China crackdown slows Tibet refugee crossings to freedom in India

[GeHAC]

In spite of the super awesome lifestyle in China, if these people are moving to India - then you would be better off looking at your own internal situation rather than trying to advice your neighbours.

Your press is not free, so it is impossible to judge the situation from any other angle than what your government propaganda reveals.

Of course，CCP is a much more pragmatic mature capalist authority，they care more about internal issues.I didn't see Chinese government ever blame on your human right condition in the international arena.So,keep your words,don't try to advice your neighbours.Your are not the leader of the third world anymore.
You said that "Your press is not free, so it is impossible to judge the situation from any other angle than what your government propaganda reveals",this just shows how lazy you guys are.Under the so called "press freedom",you tend to make your judgement on the basis of main stream propaganda without a independence information analysis.I posted that "its not difficult to get a free ride in Tibet" means I believe what I see for myself rather than refer to propaganda lazily.
Actually,in China,its hard to say what is the official calibar on some sensitive internal issues.It's quite interesting to see official media attacking on each other because CCP is not "a plate of steel".Under this unique consensus ecology,most Chinese adult netizen have formed a habit of individually analising.And that's why some foreign website translating forums becoming so popular in China.You can say it is the counter-effect of censorship.I dont want to comment on the advantages and disadvantages of this policy but it does create a really diverse Chinese netizen community.Chinese Internet is much more freedom and diverse than you think.

 

[MarkovChain]

Of course，CCP is a much more pragmatic mature capalist authority，they care more about internal issues.I didn't see Chinese government ever blame on your human right condition in the international arena.So,keep your words,don't try to advice your neighbours.Your are not the leader of the third world anymore.

I think I made my stance clear here:
China crackdown slows Tibet refugee crossings to freedom in India | Page 2

It was you who went ahead and tried advising India magnanimously. Gracious.

 

[Kolaps]

Tibetan opinions, who escape to Dharmasala:


"When I was in China, friends told me Dharamsala was a paradise, you didn't even need money," said Golma, 39, who uses one name. She arrived here several years ago with her husband and young daughter.

"But life isn't easy, and this place is quite dirty," she said, pointing to an open sewer strewn with plastic bags, animal waste and rotting vegetables. "I couldn't believe the Dalai Lama would live in such a messy place."

In their headlong rush for greener pastures, some Tibetans here say, they underestimated the hardship of starting anew, and even the benefits of living under Chinese rule.

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In 2003, Tsering Dolma, like many, sneaked over the mountains from the Tibet Autonomous Region with the help of a paid guide after friends in Lhasa, the Tibetan capital, told her Dharamsala was heaven on Earth, every tree weighed down by juicy peaches, her favorite fruit.

"After I got here, I kept thinking, 'There must be another India I'm missing,' " the waitress said. "Now I want to go back, but can't. I'm stuck."

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Though Tibetans worry that China is trying to weaken Tibetan culture — a claim Beijing denies — some believe their culture is also under attack in Dharamsala.

"Here we watch Indian television in Hindi or English, diluting our Tibetan," said Lobsang Rabsel, 38, a restaurant manager and former monk.

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"China has jobs; you can start a business without a lot of bureaucracy. You don't get Delhi belly [dysentery] all the time," said Golma, who makes $60 a month as a Dharamsala shopkeeper, compared with $300 to $400 a month in Lhasa.

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"Everything's better in China," said Dawa.

He paused for a minute. "I really miss my family. I'd like to go back if I ever get the chance."

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You don't need MONEY!

Dharamsala was heaven on Earth, every tree weighed down by juicy peaches.

What the...!?

Fooled by exiled Tibetan CIA agent in mainland. Such evil fanatics!

Stupid poor Tibetan Chinese!

They all are fellow Chinese too, we should save them!

 

[GeHAC]

I think I made my stance clear here:
China crackdown slows Tibet refugee crossings to freedom in India | Page 2

It was you who went ahead and tried advising India magnanimously. Gracious.

