China cuts Iran oil purchases ahead of US sanctions

seesonic · Nov 4, 2018

LASER said:

Rhetoric

PeaceGen · Nov 4, 2018

Hamartia Antidote said:
Hey @peacefan don't you agree the Chinese on this forum are particularly obnoxious compared to those of other countries on here. They like to dish it out all day but can’t take it. The sad thing is they are oblivious to it.

fact is, we've had :
- muslims attacking western reputation on a dialy basis on this forum, whom got the same explanations i recently gave the Chinese who tried that nasty lose-lose strategy recently simply because it's something *they* hadn't tried yet..
- flocks of Indians attacking Pakistani reputation equally illigitimately, which i also helped put a verbal end to.

fact is, groups from around the world are going to try this strategy on some point on a forum like this (juicy target because of it's audience), simply because they haven't seen others fail using this strategy yet, and because they haven't tried it themselves yet.

to call all Chinese on this forum obnoxious is counter-productive. Folks like Hainan and other Chinese who frequent this forum, post about positive news from China, but have stopped, thankfully, their reputation attacks on the west on this forum.

but occasionally you'll have a new Chinese poster who simply hasn't read yet how that verbal attack strategy toolkit doesn't work at all in the real world, and is quickly defeatable.

it does require the defenders to recognize that not even all Chinese or whomever else may be into these strategies at some point on a forum, can be treated as "all hostile". that increases tension, while seperating chaff from wheat and educating the chaff while proving to the wheat that it's the chaff who started it (with quotes of their previous posts, so make bookmarks occasionally), that has proven to end such reputation attacks by entire groups (usually of no more than 3 or 4 reputation attackers at a time by the way), and has proven to keep such attacks away from not just 1 sub-forum on a site like this, but pretty much the entire site.

that education is by the way very simple : "you hit me or my friends, i'm going to hit you back eventually".
in the real world, actual aggressive defensive moves follow much quicker to a real challenge of course, but on forums having more patience, much more patience, is one of the major factors to win such disputes.

you need to be able to let go of the forum and the hatred and negativity on it that surfaces sometimes,
while simply realizing that that enables you to counter-punch with black pages from the offender's country's history (if they do that to your country, like some Chinese did on this forum 1 to 2 months ago),
at a time of your choosing. Anyone following the discussion should see you win each and every argument you do respond to, and feel free to ignore the really stupid verbal attacks. This is not kindergarten after all.

good luck bro

LeGenD · Nov 4, 2018

Anybody having dreams about any country standing up to US in regards to Iranian sanctions, should read this: https://www.france24.com/en/2018110...import-eight-countries-excempted-donald-trump

US have granted temporary waivers to 8 countries to continue to import oil from Iran after November 5, 2018 but all have to cut down their imports over time [no ifs and buts]. China also requested the waiver and got it, but it is also in search for alternatives.

Not sure why some members are trying to argue otherwise.

@war&peace

Iran in big trouble, I'm afraid. I had numerous discussions with Iranian members from time to time and warned them that US will come after Iran after it is done with Iraq unless Iranian leadership drop its "militia-gardi." Numerous times Iranian members acted too arrogant and failed to understand the bigger picture.

Those who fail to understand the bigger picture, who fail to prioritize well-being of their citizens over ill-advised geopolitical ambitions and/or learn from their mistakes, will be ruins. This is the way of this unforgiving world. Sad.

Tauren Paladin · Nov 4, 2018

This fakenews. China is still purchasing Iranian oil despite the sanctions. American media always think they're winning and jump to conclusions...

war&peace · Nov 5, 2018

Tauren Paladin said:
This fakenews. China is still purchasing Iranian oil despite the sanctions. American media always think they're winning and jump to conclusions...

LeGenD said:
Anybody having dreams about any country standing up to US in regards to Iranian sanctions, should read this: https://www.france24.com/en/2018110...import-eight-countries-excempted-donald-trump

US have granted temporary waivers to 8 countries to continue to import oil from Iran after November 5, 2018 but all have to cut down their imports over time [no ifs and buts]. China also requested the waiver and got it, but it is also in search for alternatives.

Not sure why some members are trying to argue otherwise.

