

Match for the 15th place
Egypt v Thailand 3-2 (20-25 25-21 25-20 18-25 15-8)

Determined Egypt avenged their group-stage loss to Thailand to overpower the hosts in grueling hard-fought five sets 20-25 25-21 25-20 18-25 15-8 to finish the well-earned 15th place. in the Girls’ U18 World Championship at the Liptapanlop Hall on Sunday.

Following the loss, Thailand came in a disappointing 16th place in this World Championship, a far cry from the previous episode in Turkey two years ago when they outclassed less-experienced Egypt in the 13th-14th playoff.

Egypt’s Malak Badawy scored a match-high 20 points, while Thailand’s majority points came from Jiraporn Chaymon, who collected 26 points including 22 kills from 79 attempts.

Classification round 17-20 (Round Robin)
17th: Argentina
18th: Mexico
19th: Tunisia
20th: Algeria

Final Results "Day 9" click the 1 China[/COLOR][/B]

2 USA

3 Brazil

4 Peru

5 Japan

6 Serbia

7 Poland

8 Dominican Republic

9 Turkey

10 Italy

11 Chinese Taipei

12 Greece

13 Slovenia

14 Puerto Rico

15 Egypt

16 Thailand

17 Argentina

18 Mexico

19 Tunisia

20 Algeria




Best players


MVP: Xinyue Yuan (China)

Best team of the competition:

Best setter: Jordyn Poulter (USA)

Best opposite: Angela Leyva (Peru)

Best outside hitters: Elizabeth Martinez (Dominican Republic) and Yunlu Wang (China)

Best middle blockers: Xinyue Yuan (China) and Audriana Fitzmorris (USA)

Best libero: Minori Wada (Japan)


Women’s U20 World Championship honour[/COLOR]

2013 China

2011 Turkey

2009 Brazil

2007 China

2005 Brazil

2003 China

2001 China

1999 Japan

1997 Brazil

1995 Japan

1993: Russia

1991: Korea

1989: USSR

2013 Girls'U18 World Championship Performances - for more details of, click the above link

 

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BEIJING: Over three million graduates are struggling to find jobs this year in China as the world's second largest economy is facing a slowdown due to fall in exports and a sluggish domestic demand.

With nearly 7 million graduates this year, adding on the unemployed students from previous years, the number of graduates struggling to find jobs before leaving school is estimated to have reached over 3 million, Wang Yujun, from the ministry of human resources and social security said.

He gave the figures while releasing the "2012 China Social Security Reform and Development Report", state-run China Radio International reported.

As a result of growing unemployment, the report said, the delayed retirement is not a viable option at present, as the current conditions are insufficient.

According to recent reports, the ruling Communist Party of China (CPC) regards unemployment as the potential threat for social stability and the top leadership wants to deepen the economic reforms to spur growth.

The job market is unable to fulfil the demands of job hunters with only 30 per cent of new job vacancies coming from the retired, Prof Deng Dasong of Wuhan University said.

Also in view of the demographic crisis due to an ageing population, China is reportedly considering to increase the retirement age from 60 to 65 to keep more people employed.

Observers say that the growing numbers of unemployed may have an adverse impact on such a move.

Unemployment rising in China amid slowdown - The Times of India

 

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Unemployment rising in China amid slowdown - The Times of India

World wide problems:

Global Youth Unemployment Beyond 2014 - Business Insider

Indian graduates facing increasing difficulty to find jobs