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China delivers third maritime patrol ship to Pakistan

doesnt work that way
building here willcost 2x as buying off shelf

why?
e.g
you even dont have a steel mills , you need start with raw material and build up

why we have KSEW if we cant produce basic thing such as steel for ship building?

Shouldnt we first master art of steel making before opening a facility for building?
 
why we have KSEW if we cant produce basic thing such as steel for ship building?

Shouldnt we first master art of steel making before opening a facility for building?
KSEW has been purposely destroyed! it has been reported how it was sabotaged in zaleeldari years. Now only the lohar tubbars steel mills work effectively but national steel mill has been ruined.
 
KSEW has been purposely destroyed! it has been reported how it was sabotaged in zaleeldari years. Now only the lohar tubbars steel mills work effectively but national steel mill has been ruined.

its not only KSEW, Zaleeldari fvcked up everything possible..

Ok leave PSM aside, we know how our govt sector operate, but what about our smart as* private sector steel producers? Cant they produce cost effective for our strategic needs and commercial ship building?
 
its not only KSEW, Zaleeldari fvcked up everything possible..

Ok leave PSM aside, we know how our govt sector operate, but what about our smart as* private sector steel producers? Cant they produce cost effective steel for our KSEW for strategic needs?
Unless somehow we can get KSEW restarted which is almost impossible! Then the necessary amount of quality steel needed is not being produced in Pakistan. Other steel mills make material for construction even that is not high standard.
 
Unless somehow we can get KSEW restarted which is almost impossible! Then the necessary amount of quality steel needed is not being produced in Pakistan. Other steel mills make material for construction even that is not high standard.

so we are still in stone age as far as ship building is concern?
 
so we are still in stone age as far as ship building is concern?
Sadly yes. The people who destroyed KSEW and other national institutions need the lynch mob! Not that poor Student.
 
good effort by chinese friends
PN need to add some
Unmanned surface vehicle
from chinese
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HSIB

The High Speed Intercept Boat is a very fast (80 knots!) USV still being tested by the PLAN, and already offered for export. Currently capable of being armed with machine guns, its arsenal will likely expand once it enters service

 
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Why didn't they build them locally?

One 600t is being built in KSEW. Steel was cut back in May 2016. Don't know about 1500t.

http://thediplomat.com/2016/05/pakistan-begins-construction-of-600-ton-maritime-patrol-vessel/

These OPV's (Offshore patrol vessel class - 1500t) and IPV's (Inshore patrol vessel class - 600t) should be easily buildable at KSEW. There may be other factors (other than technical) - which is preventing all of them from being built locally.

China is trusted supplier but it would be nice if such things come with TOT so we dont have to rely on anyone in future and can earn for ourselves.

ToT was already performed (link above).

doesnt work that way
building here willcost 2x as buying off shelf

why?
e.g
you even dont have a steel mills , you need start with raw material and build up

The American Bureau of Shipping specified specialized steel plate standards a long time ago. Only Japan, China and several other larger steel producing countries produce these specialized plates. Pakistan (like other smaller countries) cannot produce them as economically - it is better to import small amounts, like we did for our two Durgam Class 650 ton ASW corvette builds at Khulna Shipyard last year (two builds completed - two more to be built). KSY was built in the late 1950's along with KSEW in the early 1950s as PIDC projects. The founders of Pakistan had good infrastructure vision - but our executions in both Bangladesh and Pakistan have been less than optimal over the years.

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Durgam class anti-submarine warfare corvette
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Unless somehow we can get KSEW restarted which is almost impossible! Then the necessary amount of quality steel needed is not being produced in Pakistan. Other steel mills make material for construction even that is not high standard.

Like I said above - the small amount of special ship-building plate needed is better imported from China which is cheap. Private yards are plentiful in Bangladesh (and their labor rates are half of Pakistan), so they can build naval builds up to say 1500 tons for Pakistan. They already built a number of small craft for Karachi port authority.

1 Vessel of 600 ton and 1 vessel of 1500 ton are under construction in Karachi. While 3 vessels of 600 ton and 1 vessel of 1500 ton is to be delivered by China.

Exactly - as evidenced by the link I posted above. I don't know if steel was cut (production commenced) for the 1500t vessel yet.
 
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I like the ship but I don't like the color scheme the strange black color at rear got to go need to be repainted all white
 
Which
the post refers a missile system ..
Which type of missile system ship have ?
Most like a handheld or manually aimed but pedestal mounted MANPADS e.g. Anza Mk2 or Mk3 (= Chinese QW-1 , QW-2)

Hingol-Class maritime patrol vessels (MPVs) are a class of four ships being built by a partnership between China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC) and Karachi Shipyard & Engineering Works (KS&EW) for the Pakistan Maritime Security Agency (PMSA).