@war&peace

Iran in big trouble, I'm afraid. I had numerous discussions with Iranian members from time to time and warned them that US will come after Iran after it is done with Iraq unless Iranian leadership drop its "militia-gardi." Numerous times Iranian members acted too arrogant and failed to understand the bigger picture.

Those who fail to understand the bigger picture, who fail to prioritize well-being of their citizens over ill-advised geopolitical ambitions and/or learn from their mistakes, will be ruins. This is the way of this unforgiving world. Sad.

bhai.. tavzunn ma hakimat ha...

zectech · Nov 5, 2018

China lets the Washington criminals run the UN Security Council and gives the green light to the zionist agenda.

What made you think the Chinese would act differently now, especially when there is a trade war with China trying to make China fall in line with the zionists. Trouble is for China, they keep betraying any friends and all friends to sanctions and illegal wars, and China will find herself surrounded by more and more Washington bases. China would be forced to try the pie and then be like the Washington criminals invading and murdering for zionism and slavery.

If I were the Chinese, I would spend 100 million on a secret group to study the best way to prepare China for a closed economy in 25 years, an economy that would feed all the Chinese and employ 1 billion Chinese.

Or China can continue to be blackmailed and threatened for decades to come until they are Washington.

BTW aren't sanctions against Iranian oil against the JCPOA? Against the UN resolutions?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nctions-un-security-council-international-law

seesonic · Nov 6, 2018

peacefan said:
fact is, we've had :
- muslims attacking western reputation on a dialy basis on this forum, whom got the same explanations i recently gave the Chinese who tried that nasty lose-lose strategy recently simply because it's something *they* hadn't tried yet..
- flocks of Indians attacking Pakistani reputation equally illigitimately, which i also helped put a verbal end to.

fact is, groups from around the world are going to try this strategy on some point on a forum like this (juicy target because of it's audience), simply because they haven't seen others fail using this strategy yet, and because they haven't tried it themselves yet.

to call all Chinese on this forum obnoxious is counter-productive. Folks like Hainan and other Chinese who frequent this forum, post about positive news from China, but have stopped, thankfully, their reputation attacks on the west on this forum.

but occasionally you'll have a new Chinese poster who simply hasn't read yet how that verbal attack strategy toolkit doesn't work at all in the real world, and is quickly defeatable.

it does require the defenders to recognize that not even all Chinese or whomever else may be into these strategies at some point on a forum, can be treated as "all hostile". that increases tension, while seperating chaff from wheat and educating the chaff while proving to the wheat that it's the chaff who started it (with quotes of their previous posts, so make bookmarks occasionally), that has proven to end such reputation attacks by entire groups (usually of no more than 3 or 4 reputation attackers at a time by the way), and has proven to keep such attacks away from not just 1 sub-forum on a site like this, but pretty much the entire site.

that education is by the way very simple : "you hit me or my friends, i'm going to hit you back eventually".
in the real world, actual aggressive defensive moves follow much quicker to a real challenge of course, but on forums having more patience, much more patience, is one of the major factors to win such disputes.

you need to be able to let go of the forum and the hatred and negativity on it that surfaces sometimes,
while simply realizing that that enables you to counter-punch with black pages from the offender's country's history (if they do that to your country, like some Chinese did on this forum 1 to 2 months ago),
at a time of your choosing. Anyone following the discussion should see you win each and every argument you do respond to, and feel free to ignore the really stupid verbal attacks. This is not kindergarten after all.

good luck bro

jhungary · Nov 9, 2018

seesonic said:

I am not the one that said "Stop Derailing the Thread" when I responded to your question.

Read this

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/huaw...hy-system-and-4000-mah-battery.550629/page-12

To this day, I still have not hear the response from that. So….

Well, Chicken go Chook

LOL.

seesonic · Nov 10, 2018

jhungary said:
I am not the one that said "Stop Derailing the Thread" when I responded to your question.

Read this

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/huaw...hy-system-and-4000-mah-battery.550629/page-12

To this day, I still have not hear the response from that. So….

Well, Chicken go Chook LOL.

Still no respond since July? :omghaha:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/nvid...st-single-computer-humanity-has-built.561198/

jhungary · Nov 11, 2018

seesonic said:
Still no respond since July?

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/nvid...st-single-computer-humanity-has-built.561198/