Didn't you see I typed "on the contrary"？I made that comment because of your media's prejudice and arrogance.
Yes,I dont really care about your internal affairs as you do.Let the social development of both region tells the truth.

 

[Kolaps]

any link?

Tibetan exiles in Dharamsala, India, settle in with disillusionment - Los Angeles Times

 

[magic-007]

India's newspaper and media like take a part of the whole . such as a chinese man died , they are just say china will occur to collapses.sometimes i only need to see a article title , can guess a article's thoughts

 

[Genesis]

Indian member's proud of this, though to be fair only the ones who want to troll.

While it is debatable how "bad" it is in Tibet, come on Indians you are becoming a bigger nation now sort of, you face protests everywhere now, you should know.

What is not debatable is Tibet's economic, and living standards relative to our neighbor to the West. There are problems too though. I'll leave this article that explores the good and the bad and the in betweens of Tibetan life.

China's Nomads Have A Foot In Two Very Different Worlds : Parallels : NPR

oh and their condo really look like that, cause Tibetan land isn't worth that much.

 

[Yogijaat]

Indian member's proud of this, though to be fair only the ones who want to troll.

but it's definitely shameful for you guys. Why tibetans are leaving prosperous and free china to live in a poor and measurable india?

 

[magic-007]

but it's definitely shameful for you guys. Why tibetans are leaving prosperous and free china to live in a poor and measurable india?

LOL. India's newspaper and media like take a part of the whole . such as a chinese man died , they are just say china will occur to collapses. sometimes i only need to see a INDIA article title , can guess its thoughts
sir

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

but it's definitely shameful for you guys. Why tibetans are leaving prosperous and free china to live in a poor and measurable india?

Because they want to taste India's truth freedom and Democracy until they experienced themself and witness the reality of living condition in India as post #38 from @Kolaps

 

[Yogijaat]

Because they want to taste India's truth freedom and Democracy until they experienced themself and witness the reality of living condition in India as post #38 from @Kolaps

how many of them returned?

 

[MarkovChain]

LOL. India's newspaper and media like take a part of the whole . such as a chinese man died , they are just say china will occur to collapses. sometimes i only need to see a INDIA article title , can guess its thoughts
sir

Yes, it's a massive conspiracy. The whole world is uniting to bring down glorious China. Also, why are Indian newspapers available in Chinese Tibet?

We have enough problems on our own. We don't want more people on our side to have as a headache. You would be better of looking at internal reasons why rather than trying to externalize it.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

how many of them returned?

I guess they really enjoy their life in India thanks to Indian's hospitality and why they want to return to China?

 

[Genesis]

but it's definitely shameful for you guys. Why tibetans are leaving prosperous and free china to live in a poor and measurable india?

did you not read what I posted? Grass is always greener on the other side of the mountain. If you want to talk shameful, there's not shortage of that in India is there.

They have some delusions on what India is, they kinda think India is America due to the stories. Read the story I posted, they lead a nomadic life, they have no skills, sometimes it is hard to support a family in a urban setting.

Though their second generation are educated, a lot of them go to post secondary, and they sometimes move to the mainland to pursue a career.

But it is what it is, if they feel it is better in India it's their choice.

Yes, it's a massive conspiracy. The whole world is uniting to bring down glorious China. Also, why are Indian newspapers available in Chinese Tibet?

We have enough problems on our own. We don't want more people on our side to have as a headache. You would be better of looking at internal reasons why rather than trying to externalize it.

Do you want me to say India better than China, I can say it if you want, no big deal to me, I'll let the world be the judge.

 

[Yogijaat]

I guess they really enjoy their life in India thanks to Indian's hospitality and why they want to return to China?

because of this

Because they want to taste India's truth freedom and Democracy until they experienced themself and witness the reality of living condition in India as post #38 from @Kolaps