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Official tallies of COVID-19 cases in China cannot be believed or compared to other countries, economist Derek Scissors said Tuesday.

"There's been no mass testing, which means the numbers should not compared to the United States, where we are now doing, late, mass testing," the chief economist at the China Beige Book said on CNBC's "Squawk Box."

Scissors' comments Tuesday came shortly after a Chinese health official said the country will begin reporting asymptomatic coronavirus cases in mainland China on Wednesday.

China had 1,541 asymptomatic coronavirus patients under observation as of Monday, according to an official from the country's National Health Commission.

Scissors, a resident scholar at the conservative think tank American Enterprise Institute, said the revelation that China is just now beginning to report asymptomatic cases, "more than two months after they applied a quarantine," is "a good sign of what the Chinese have been doing 'til now."

"Add to the fact that we know the [Chinese Communist] Party is not honest about anything that's politically sensitive," Scissors said.

U.S. officials including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo also have criticized China's lack of transparency around COVID-19 in the country.


Independent researchers also previously criticized China for changing the way it classified "confirmed cases."

"This kind of confusion breeds distrust," Eric Feigl-Ding, a global health economist at the Harvard Chan School of Public Health, told CNBC in February. "You should stick to a standard even if you have caveats."

China has recently been relaxing severe travel restrictions in Hubei province and the city of Wuhan, where the new coronavirus is believed to have originated in December. The lockdown of Wuhan, which began on Jan. 23, is set to be lifted on April 8.

For the last seven days, no new cases of COVID-19 have been reported in the region, according to Reuters.

Businesses have been reopening in Hubei province, and on Tuesday, China said its manufacturing activity expanded during March, following a dramatic contraction in February.

The world has turned to China for signs of hope and recovery as COVID-19 spreads across the globe, bringing economies to a near halt and sickening at least 800,000.

But Scissors said extreme skepticism must be applied to any data from China.

As of Tuesday morning, China has had 82,276 confirmed cases, including 67,801 in Hubei province, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. JHU's data, which is widely followed for global case numbers, relies on a variety of sources that includes the World Health Organization and local information.

Of the 3,309 reported deaths in China, Hubei has had 3,187 — or more than 95%.

"Cases in Hubei are nearly five times higher than outside Hubei province, which is where Wuhan is, even though the population outside Hubei is 22 times larger," Scissors said.

"So magically, although hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of people left Hubei, although there was no quarantine for at least a month, China doesn't have a COVID problem except in one province," Scissors said.

Scissors said mass testing and accurate reporting of cases is essential to respond to the pandemic, not only in China but in every country including the U.S.

He said the U.S. was slow to respond at first, but has since improved its testing capacity and thus its public-health response.

"You can't make public policy decisions unless you know where the cases are," he said. "You could imagine if we didn't have mass counting in New York, how would we deal with it. ... I think we're finally doing the right thing. We started very, very late."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/31/chi...-cant-be-compared-to-elsewhere-economist.html

China’s numbers are horses**t and the world is finally catching on.
 
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China had 1,541 asymptomatic coronavirus patients under observation as of Monday, according to an official from the country's National Health Commission.

China’s numbers are horses**t and the world is finally catching on.

It's not like asymptomatic patients make up a large fraction in other countries anyway. When even the majority of symptomatic patients get rejected for a test in the US and the UK, as well as in many other countries, what makes you think it's a common practice in these countries to allow someone with no symptoms to undergo a test?
 
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It's not like asymptomatic patients make up a large fraction in other countries anyway. When even the majority of symptomatic patients get rejected for a test in the US and the UK, as well as in many other countries, what makes you think it's a common practice in these countries to allow someone with no symptoms to undergo a test?
People who wrote this and believed it are pathetic, low IQ scams. While they cherry picking China's number, people in their country can't even get a test when they start coughing as fuk! You will never test for asymptomatic patients in countries such as US and UK!!!!

Brooklyn teacher denied coronavirus test three times now on life support

https://thegrio.com/2020/03/27/brooklyn-teacher-rana-zoe-mungin-coronavirus/
coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-trial-subjects-parents-denied-virus-test
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ubjects-parents-denied-virus-test/2876390001/
 
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Bullshit overdrive lying propaganda campaign, China publish the cases under suspected cases (Those who are tested positive but did not show symptoms) since day one. When you are tested positive without symptom in China you will be ask to self quarantine 14 days and monitored, if you develop symptoms you will then be counted as confirmed cases.

http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/news/TrackingtheEpidemic.htm
 
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People who wrote this and believed it are pathetic, low IQ scams. While they cherry picking China's number, people in their country can't even get a test when they start coughing as fuk! You will never test for asymptomatic patients in countries such as US and UK!!!!

Brooklyn teacher denied coronavirus test three times now on life support

https://thegrio.com/2020/03/27/brooklyn-teacher-rana-zoe-mungin-coronavirus/
coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-trial-subjects-parents-denied-virus-test
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ubjects-parents-denied-virus-test/2876390001/
We all know F-22 just know copy and past to made 5cent.
 
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I pretty much agree with what the Chinese government reported.

Because during the first Wuhan lockdown, there were less than 300 of known infected people.

But it turns out to be 70 thousand more.


The difference between China and others is in the fast response while the number is still low.

Imagine how much the number if you started to lock down when the known infected people are multiple times higher than 300?

The graphic is exponential, which means 900 is not 3x of 300, so you won't get the number of 70,000 x 3. It could be 70,000 x 3+, because it's exponential.


The problem is...

Coronavirus has been released to the wilderness and can't be taken back.

Like it or not, despite Wuhan effort, in the end, it's useless.

Coronavirus will keep coming back from aboard.

Herd Immunity is the only solution.

There's no way China is going to be locked down forever.


China just needs to choose the time when they officially apply Herd Immunity to the population.

Let as much as the population gets sick so they can build immunity.

Chinese government needs to start to shut up, so it won't create panic in society.
 
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