The vessels are intended to perform a number of missions, including patrolling, policing, search-and-rescue, maritime security, surveillance, intelligence gathering, pollution control and fishery protection in Pakistan's exclusive economic zone (EEZ). In addition, the vessels can be used for disaster management and training operations.

Construction details of the 600t MPVs
The Pakistani Government approved the procurement of four 600t maritime patrol ships for the PSMA in December 2014. In June 2015, the Pakistani Ministry of Defence awarded a contract to China Shipbuilding Trading Company (CSTC), a trading arm of CSSC, to build four 600t vessels under a technology transfer agreement with KS&EW.

The four vessels are named after Baluchistan rivers, namely Hingol, Basol, Dasht, and Zhob.

Construction on the first ship in the class began in November 2015 and the vessel was delivered to Pakistan in December 2016. The vessel was commissioned into the PMSA at Gwadar Port, Pakistan, in January 2017.

The third and fourth vessels are currently under construction with deliveries scheduled to be completed by April 2018.

Hingol Class design and features
The Hingol Class maritime security vessel's hull is fabricated using steel, while its superstructure is made of aluminium. The vessel has a length of 68m, a beam of 8.7m and a displacement of 600t.

The ship is controlled by the crew onboard from the wheel house, which is provided with navigational aids, wireless communication, damage control and monitoring system, as well as an alarm system.

It carries two 6.5m-long rigid-hulled inflatable boats (RHIBs), capable of travelling at speeds of approximately 40k, towards the stern of the main deck. Launched or recovered using electric hydraulic crane, the RHIBs can be used for patrol and troops transportation.

"The four vessels are named after Baluchistan rivers, namely Hingol, Basol, Dasht, and Zhob."
Life-saving equipment carried by the Hingol Class includes four inflatable life rafts, life buoys, life jackets, and rescue equipment.

The onboard anchors, towing and mooring systems deliver load handling capabilities.

Armament
The main deck is equipped with one single-barrelled 30mm semi-automatic naval gun to defend the maritime patrol ship from inshore attack craft.

A 12.7mm machine gun is mounted on port and starboard sides of the ship for use in patrol and anti-piracy missions.

The ship is provided with a smoke locker, a missile system and a weapons storage unit, which is capable of holding two light machine guns, 18 pistols and 20 assault rifles.

Navigation and communication systems
Safe vessel navigation is provided by the onboard navigation systems, which include GPS navigation receiver, automatic identification system (AIS), gyrocompass, magnetic compass, GPS navigation receiver, electromagnetic log, navigation radar, Navtex, and autopilot.

External and internal communication sub-systems incorporated in the vessel provide reliable communication between the vessel and shore command base, as well as with other ships.

Propulsion
The Hingol Class is powered by four 16-cylinder MTU 16V 4000M73L heavy-duty, medium-speed diesel engines, each generating an output power of 2,880kW at 2,050rpm.

Each engine is connected to a reduction gearbox via flexible shaft coupling. Power for the electrical systems aboard the craft is generated by two generator sets.

Four sets of propulsion shafting are installed to transmit drive from the gearbox to the propeller.

Hingol Class maritime patrol vessels performance
The maritime security vessel offers a maximum speed of 27k and a cruising speed of 15k. It can travel to a distance of up to 2,600nm at speeds between 15k and 18k. It can reach up to 650nm in sea state 3 conditions at its top speed. The vessel has the ability to endure for up to 15 days.
Content from http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/hingol-class-maritime-patrol-vessels

Earlier two 600-ton maritime patrol vessels: Hingol (PMSS1070) and Basol (PMSS1071)
http://asianewsa.blogspot.nl/2016/12/pakistan-maritime-security-agency-pmsas.html

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Most like a handheld or manually aimed but pedestal mounted MANPADS e.g. Anza Mk2 or Mk3 (= Chinese QW-1 , QW-2)


Content from http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/hingol-class-maritime-patrol-vessels

Earlier two 600-ton maritime patrol vessels: Hingol (PMSS1070) and Basol (PMSS1071)
http://asianewsa.blogspot.nl/2016/12/pakistan-maritime-security-agency-pmsas.html

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Thanks, so at max they can try to take on some chopper otherwise they are really jsut patrol boats no other expectation from them even at wartime ...
 
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